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Buellgler
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is at the end of it's life...bought the bike in May w/ 1281 miles, now have about 5k on it. Going to get Metzler Sportec M1's f/r...will a 180 be too big? ie, how will it change the handling? improve or ruin? thanks...
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I woudn't bother up-sizing. The only actual problem I know of is that a 180 will rub the hugger but you don't have yours.

If you get a tire that is too wide for your rim, it will deform the carcase.
That's why I suggest you not screw around...
I mean, you already know 170 works, right? ; )
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Patrickh
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, the wheels are matched to the tire size. if you go to a 180 rear the profile will have to deform a little to fit the wheel. putting 180 on will look wider but will make the bike turn a little more sluggishly.

i actually downsized the stock 190 rear on my TL1000 to a 180 and the bike was decidedly quicker turning.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only actual problem I know of is that a 180 will rub the hugger but you don't have yours.


My 190 never touched the hugger...BUT, turn in was sluggish...plus, it "cold blisters" easily

Chase}
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Koz5150
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I moved from a 170 to a 180 on a PM rim (5.5" wide as opposed to the 5 in wide stock rim) and it made a difference in turning. I will be going back to a 170 as soon as this set wears out. Check my profile, it should be long...
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Buellgler
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks all, I wasn't really going just for the look of a larger tire...after reading many articles & opinions on tires and sizing my thinking was that a sticky, larger tire would hold a line better thru corners as there would be a larger contact patch. But, my concern was bike response in the event I needed to make quick corrections, say on a surprise dbl. apex.

Having come from a mx background (this is my first street bike) I don't really have a clue. Moreover, I've been flirting with the idea of selling the bike and getting an '06 XBss. But I don't know. The rain is making me stir crazy and I tend to sell/buy lotsa stuff when I'm bored. I've not had any problems with the 170, and I could prolly squeeze another 800 or so miles out of my current rubber, but they're almost 7 years old. I figure now is the time to get everything buttoned up for next season.
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AAAAH! 7 year old rubber!?!? Change it imediately! Please! Man, that rubber must be hard and slippery by now! Get the sportec in the right sizes, 120/70 front, and 170/60 rear, and you will be AMAZED by the improvement! And your bike will be a heck of a lot safer, too! Run the tire pressure a bit higher in the metz, around 35-6 front, 39-41 rear, these tires like more air than those old Dunlops,and they wear a LOT longer, more than 2x the life of a 207 on my tuber.
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has your bike had the shock recall done? I can't tell for sure from your pic, but you may have the old shock that was recalled, I'm not sure about the '99 X-1s, you should defimitely contact Buell about this if you are not sure.
Happy riding!
Voraciously waiting for spring,
Ray
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Buellgler
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7 years! I know it's pretty terrible...the guy I bought the bike from was the original owner and rarely rode it on account of his other 6! other bikes...the rubber was virtually new when I got it and I just figured I'd ride it for the summer and then get some new stuff. All things considered the tires actually worked out pretty well, but now I'm ready for some good stuff.

As far as the recalls, Buell confirmed that they've all been done (except #827, but I have the parts for that), I got the service records from the dealership that did the work, but they wouldn't finish the last one for me 'cause they're no longer a Buell shop...the nearest one is inconveniently located 90 minutes north and I've not heard good things about them. Personally, I'd rather pay for professional work than screw something up myself so I've been going to this custom chopper shop in town, way cool people and a few of them are Buell riders too.
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Krusty
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> [ I'm on my 2nd 180 on my X1. Bike a bit slower in direction changes but still good for me. Main problem is that I had no chicken strip on the 170, but have 5mm on each side of the 180. Looks better, but if you don't like coming 2nd against another Buell, keep the 170. ]
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