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Hodakaguy
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there a good place to order a crankshaft oil seal installation tool or does someone have one I could use. I changed my oil seal a couple months ago without the tool and it looks like its leaking by so I'll have to change it again. I would like to use the tool on it this time. I have a 97 S1. Thanks, Hodakaguy
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Tom

I have one of those tools. Shoot me your snail mail address and I'll send it out within the next week - a bit busy these days. you can just mail it back to me when you're done.

Henrik
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Patrickh
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the updated seal has a groove in it that gets nicked up if you try try install it with a piece of pvc or tubing, you really need the ring that the seal is intended to be installed with. I got mine from a harley dealer for $27.00, I think Jim's Tools sells them also www.jimsusa.com . They will try to sell you a handle too for an extra $75.00, but I just cut some steel tubing and used the crankshaft nut to press the seal in evenly. I'd let you use mine but I'm in NY.
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick's right. I used a slice of 1" black pipe between the crankshaft nut and the installer. Works like a charm.

Henrik
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a cast steel ring about 2 inch thick that fitted snug over the crank end - using the crank nut to tighten down and press seal home.

Final push to locate fresh seal - because it needs to seat just a tad inside the crankcase and not sit flush - I used the old seal (still in good shape) placed in front of steel ring to get that little extra push home.

Rocket
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a tinker toy (read: dowel rod), and it worked fine. Just put a little lip so you can control the depth, then kind of a wide V point to go in the seal. Then just work your way around.

The install tool makes it easier to do it right, but it is not the only way.

Getting the old seal out is the really annoying part of the job.}
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik,
Yours works great!
You cannot overinsert the seal as it is designed to bottom out on the crank when it's the correct depth.
I tried to find one like it but was nable to locate the manufacturer.
I can't remember the name off the top of my head but I have it written down at home.

I'd still like to pick one up...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to clarify what Blue is saying, *if* you are using the tool, you cannot overinsert the seal. That's what the tool does for you.

If you bottom out the seal (by not using the tool), it presses against the crank bearings (rubber on steel) and will get a hole cut into it in about 3200 miles. Not that I know this first hand or anything.


Mine worked out fine, until my 5 year old spotted the remainder of the tinker toy in my toolbox. When he spotted it, he said "Hey! You took my tinker toy!".

I patiently explained to him that it was necessary, as the good tupperware cup that I snagged from the cabinet was not thin enough once I cut it down.

The wife was not as understanding when she saw the remains of the cup.

Time to start locking the toolbox...
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Hodakaguy
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik, Thanks for the offer! I sent you a PM. Hodakaguy
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