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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i am going to swap cams on my 00 m2 cyclone i am trying to compile a list of all of the parts that i am going to need before hand, any one that has done the swap i would like the input, part numbers, links, ect... thank you guys alot!!!
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, we both have black 2k M2s...
I think I have everything I need, haven't done it yet, it's running too sweet to pull apart...

I ordered these from American Sport Bike (their part #'s in green):
Bronze oil pump drive gear 17126 (Buell part #26391-06)
O.P.D. woodruff key 17121 (Harley #11317)
Cam cover gasket 17119
Rocker box gasket set 5937
Exhaust gaskets 5931

I also have on hand:
Oil pump gasket 17118
Pinion gear locking tool 16083 (This is a Jim's tool)
Service Manual
Parts Catalog
Red and Blue Loctite
Anti-Seize
Copper Permatex
Motor oil
Grease
Baking pan to catch the oil
A half-fast dealer and 3 aftermarket shops nearby

You may need:
Pushrod seals upper (4) 11190
Pushrod seals lower (4) 17944-89
(Harley part #'s)
If you haven't upgraded your exhaust hanger to the Y bracket, you might want to do it at this point, part # 17036 from American Sport Bike. This also has a Harley part #, it's an -01.

I went with SE "bolt-in" cams from Nallin/NRHS. Here is a link to their camshafts page, with a write-up on the SE cams. Just scroll down to "Buell camshafts." Whatever cams you get, make sure they're the right year for the bike, with the right pitch on the teeth.

I may be forgetting something, not sure.

Here is a link to the Nightrider site, they have cam specs on different brands for comparison. They also had a link to installation instructions.

Here is a link to the Andrews site, they list the specs of their cams, along with installation instructions in .PDF format.

What cams you going with?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a small torque wrench on hand for the cam cover and rocker boxes. I like using a butterfly on the cover bolts, dialed down way light, for speed. A cordless drill also works if you don't have air, in which case you can cut the end of an allen wrench and stick in the chuck. I hear you can get by removing only the rear rocker box. If you haven't updated your gaskets you may as well do both. I also hear you shouldn't use a magnet to pull the pushrods if you're not removing the tubes. Sanchez has a few more cam change tips in this thread.

Good luck. You should post some pics and intel when you do the job.
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Sanchez
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, that about covers it. Now is also a great opportunity to switch over to some XB rocker box covers if you don't already have them.
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is the difference in the xb covers?
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Tripp
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they have pcv valves in the top and drain away from the air filter - cleans up the carb plumbing, this is a fine mod and is'nt too labor intensive. costs about a c-note. a fella here named lafayette has a way of doing it for less money and it's just as effective, try the search feature it works well!
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to mention it changes the 2 piece upper into a 1 piece cover,less places to leak and easier to assemble.The whole thing cost me about 105.00 about 2 years ago.Then i sold the old pieces on eBay to get some cash back.Win-win all the way.
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what year XB do i ask for at the HD dealer or does it not matter?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It shouldn't matter.
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Tripp
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/34533.html?1147671769

(Message edited by tripp on July 08, 2006)
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

estimate, how much is a cam swap parts list going to set me back, assuming i go by the above parts list???
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cams were 298 shipped.

Rest of the parts were about 100, another 20 for the tool.

There are a lot of posts in the KV on worn cam lobes and oil pump drive gears on M2s. So you can think of it as insurance as well as performance.
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