| Author | Message | ||
     Phishaholik |
Hi everybody, I'm new here and I need a little help. I just got my old 98 S1 back from a friend. I sold it to him 2 years ago and all he did was ride it 50 miles and then it sat for the rest of the time. I just put the battery kit in and then I changed the oil. There was almost no oil in the tank whatsoever. I ran some clean oil through it and then I changed the filter and filled the tank with two quarts of synth. I forgot to put the 4 oz. into the filter. The first time I ran the bike, the cap popped up and oil started to leak. I tried letting some oil out of it and started it again. After about a minute of idle, the oil cap flew about eight feet in the air and landed in the yard. I checked the oil level and seemed high again, so I let more oil out. The oil that came out had dark old oil mixed in with it. I started the bike and checked the oil again afterwards and it was high again. Whenever I pull the cap after shutting the engine down, I get a very loud pop from all the pressure. What am I doing wrong here? Did I just stupidly overfill the tank? I only put two quarts in. Any help would be much appreciated. I jonesing to ride so bad right now. I've already had to wait ten days after I got the back bike to get the stupid battery kit. Thanks Mike | ||
| Twowheeldream |
when you did the oil change the first time you probably didnt run the engine first. what happened after the bike sat for such a long time was the oil leaked down into the engine, or "wet sumped" which is why there was "almost no oil in the tank whatsoever" then you changed the filter and filled it. at this point there is probably almost an extra quart in there. the fix... run the bike to normal operating temp, drain the oil, take off the filter, drain the filter (since its new, i would reuse it) put a couple oz in the filter and put it back on, refill the take with 2 qts, bring it to operating temp again, and recheck and top off oil you should be good to go | ||
| Phishaholik |
Actually, when I first rode the bike, I took it down the street and back. I saw a bunch of foam at the top of the tank and thought I might have gotten water in the tank from when I washed off the oil cap. It had road grime and grit on it. So I dumped out all the new oil and refilled it again and put a new filter on. I didn't change the filter the first time because I couldn't find a wrench. I thought the oil was overflowing out of the oil tank because I overfilled it, not taking in to account all the oil that was already in the filter. My first post starts about here. Would driving it down the street and back be enough to get the oil out of the engine? Also, the filter the Harley dealership gave me was a lot smaller than the chrome one that was on it before. edit: I think that the oil going into the engine whilst sitting is the problem. Maybe I should dump a bunch of oil out and see how much the oil level rises after running the bike. It does rise everytime I start the bike. Sorry, long post. Mike (Message edited by phishaholik on July 19, 2006) | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
You over filled it. I wouldn't worry about it. Just drain out some of the oil and you're good to go. Also, you do get a bit of foam at the top of your oil. Once again it's all normal. Just be sure to check your oil after you ride. If you check it before, it might scare you. | ||
| Seth |
Hey Phish, There seems to be a problem with your profile... there's no picture of the S-1.   | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Phish....if it makes you feel any better, almost all of us "tubers" have done once (trust me, you only do it once  ) | ||
| Djkaplan |
"almost all of us "tubers" have done once (trust me, you only do it once)" It happened to me three times before I figured out why it was happening. The last time, it took me a while to find the oil cap. | ||
| Bomber |
Demonstration sport at the next olympics, I believe | ||
| Phishaholik |
Thanks a lot for the help guys and making me feel better. I drained some oil out of it today and the problem went away. I actually got to ride it for about five minutes before I had to start taking the wheels off to get new tires put on it. The Harley shop tried to mark the tires up $120 and then wanted $200 to put them on. I'm just bringing the rims to the honda shop. Mike | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
screw the Harley dealer, your right at the honda dealer your just another customer. | ||
| Tunes |
Checking your oil level after the engine is up-to-temp is really the only way to get an accurate reading. Buell's will wetsump at different rates so you're never quite sure if your down a little oil or it wetsumped. To eliminate the oil cap launch, I installed the screw-type oil cap from American Sport Bike. | ||
| Rocketman |
almost all of us "tubers" have done once (trust me, you only do it once).....if yer lucky! Ain't that the truth. Rocket | ||
| Road_thing |
Amazingly enough, I've never launched a cap. But I watched Jet Peek, the owner of the indy shop where I trade, take a face full of oil (thankfully not hot!) when he fired up my S2 for the first time after it came off the truck. I bought the bike off ebay from a USAF officer in North Carolina who was shipping out (at least that what we called it in the Navy--maybe AF guys "fly out") to the middle east. It had apparently sat for a while and the USAF guy topped it off with oil before shipping it, trying to make sure everything would be good when I got it. Long story short: new bike, battery's hot, oil showing on the stick, let's fire that mother up, vroom-vroom-kaSPLASH!!! It was funny. Guess ya hadda be there. It's a running joke now, every time I ride over to the shop, I ask Jet to check my oil. His response is always the same:  rt | ||
| Sloppy |
City Bike Magazine in California (SF?) wrote an article on their experience with a 2000 Buell and complained it had no oil in the tank. Their comment was that it had an oil consumption problemn. So they filled up the tank. After their test ride oil blewout onto the engine and then they complained that it leaked oil... Part of Buell's challenge is in education. | ||
| Sloppy |
City Bike Magazine in California (SF?) wrote an article on their experience with a 2000 Buell and complained it had no oil in the tank. Their comment was that it had an oil consumption problem. So they filled up the tank. After their test ride oil blewout onto the engine and then they complained that it leaked oil... Part of Buell's challenge is in education. | ||
| Drfuyutsuki |
I did some thing very similar earlier this month. Rookie mistake I changed the oil cold and then filled it to capacity. With the FL1A filter on my bike thats close to 3 quarts. My cap didn't fly off but when it did come off talk about some my volcano style oil. I dumped close to a quart on my garage floor before I got the cap back in place. So add me to the list of tuber owners that have done it. I just hope I dont do it again. Ride hard and ride safe, Fuy |
