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Maxbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking for options for my 02 M2 stock header. Have a D&D slip on and am happy with it. However stock header looks rough. Thought about wrapping it. How hard is it? Whats the cost? Does it have to be removed? Not much $$ hear looking for best cost effective way to improve. THANKS
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it is about 50 bucks or so for a roll a header wrap...depending on where you go.

Remove it, it will make the process MUCH easier...

They also have special paints/dyes for the header wrap, so you could make it black, or blue...etc..

Anyway, if you decide to doi that, for about a week, BLAST the snot outta the exhuast studs with PB blaster..dotn have to stop riding it, in fact, the heat will help it penetrate...

Anyway, do that, get soem new exhuast gaskets(less than 8 bucks), and call it good..

Chase
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Ceejay
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Chase-Summit has the rolls for about 50 bucks 2inch 50 ft. black ifnyawant. I then painted mine, and wrapped with piano wire just cuase and then slapped back on. looks better to me, and is nicer to my right leg...
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wrapped mine on the bike, not that hard on an M2. Just swing rear heat shield out of the way.........Charlie
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Essthreetee
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone have any pics of their exhaust all wrapped up??? THis is something I may look into...I like my set up, just don't like the right leg cooker...$50 is about my limit (re painting our house...) So if'n you could, post em up or send em to me so I can decide...

Thanks

jason
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just swing rear heat shield out of the way..

He has a newer M2...same pipe as the X1/S3, it goes UNDER the frame at the rear pipe...


Chase}
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The newer, snakey M2 pipe is much harder to wrap than the older style, too.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the same pipe 2000 M2. I felt like it was easier than pulling the exhaust. I wrapped the first 6 " on rear pipe out where I could reach it loose then slid it up, clamped it, then rotated it working down from the head. It's a little slow right there but the rest goes pretty quick............Charlie
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did it to my Force, so it was much easier to pull it in my opinion, plus I wanted to get it nice and tight, so after putting some inner tubes in my vice I clamped her down...here's a pic...well maybe not I don't have one yet, but I'll try to get one this weekend...
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will be better to take the pipe off. You shoudl wet the wrap, roll it on TIGHT, using clamps to hold it in place..

Plus, if you want to color it, instead of leaving it the yllowish/beige/offwhite color..

then, you put it back on, fir teh bike, let it warm up, and run it, run it hard, and on the highway, to get the exhuast HOT, it will dry the wrap completely, and it will shrink a bit, adn make it nice and tight..

When you do that, IT will stink..it will probably smoke a little as well, depepnding on the brand of wrap...

It has an added benifit of keeping your leg cool..and covering your pipes blemishes..

Keeping the heat in the pipe, helps it stay hot, thus increasing exhuast velocity, adn scavenging...though, with the stock M2 cams, I dont know how much of a benefit that is...

Chase
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Hippyjoe
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought about wrapping the frankenpipe I built for my FXR. However, I hear the wrap holds in heat, however minor. It still holds in heat. Also, it will deteriorate over time. May take a long time, but it will, eventually. Finally, everyone on the "horse magazine chopper bandwagon" has heat-wrapped pipes. Present company excluded, of course.

If you're going to pull the pipe anyway, you might like hi-heat powdercoating. If there is a powdercoating shop near you. I took my FXR pipe there and the results are excellent. I got a nice, flat silver that matches the bike and sets the pipe off. There are color options. After 2 months it's fine, no damage or change in the texture. Also if something gets on it, oil, grease, whatever, it just wipes clean, even hot.

It cost 200 bucks but to me it's worth it. If I ever want to spruce up the pipe on my M2 I'll take it to powder. I also like supporting local business.

My .02
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Drwend1
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MAX

I had good luck with having my header metallic ceramic coated at Jet Hot. They coated the header inside and out for $100.00 plus shipping. Looks good, will not blue and helps keeps the heat off my leg.

DRW
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Drwend1
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Max

Sorry, I forgot to note that the price I paid was for a new header. I believe they charge a little more for used headers because they media blast it before applying the ceramic coating.

DRW
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Bill00
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's my header wrapped with the 1" 50' roll from Summit Racing. I painted it with the silicone black paint also.


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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, here's a dumb question...why not just ORDER the black wrap??? I looked on summitracing.com and there was about 5 or 6 different wraps all under $50 even the black...

Is the 1" easier to wrap than the 2"...

As for the Jet Hot coatings, is the standard "Sterling" what I should be looking at?? says it is good to 1300*...
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Bill00
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well actually, I used the black wrap, but it's more of a charcoal gray. From what I understand the paint helps seal the wrap from getting water soaked and it probably keeps the little strings from unraveling.
I would think the 1" is easier to wrap because of the tight bends in the pipes, but I've never tried 2". It will take the hole 50' roll to do the header.
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Drwend1
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used the "Sterling". I have had it for two seasons with no problems so far. Though what Bill00 did is a good look.

DRW
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Essthreetee
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DRW...do you have any pics of the sterling??? I got a quote of $120 + S & H for sterling on the header...I am trying to decide which way to go...sterling or wrap...

Thanks.

Jason
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Drwend1
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jason

Sorry no pics of my M2 but if you do a search of the this site using ceramic header you will find photos of a number of bikes with the jethot coating.

DRW
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Sanchez
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Here's my header wrapped with the 1" 50' roll from Summit Racing.

That looks sharp. Are the pipes wrapped individually all the way down to the collector? Or just to the point where the tape begins to cover both?
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Bill00
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a metal tab welded to both pipes a couple inches below were I started wrapping both pipes. I wrapped the rear pipe down to that tab, then wrapped the front pipe down to the end of the collector.
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