| Author | Message | ||
     Sanchez |
Well, the Leakin' Nugget made it a whole 3 days before breaking down again. Now it's leaking engine oil pretty badly out the right side. I can't tell yet where it's coming from because everything under the gearcase cover has oil all over it. Oil's getting on the belt and being flung around, and the shock is thickly coated. The leak slows to a stop after I shut the engine off.    Are Cyclones programmed to self destruct after 8,000 miles?? Within the past month or so, I've had a bad wheel bearing, a primary cover gasket failure, a broken detent retainer clip, and now this. | ||
| Tres_wright |
Oh my gosh!!! I'm glad you didn't take a hard right hand sweeper while that was going on, you probably would have a lot more than an oil leak to fix (and possibly would be laid up in a hospital too). Good luck!! | ||
| Crux |
I had almost the same thing on the other side...my primary gasket blew and I nearly dumped it going around a hairpin...thank god there was an embankment that I slid into that stood me right up. My suggestion would be to clean her up with some Westley's tire white, let it dry, then start it up and let her run to see where the leak is coming from. Then go from there. | ||
| Smoke |
my s1 had similar symptoms that turned out to be a pinched or slightly misaligned cam cover gasket. kept cleaning and looking and until i took the pulley cover off and rode to the store (3miles)i couldn't tell where it was coming from. make sure you put the metal swingarm support back on before you ride it. good luck, tim | ||
| Whodom |
I'd also look carefully at the return hoses near the oil pump for a cut. Hugh | ||
| Tsispyder |
id call that an oilfall not a leak | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
Look and see if you have any oil laying in behind the rear cyl. on top of the trans.(there is a wire and rubber grommet that goes into the primary that will leak alittle on most bikes) But will leak a lot if over filled and /or vent gets stopped up.It will run off onto your front sprocket. Also make sure counter shaft seal is not leaking.(overly tight belt or load) These two leaks might be hard to find with bike on side stand.Will show up with bike leaning to the right side quicker.......Good luck...Charlie PS Check all of your breather lines(engine and trans.)have found some trans. lines (breather) kinked near swingarm pivot. | ||
| Djkaplan |
It's hard to tell from a pic, but have you determined if it's engine oil or primary oil that's leaking? Looks like engine oil. You can't always tell from color, but you can with smell (but don't taste it). | ||
| Denfromphilly |
The leak on the exhaust like that seems to me more indicative of primary overflow tube than oil pump/oil line. It could be a line up above on the way to or near the oil tank. Can you take off the derby cover and see what the oil level is? The crank seal behind the stator can fail and leak oil into the primary that comes out the vent tube. Or you could be lucky and have a leaky oil line. Good Luck! Den | ||
| Bluelightning |
The leak on the exhaust like that seems to me more indicative of primary overflow tube than oil pump/oil line Den, I guess you meant shock??? Sanchez, by looking at the pics, it almost looks like you are leaking from the oil pump itself. If it were the cam cover gasket, I would think you would see a more uniform leak on the shock, but the pic only shows from about half way back. So I would suspect it is either the pump gasket or one of the lines going is. First, I would try to clean the snot out of that area with a good degreaser then take it for a short spin and see if you can try to locate it's origin. Keep us posted as to your progress... (Message edited by bluelightning on May 26, 2006) Cagers on cells deserve a good throttle rev!!! | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Check your oil return line. It looks like the oil is coming from the top of the pump where the return line attaches. It looks like engine oil, too dirty for primary. Looks like my M2 when the oil filter backed off. Brad | ||
| Djkaplan |
Figure out if it's primary or engine oil before you check anything. You eliminate half the possibilities if you determine this first. | ||
| Bomber |
clean bike go to drug store get arasol athlete's foot powder (Blake recommends Cruex, but hey, he's in Texas) spray potential leaking areas with aforementioned powder ride 2 miles check the powder will help you locate the leak It is better to be shot from a gun than squeezed from a tube -- HSThompson | ||
| Crux |
yeah, powder works well...I used a deodorant spray powder a few times.. | ||
| Sanchez |
Thanks for the good suggestions, guys. It's definitely engine oil. The primary fluid level looks good, and it's only 3 days old anyway, so it isn't nearly that black. Foot powder?? Now that's a new one on me! I'll give that a shot. I'm going to clean it up and let it idle for a while to see if I can reproduce the leak while stationary. The belt slinging oil all over the place is complicating the issue. Fortunately for my sanity, I'm leaving the country tomorrow on vacation for a week + 2 days, so it may be a while before I can follow up. | ||
| Denfromphilly |
Den, I guess you meant shock??? That's what the shock looks like??? | ||
| Sanchez |
Bomber, you are a genius. I pressure washed the area with a can of carb cleaner then hosed it down and blew it dry with a leaf blower. After a liberal coating of Curex, I started it up and let it idle for a few minutes. Any of you who guessed cam cover gasket get 10 bonus points (don't spend them all in one place). Bluzm2, you were pretty close. It's dripping down the back of the gearcase and onto the top of the oil pump. | ||
| Pressureangle |
I've seen a few loose oil pumps, too. Be sure to check the torque on the pump bolts. | ||
| Sanchez |
••••, I had no idea this was going to be so complicated. It looked like I could just take off the headers and remove the cover bolts, but I was very wrong. | ||
| Denfromphilly |
While you are in the cam cover you may want to consider replacing the oil pump drive gear. It's a bit more work but your at least 1/2 way there and can fix a potential time bomb. | ||
| Mikej |
Yep, if you're taking off the cam cover it does well to also remove the rocker covers and loosen the rockers up a bit. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Since you are going to have it off anyway, any thoughts about trimming the cam-cover? Not sure if I want to do that or not. | ||
| Sanchez |
> any thoughts about trimming the cam-cover? Got some pictures? I suspect I don't have the tools to do it right, and it would have to look awfully cool to be worth paying someone. | ||
| Djkaplan |
It's suppose to be easy and fun for the whole family... http://www.bikernet.com/garage/sturgisbuell2001-2.asp I figured I'd let you try it before I did, just in case it really is a nightmare. | ||
| Sanchez |
> I figured I'd let you try it before I did, just in case it really is a nightmare. How generous of you. (; Nah, I don't think that mod's really for me. It occurs to me though that I'll be half way to a cam swap. Anyone have any thoughts? I don't plan on replacing the carb or doing any head work, so I don't know if new cams would really be worth the cost or effort. | ||
| Patrickh |
uh-oh, thats how it starts. while I have the cover off... | ||
| Denfromphilly |
that's what I was thinking, my though process goes something like "well I'm this far, just 9 more bolts and I can change that" and when I get there it's "hmm, if I just get this tool and do that I am good for 100,000 miles".... An obsession fer sher... | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
Since you have the cam cover off,a set of X1 cams will give that clone some life (and they are bolt-ins, no other needed). We did a friends cover with a band saw, then cleaned it up with some filing(looks really trick). Just be careful not to cut too high , there is a blind oil hole near the bottom, about halfway front to rear. If you cut to much you open that passage up and then you have to tap it and plug it. Don't ask me how I know this, we didn't tell him. | ||
| Sanchez |
Makin' progress ...   Charlie, I think you're onto something. I got the same advice from NRHS. They recommended Andrew N4 cams, which they say are the same as the X1's. They say I'll pick up around 10 hp on the top end. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Why not just get X1 cams? X1 cams really are the same as X1 cams. Is there a cost advantage? |
