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Motomadman
Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I inadvertently changed the transmission oil in my S1 using Harley 20w-50 oil. I Didn’t realize I had messed up ‘till after a few rides.

In looking through the archives looks like I should be running Mobil 1 15w50 motor and Mobil 1 75w90 gear oil in primary.

Did I do any damage by running the wrong oil?
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not likely just change it and change it sooner next time.
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Paw
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not play it safe and use the recommended Harley primary oil. No brainer. Thats all i have ever used in my tranny's and never had a problem.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You didn't mess up - that oil is perfectly fine for your transmission.
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Motomadman
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The shop manual calls for SPORT-TRANS FLUID, whatever that is. It doesn't give any alternatives or weight ranges to use.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you are under the impression that gear lube and motor oil are rated on the same scale for viscosity - they are not.

20w50 engine oil is approved for use in Sportster/Buell transmissions.
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Bookyoh
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moto:

I believe Harley now offers 3 options for use in the Sportster/Buell Primary and transmission:

Sport trans
Formula+
Syn3

I had been using Sport trans until they came out with Formula+. I switched last year to Formula+ because it works with my Superglide primary and transmission too. I can't say that I noticed any shift effort or feel difference between Sport trans and Formula+.

Mark
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Motomadman
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the Posts!!

I just got Formula+ at the dealer.

The parts guy said to flush out the old (20w/50 motor) oil as well, didn't suggest any products to use.

Looking at Pyroil Engine Flush - 'melts sludge and cleans engine' etc. Contains kerosene and other cleaning agents.

Since it's designed for a engine, I'm a bit leary of running it in my transmission.

What do you guys think about flushing the transmission? Any specific product suggestions?

Thanks again!!
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't need to flush your system. The HD OIL is fine to put in your primary
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Motomadman
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds GOOD! Thanks for the info!!
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

don't flush you dont want the solvents on the stator, or the clutch plates.
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Hodakaguy
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've always used Mobile synthetic 75-90W in my trans with great results. Gear oil and motor oil are rated different when it comes to viscosity. A 90W gear oil is about the same as a 30w motor oil on the viscosity index. If you go to the Amsoil site they recommend their 20-50w motor oil for the evo primary case in a sporty engine. Either will work fine. Don't worry about flushing, just drain and refill.

Hodakaguy
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