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Buellinator
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Help!
I have a new (yes brand new) 2002 M2 Cyclone that I am breaking in. It's fitted with a full Buell race kit and pulls like a trooper. The only problem that I'm having has to do with the carb. At a steady speed of 2500-3500 rpm it seems to "hiccup" causing a miss. If I roll on the throttle, the condition goes away. I would really like to get this figured out because other than this problem, the bike runs flawlessly. Thanks in advance to all who reply.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it has the race kit, it will have to be rejetted to run right.
Be careful, you might be running it lean.

(lean=hot hot=bad)
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Jimincalif
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, it REALLY sounds too lean. Recommend STRONGLY that you re-jet both midrange and main jets bigger.

What I would do at this point is switch to a Mikuni HS42 carb - it's easier to tune and works way better without an air chamber in front of it, which we all tend to ditch at the first opportunity on tubers : ).

If you keep running it like it is you can burn a hole in a piston.
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Rerc
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the low speed jet, it should be at least a "45".

DC.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on my 1998 S3 low speed jet 45 main 380
with race kit also you have to drill out
a plug for the air mixture screw
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Blake
Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Main jet should be fine as evidenced by how your bike is running and much experience.

Up the slow speed jet to #45 and adjust idle mixture screw to optimize idle. See service manual for more details.

I think Dennis meant to say "180" main jet. Your M2 should have a 190 main jet stock I believe.
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Sandblast
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, please verify that you are running the "new" 10R12 sparkplugs, the old ones were too hot. This is important.
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Sandblast
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummm, guys, did the race kit change the plugs?
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Buellinator
Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks to all who replied.
I took the bike to my tuner today for some dyno time.
After 4 runs, he installed a 20 thou shim under the needle, drilled the slide to 102 thou and installed a "cap" on the tapered part of the needle to eliminate some of the raw gas that was being sprayed in the carb at low speed. I should add that he races an 88 cubic inch X1 that makes 125hp at the rear wheel. Anyway, the bike now makes 80hp and 79ft/lbs of torque. This is 1hp and 4 ft/lbs better than when we started. Best of all, it now runs great! No hiccups, farting or spitting from the carb. Thanks again to everyone.
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