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Milar
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got my new Fuell yesterday. In a piece about the Lightening Long Eric says it has similar ergo's to an M2 or tube Lightening. But with better handling.

For those of you who have ridden, or own, a new Long, what are the differences between it and your tuber?

M
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Ftd
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I own a X1 and have demo'd a SS. They are very similar ergo wise but the SS definitely handled better. I'd say that the stock SS had the same power as my X1 with a pipe, forcewinder and race ECM. I liked the SS a lot and considered it as a replacement for my X1 but I am getting a Ulysses instead through Daves's Fly-n-Buy deal (and keeping the x1).

Frank
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

see now i didn't see that. I am glad you posted this.. maybe the SS is a good idea for a replacement... DANG YOU BUELL!!! DANG YOU!!!!
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Essthreetee
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny this is posted...my wife was talking about getting me a new bike. The only one I was halfway considering was the long. Only problem is I love the bags on my S3T as well as the look...besides I would HATE to get rid of her (the S3 not the wife).
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well now i want to see a 12Ss up close next to a 12R... just to compare.. and ride.. cause i was thinking that the ULY is not me at all..... but i have been riding a Lighting for 4 years why not continue
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed that the wheelbase and steering angle is simmilar to my X1.
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Chevysolid
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK......
Dumb question....
Which bikes are we comparing?

Not familar with the "long"

(Message edited by chevysolid on November 10, 2005)
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB12Ss is the "long" version of the XB12S...
It has a longer frame/swingarm/ etc... for taller riders..

LIKE ME!!


this is the XB12Ss
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Dana P.
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blackbelt,Like I said in your other thread you had going the long is got your name written on it.I haven't ridden one but I have seen and sat on one and it has the most comfortable seat.You wouldn't believe it.Cochise has one he'd be a good one to ask.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While we are on this subject does anyone wana comment about the article or lay down : ) about the LONG in the new issue of FUELL?????????????
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i shall ask him... danka shein Dana, cause i am just friggin torn here.. of course i have to get rid of my X1, but then it is free game pal..

I have ridden a XB9s, and i felt like a monkey boinking a football, then i rode the 12R and i liked.... so i will have to try the Ss just to see, cause 4 years of riding a very similar riding style would be grand. What do you think color wise... NOT RED THOUGH! i have a white one now so black would be the other spectrum, although the Blue would be good to use as a Michigan Bike.. MAZE AND BLUE BABY!

ok that sounded like my father.. watch all this and i find i hate this one too and i end up getting the R.. lol
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Chevysolid
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for clarifying
MmmI...you ever get towards Ohio way this spring let me know... only an Hour or less from Ft. Wayne
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Milar
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I pulled out some old literature and compared specs for a 2001 Lightening vs an XB12Ss.


Wheel Base: X1 55" 12Ss 54"
Dry Weight: X1 440 12Ss 400
HP: X1 101 12Ss 103
Fuel tank: X1 4.2 12Ss 4.4

Pretty close,

M
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh and the steering angle specs:

M2 24.5 degrees
X1 23 degrees
XB12s 21 degrees
XB12Ss 23.5/22 degrees

I have no idea why there are two angles listed there.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are front end rake angles. The two numbers for the XB12Ss are angles for steering head axis and fork angles. They are offset/different. : ) Wierd huh.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xb12Ss --- none on the used market so 10,000
X1 low miles with pipes and other goodies 5-6,000

I'll keep the 5g's and not worry about handling!

But once Buell gets smarts and makes an XB/S3 version--- that might tempt me into getting a new XB.
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Tripp
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone know what the two angles equal out to?
do you average them?
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Blackbelt
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well I took one out for a ride this weekend... a XB12Ss that is.. and WOW what a nice bike... It is true, it is the same feel of my X1, but handling is much more precises, and the seat is TONS!!! more comfy. DAVE this is what i will get when i sell the X1... Just FYI, cause i took a 12R out and it wasn't as comfy. So blue or Black XB12Ss please.. danka shein
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