| Author | Message | ||
     Ltwt29 |
first I'll tell you what I did then I'm open for sugg. I removed my stock shock and front mount then replaced with a penske and buell race only front mount. having to remove exhaust to do it.then I was going to try it out and started fine, went to put it in gear and it died, so I removed and jumped out the kick stand sw. and still dies when I go to put it in gear.this is on a 2001 x1, and it worked fine befor this.how many saftey sw.s are on it bescides the clutch sw. and stand sw.? | ||
| Oldog |
neutral switch, and diodes | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
...or the kickstand switch. Perhaps he "disrespected" the kickstand switch while he was under there? | ||
| Easy_rider |
I'm thinking the wires got pinched and the open is before the switch....or vibration opened up jumper. I keep seeing the clutch switch blamed for dying/sputtering. Previous assembly error has taught me that the clutch switch only affects your ability to start in gear and that's it. (It also taught me that the clutch connectors and front brake connectors will cross-connect) | ||
| 99x1 |
Attached is a diagram of the interlock circuit (the diodes are a one way path, this stops the neutral lamp from coming on when the clutch or side stand switch is closed). Since it starts in neutral, but quits going into gear - with the sidestand up - the sidestand switch must be open? (and your clutch switch doesn't work)  | ||
| Ltwt29 |
thanks I ordered a service book last night, it should help me some. | ||
| Easy_rider |
Cool schematic. It's nice to see what's going on. I disagree with the analysis, though. Neutral switch gives you a neutral light, no matter what else is going on. Start relay will allow a start if the clutch is pulled in or if the bike is in neutral. Ignition relay will allow the bike to run if sidestand switch is up or the clutch switch is in or if the bike is in neutral. | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
LUBE up those kickstand switchs and they will work correctly AGAIN. | ||
| 99x1 |
"I disagree with the analysis, though. <snip> Ignition relay will allow the bike to run if sidestand switch is up or the clutch switch is in or if the bike is in neutral." Since the bike only runs in neutral, your analysis seems the same as mine? (Both the sidestand switch and clutch switch are faulty). | ||
| Easy_rider |
'99 Sorry, I didn't read all the way back to your first post. I was focusing on "stops the neutral lamp from coming on". There I disagree. You are correct in that both switches are candidates for being faulty. Attempting to start the bike while in gear and with the clutch pulled in will determine whether or not clutch switch is good. | ||
| Bake |
Why does it look like the kill switch cancels the neutral light? | ||
| Easy_rider |
From my unplanned experiment: I swapped out my fairing frame. I reconnected the wires at dusk and didn't notice that that two sets of connectors were similar (and not idiot-proof). When I went to start it the next morning I panicked when it didn't start. I put it in neutral and it started fine. Went to work without a hitch. I figured that I just didn't get the connector tight and adapted to starting in neutral through the weekend (yeah, I should make it a habit anyway). A riding buddy pointed out that my brake light came on whenever I switched gears. Further poking showed that the brake light came on with the rear brake or the clutch engaged. And guess what...the bike would start in gear with the front brake lever pulled in. No brake light with the front lever??? Fixed it that night! | ||
| Easy_rider |
"Why does it look like the kill switch cancels the neutral light?" Shouldn't. The light gets 12V no matter what position the kill switch is in. | ||
| Raceautobody |
Check this http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/Marriott/x1/brokenground.jpg Al | ||
| Easy_rider |
Nice site Al!! | ||
| Ltwt29 |
ok with the clutch pulled in and in gear it wont start. | ||
| 99x1 |
"ok with the clutch pulled in and in gear it wont start." Your clutch switch must be faulty (not uncommon), pull the connector off the switch below the clutch lever, (there is a small locking tab on connector) and put a jumper (a paper clip) between the two connections in the connector. The bike should now start and run. Your orginal jumpering of the sidestand switch must also be faulty? | ||
| Ltwt29 |
thanks for everyones input it was the clutch sw. I jumped it out right at the fuse box area a wire must be broken or loose somewhere. |
