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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm studying violin again after a good 37 year hiatus...it helps my motorcycling immensely...
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Nitsebes
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

trampus violinus
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tramp

Mee too but it hasnt been so long for me, lol.

Dear everyone...i woke up this am to find myself in a very distressing predicament. I have a full blown case of "the fever". Seems that i have lost interest in all else except motorcycles named after meteorological disturbances...

why did it have to happen to me?

No more house work , no more lawn work , no more anything. Spare money goes for bike, addredlin rushs can scare your friends. Its a very sick thing. good luck!
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Silas_clone
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, so, i loosened up the belt[not scary loose, more like fraidy-cat loose] but looser...
so, should the belt stay on the outboard side of the wheel pully when rotated normally? it never centers and goes to the inboard side when rotated backwards...Lou at Sheltons put real doubts in my mind that i should not be tackling this job...he didn't like the scaryloose description...
this little scooter is light, the pegs easily handled the jack stand routine [thanks tramp]
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask Lou at Sheltons how many 5th gear drive assemblies he has replaced, and what caused them to fail.

Note "scary loose" is for tubers, not for XB's. The XB's can run scary tight : )
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what reep said!
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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this little scooter is light, the pegs easily handled the jack stand routine [thanks tramp]"

de nada, Silas. advice is free

-trampus violinus
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, now the best way to make sure that the belt is true...this belt stuff is a pain.
and how critical if it is off a mm or two?
I also realize that my bottom guard is missing, conventional wisdom?
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

btw, that ping is a low speed cough when i roll it on...typical CV characteristic?
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pings and coughs are very, very different.
zany as this may sound, run some octane boost through that pup. CV carbs are efficient and smooth-operating mechanisms. should be no attendant noises with them. does the carb POP on decel?
as to your belt, don't worry, they usually show a bias, esp. at low-no rotary load.
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

belt tracking -- measure from the rear axle to an easily replcated place on the frame (like the hole the rear iso bols live in) the measurements should be the same

conversely, the manual, I believe, advises to measure from the trailing edge of the opening the axle adjuster lives in to the leading edge of the adjustor (I know, a pic would make this much easier)

I've done both measurements -- axle to iso bolt is a lil more accurate, I believe, and the belt did not track in the center of the pulley when the whole thing was square, but did what your's does, that is, shifted to the outboard side of the rear pulley when moving forward -- production tolerances being what they are, this is not surpirsing, as it would take a lot to make the belt run on one side of the other

so long as the belt ain't tryin to climb off the pulley in either direction, enjoy the affliction, and bang on the keyboard
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"pup"...thas the problem, it's still in the "new puppy" stage.

I didn't start enjoying my ironhead until i realized just how durable and resilient it was...and that stuff like setting points and timing was not the same as putting a man on the moon...

still, i hate breaking stuff that is working as good as it's gonna [like, ironheads work as good as they are gonna, period, no sense obsessing, unless you really are trying to make them into something they are not]

Everytime i ride the 'clone, i get to know her just a little more. Sheza tuff little puppy.

Anyone got a lower belt guard? I already ordered the shift linkage and will get the y hanger...does the V&H muff fit the y hanger?

am i being like the "we" channel?
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't run a lower gaurd at all. 12,000 miles no problems

(Message edited by koz5150 on August 01, 2005)
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no lower guard on my sled...actually, no guard at all for awhile, now.
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Denfromphilly
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The V&H fits my Y hanger but the V&H is a notoriously unreliable system. Mine has broken a bunch of times been rewelded twice in 6 months, bolts come loose, tear out, wykedflesh here had a front mount go and it pogoed his bike and him, damn near killed the guy at highway speeds. Get a Drummer or D&D, Pinto muffler, anything but a V&H imho.... V&H does run good and sound nice.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talked with Al @ American Sport Bike. V&H repack coming along with Y front hanger.

Got to ride yesterday with "fraidy-cat loose belt" [Al concurs w/ conventional wisdom of belt looseness] Funny, it seems that the bike shifts better?
I will figure out a tool to measure from swingarm bolt to axle bolt, but fer now, factory method for proper axle alignment will do.

Put in some octane booster but couldn't test ride long enuff to hear anything [i had to take the fam out to dinner]

Also, about ordering muffler re-pack for the V&H...i don't mind repacking when the time comes, but am not excited about the possibility of the unit fragging and perhaps doing so when in use...?

