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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I test rode a new S1 back in 97 and it had me in a huge whille just by cranking the throttle to MOVE. It almost killed me I swear. My X1 didnt act like that at 955 miles unless off a slight hill.

I dont know. previous owner for sure damaged the O2 sensor with very high octane gas. My x1 pulls nice but just wondering if there was a huge diff. Of course the FI is a big one.
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Paw
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Power is up from the 97 year model.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The main difference that I am aware of, is the S1, has Lightning Heads, while the X1/S3 has the Thunderstorm heads. Not sure on the hp difference...

I think there might be a difference in cams.. but dont hold me to that.

Chase
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to mention, FI instead of carburation...
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Sportsman
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Low air pressure in the rear tire will make easier wheelies. You may have been running a flat tire since an X1 should eat a S1 power wise.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmmi_grad
My 96 S1 had the lightning motor in it and my 99 has the thunderbolt. The lightning motor makes power off idle where as the thunderbolt doesn't seem to start making power for another five to seven hundred rpm. Thats my experience with these two stock motors. I think it's the heads and cams that make the difference. Thought the thunderbolt motor makes more power the lightning is a better motor for sport touring.
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um, from what I understand, the 1996 S1 had a stock sportster motor in it like the S2's.
They went with the lightning heads in '97, and then to the thunderstorm heads in '98.

Info taken from here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=54544#POST54544
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weren't the S1's flywheels lighter than the S2's?

rt
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im sure my demo bike was a 97 lightning with heads. Ill never forget it.
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