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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a new problem with the old S2. The turn signals on the left side are significantly dimmer than the rights, and so is the indicator light on the dash.

Where do I start?

rt
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Rickie_d
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the ground terminal on the fairing sub frame under your instrument cluster…Should be about dead center in the frame when the dash is lifted from it’s mounting studs…signals and dash lighting is grounded there.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the ground terminal on the fairing sub frame under your instrument cluster…Should be about dead center in the frame when the dash is lifted from it’s mounting studs…signals and dash lighting is grounded there.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check grounds for both bulbs on that side,have you replaced one recently?And check for corrosion of bulb bases and socket contacts.Do they still flash?
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, gents. I'll start with the grounds.

FMJ, yes, everything flashes, and at about the right speed, same on both sides, but the left side is noticeably dimmer at both signals as well as at the indicator on the dash.

rt
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check your bulbs - are they all the same make and wattage? use some dielectric (I think that's the word!) grease on the contacts and make sure there's no rust. I had a flash problem with my RS, which has S2 turn signals. It wouldn't flash at all, just the signals on either side would come on bright when I hit the button, but no flash. I even bought a new signal cancelling unit (pricey!) to no avail. Got 4 new bulbs and it fixed it, one that was in the bike was different and it caused the whole glitch. Sometimes it's the simplest things. Good luck- hope ya sort it out. AL
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Bartimus
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have the same problem with my S2
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what are these "turn signals" you speak of?
tell me about them...
tell me of all your strange and terrible rituals, white dog man
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Silas_clone
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am trying to stop using turn signals and just use hand signals. I always forget to hit that cancel button and I am afraid some soccer mom is gonna KO me. After 30 years of no turn signals, itsa lot to get used to. That left side shift is a little tricky too, I don't downshift to stop, just use that big old front brake...
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i miss indicators for the left turn, from a stop at alight. kinda need the left hand for holding the clutch, then....
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Silas_clone
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, my hand is kinda big but i can't quite clutch it and hit that left turn signal...the other thing that would be nice is a kicker.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a kicker is the
NUMBER ONE
accessory I'd like
to put on my Buell
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Silas_clone
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe a flatter seat without a "cup", so I could slide back and forth...anyone have a stock seat pan that they would like to part with? I would bring it to a custom seat guy and have one made.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"a kicker is the NUMBER ONE accessory I'd like
to put on my Buell"

and a fairbanks-morse magneto?
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Silas_clone
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mag would be nice, too...
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Jackbequick
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Silas-clone - I have an M2 also. I used three 1/4" layers of closed cell foam to raise that low area up 3/4" just as a temporary test. I made a pad that filled the low spot (the "cup" I guess you call it). It really made a difference in the comfort. I'm thinking the seat just needs to be redone flatter and with some better foam in the primary loadbearing area.

Closed cell foam supports weight better than regular from. Kind of like the difference between a hard mattress and a too soft mattress.

Layering closed cell over open cell should let you stay within a given height and fine tune for weight bearing/comfort by changing the height of the two layers.

Jack
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i run an m2 seat on my s2. goodbye, organ-grinder.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jack, where do you get closed cell foam?
I really think that if I don't get the seat issue addressed I'll be singing soprano
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you can find closed cel foam at...
ooops
sorry- my name's not jack
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope you didn't shoot the monkey...
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back on the ORIGINAL topic for a microsecond...

The difference in brightness port vs. starboard comes and goes (yes, I know that turn signals are SUPPOSED to do that). What I mean is,sometimes the port side is as bright as the starboard, and sometimes, it's dimmer. So not only is it likely a bad ground or connector, but it's intermittent. My two all time favorite electrical bugs to exterminate. Since I just got the bike back on the road yesterday for the first time in over a year, I'm not gonna mess with it until it quits.

I've got other stuff happening in the Entropy Lab del Sud:



This fine unit should be back together as soon as I can get a decent final clear coat on it. Maybe next week!

rt
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mmmmmmmmmm! Shovel....
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give that man a kewpie doll...

...how 'bout them 'Stros?

rt
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Jackbequick
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Closed cell foam - I just starting learning about it, here is some for sale from a place I have not tried yet. The same site has some info on foam types and densities that is interesting.

I just got interested in it. I think being sea sick might be a be a little worse than a bad case of leadbutt. It really takes the fun out of it all...

I'm going to make a temporary cover (out of cloth probably) for the pad I made so that I can strap it onto the seat for a couple of longer test rides. If it works out, I'm going to get my seat recovered this winter and bring the low spot up with an inch or so of closed cell foam.

I don't have anything against the aftermarket seat sellers, I would just like to figure it out for myself and see how it goes. I took a close look at the seat that is often mentioned here as the cure for leadbutt and it is a very nice seat. I want a seat that looks stock other than it being higher and flatter on the front half. I don't have a issue with leg length (33" inseam) so this will work for me.

Jack
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Jackbequick
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Back on the ORIGINAL topic for a microsecond..."

Sorry about the hijacked subject.

On the turn signals you might try taking a piece of wire and going from the ground on the shell of a lamp the affected side direct to a good ground (the negative battery post for example). If that solves the problem, take the wire off the lamp and start working back down the run to see if you can find an point where the problem starts again. That will narrow the problem area down a little.

Jack
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jack; I've been very happy with a Pro Pad installed in both my S3 and now my S2 seat. Very comfy even on a 750 mile day. Also have one in my SV seat - good for 500 mile days - but then, the SV is set up for track duty and a bit cramped.

I peeled back the stock cover and reshaped the seat using sanding disks, sanding drums and an electrical carving knife to reshape the seat and to make the cut-out for the pad.

More info here:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=4062&post=389350#POST 389350

Sorry Tom - no good ideas for your turn signals. Maybe the magic smoke got routed wrong?

Henrik
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jack: I live for topic creep!

Henrik: re "magic smoke", I haven't tried it since the 70's, and I didn't inhale...

rt
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik - Thanks for the links and great info. Now I have something else to learn about, "Viscoelastic Dry Polymer".

The description on working the stuff is priceless.

Jack
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, Jacques...if it has a long, polysyllabic name, it follows that it MUST be great, right?
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Er, Brer Thang -- I've heard of those new-fangled "lay-down" shocks before -- can you splain me how they work?

me, my butt gets numb after a couple a hunnert miles, and, regardless of how much longer I ride, it doesn't seem to get any number (nummer? numberer?)
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bomber don't lose that number
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's the only one I own
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



-steely tramp
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

groan -----

and to think I didn't smell that one comin . . . bad bomber, no cracker
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"..if it has a long, polysyllabic name, it follows that it MUST be great, right?"

No, I'd never jump to a conclusion like that. But it might be interesting.

Jack
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Silas_clone
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'd like to try and get a seat made, thanks for the closed cell info, all-a-you
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Hotrodsportster
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do a search for Russell All Day seats on the web. It will provide you with the Russell Web site. Most of the Iron Butt Group use his seats.

Good Luck
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