My take from reading the posts here and @KV is that there seems to be only one reason to go from stock muff to aftermarket..."it sounds cool"
[a fine and logical reason, to be sure]

Soooo, what is the best muffler for my setup? ['99 M2 w/cf airfilter]
I don't really care about how cool it sounds [been there, done that] just don't want to be killed by my own muffler!!! [imagine the eulogy? "he met his match, a less than reliable exhaust system"]

}The posts about using aftermaket auto exhausts appeals to the "mad max" in me and the post about using a "big rig" diesel exhaust muffler clamp is right up my alley! I would think a sturdy strap hanger to be the way to go in any application...?
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the chatter about cans 'ragging' is overstated. when they're attached correctly, they're fine. mine has never even come close to 'ejecting' or 'fragging'. of course, being that i change my trans fluid frequently, and i still remove my muffler to do it(i know, i know- i could bang a dent in my can and enable leaving it intact when i do fluids)
i am periodically retorqing my exhaust hardware.
oh, yeah- your scoot should shift better with the loose belt.
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

actually, you can improve the performance of the old nail with a good can -- worth a few ponies, as well as smoothing out the power curve (minimizing the dip in the midrange)

note bene, dip refers to a lessening in power production, and is not aimed at th rider/mechanic

also, the aftermarket can are lighter, which is worth a little on the road, and a great deal while racing benches

as tramp sez, a well attached muffler just don't fall off -- most of the horror stories you hear are from home made cans/mounting schemes -- not minimizing the pain/suffering these folks have undergone, but if you mount darned near any aftermarket can well (as per instructions), you'll have no trouble --

all the available aftermarket can are pretty well engineered -- the first generation V&H self-detructed pertty regularly with the original front mount -- second gen V&H, use the Y mount, are reportedly better -- likewise, first gen Wileyco with the strap (first gen) mount are iffy -- first gen C/F Wileyco with the y mount are fine

there endth my direct experience --
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Silas_clone
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

these things don't roll, they gallop.
do the Boozefighters know about M2's?
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure they do.
I know that most (or at least the ones that count)
m/c s consider buells
to be Harley-Davidosn twins, thus allowing
members to have them as primary rides.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, i changed the oil and filter. Didn't bleed the return. I was inna hurry, [had to make pizza]. So there is a little "left over" oil in the system.
Heeded the advice about not overfilling. 4 ozs in the filter, two quarts in the bag, go for a little spin, come back and recheck, add a little oil.
My belt is now "scary loose".
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Scary Loose" is our friend...
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, so now that the belt is loose, would that cause more vibration?
Seems like the bike is buzzier now that I went to the "scary loose" adjustment, i used the factory method of determining rear wheel alignment [dial caliper]and I am kinda sure that the wheel is straight to spec.
the bike seems to buzz more outside the "sweet spot" RPM, but at 70-80 mph it seems smooth.

Do we Buellinonians still use liquid [dynamic] tire balancer these days?

I noticed that both rims have wheel weight adhesive where there was but no longer is a wheel weight showing, I don't know if weights fell off or were removed in a re-balance procedure. I know the rear tire was replaced when I bought the bike, so maybe the weight was removed?

I can't believe that I could have owned this bike for 6 years already, but blind ignorance kept me from investigating Buell ownership...
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check for said vibe at static rev. not likely belt-related...at all...
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so just rev it at a standstill?
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep (in neutral!)- if it still has the above-described condition, it isn't belt-related....
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotcha...what about that tire balancer? The liquid stuff, does that do anything to these tires?
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nothing bad-
a really good tech once said to me: if a balance on the bike is good enough for roadracers, it's good enough for you.
amen to that.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geez, I've been doing double sessions since August 7th. I think that there is a motorcycle in my garage.

I have my updated parts waiting patiently in a box

1.updated shift linkage
2.muffler repacking [V&H]
3.front muff hanger [y type]
4.metal primary gasket

I plan to remove primary cover to check for updated chain tensioner, updated shifter pawl

Any warnings/advice/scary details?

I think I will also dyno, any good tuners in Durham, NC area?
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nope- sounds like you're sufficiently paranoid already.
pay less heed to the chicken littles of the web, and spend more time just riding.
i have none of these updates you speak of, and my sled's doing
fine.
listen silas- no offense, but you might be becoming a little too paranoid and anal about your scoot.
just ride it, stop listening for sounds of doom & gloom.
you know- this stuff kills me.
i have customers who ride 40 year old scoots, every day, who have no such complaints of noises, etc.
why do so many people with these under-10-year-old buells get so paranoid about them? they're well-made and strong. lose the skirt and ride it.
please.
stop with the vernier clipers and the updated shifter pawl, etc., already, and ride the snot out of the motorcycle.
reading these boards
can be like reading 'webmd'.
it creates a hypochondriasis that gets a life of it's own.
starts to sound like the equivalant of a group of old ladies comparing symptoms..."oh, my arthritis is acting up..."
"ohhh...my doctor is putting me back on lipitor", etc.
stop it already and ride, please, silas, before you get drawn in to the cirsle of walkers

(Message edited by tramp on August 19, 2005)
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