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Al_lighton
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point, Brad. Also, Country, while that routing looks clean, it is also guaranteed to form traps in the line that oil will puddle in, causing burps. Any of the myriad of products that connect the two breather ports with something that goes OVER The carb is a recipe for burping.

Breather hoses should always go ONLY down from the time they leave the side of the heads. Other arrangements may work, and may LOOK cleaner, but are sub-optimal from a breather perspective.
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Country
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bluz,
Yeah we forgot it to begin with, but yeah we put it back.

AL,
The metal hoses are the same ones from Force, so I am guessing that it should be ok. The way it is now hits my knee so I need to find another way to route it. Maybe if we go under the intake?? There has to be a better way and I don't want to cut performance.

Thank you both for the advice.
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Country
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AL, here is the way the hoses were routed prior to me messin with em. They were just mirrored, but if you are saying this can still hurt performance, I'll take your word on it.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Country, let's move this to the KV Breather section before the "Sheriff" show up ; )
Go here http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3842&post=260580#POST 260580

Brad
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Southernmarine
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am now the PROUD owner of a Brand spankin new 2004 XB12R, Scarlet and Gold (yeah it's red, but for us Marines it's our colors). My neighbor will be taking the Blast off my hands. Looks like I've successfully converted another into the fold. My little one will be disappointed, I think he thought the Blast was his. Hey, he'll enjoy the Bolt. Dad and Son

edited by southernmarine on May 09, 2004
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Timbo
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bartimus,
Nice pics! Bet the ride was just as good.

SouthernMarine,
Cool! Enjoy!

Timbo
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SouthernMarine; congratulations on the new bike. Looks great. And it sure looks like you little one thought he had dips on the Blast : ) Well, someday ...

Henrik
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al...thanks for the pointer on the breather routing. I recently re-routed the banjos on the S1 to be a similar set-up as Country had. I've been experiencing some "burping" that I thought was possibly caused by a poor intake seal. I'll try reverting the breather and see if that works.

Country...don't feel too bad about forgetting the bracket. I did the same thing while rebuilding the S1W. I couldn't figure out why my carb didn't want to stay on the bike
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Country
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks lake. Glad to help you out as well.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This rocks.

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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just a little nod to the design of the really early tubers, from a visual sense, anyways
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd love to see what kind of numbers that thing is putting out. Needless to say, I'm not buying a 4500 euro (about $5700 American) supercharger anytime soon.

Aside from the outragous cost, that is one sweet looking ride. I love the intakes. And of course, that "classic" euro rat bike tail.

See more pics here:
Hillbilly Motors
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it just me? When I hear the term "supercharger" I think of a blower. I see a turbocharger in the above pic. Ain't no way a turbo is worth that kind of money. Big bore baybee! That's what I'M talknbout! : D
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Southernmarine
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need some input, I'm a safety nut and I'm considering putting some 1/2" Gold Reflective Pin Striping on the bike. Anyone have any ideas as to design. Wife says just do the double stripes down the middle. What do ya'll think?

Front View Rear View
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Southernmarine
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another Angle

Side Angle
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the angles of the bodywork, I'm not sure it's going to do much for visibility. But if you must, I agree with your wife.

Henrik
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Southernmarine
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a few different ideas, just trying to see if anyone might have some insightful input. There is also some black reflective tape I could possibly put on the back side of the frame to light me up from behind. Gonna see if I can't find some to come to a closer match of the frame.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do a gold reflective pinstripe that runs along the edge of the windscreen like a trim piece. Inside the fairing edge but on the windscreen itself.
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Lornce
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Southernmarine,
I'm a bit of a safety idiot myself when it comes to reflective material on the back of my bikes and riding gear. An old hold-over from the years when I rode big miles in all kinds of weather. The rear of my helmets and saddlebags are festooned with highly visible reflective tape and decals. Good insurance in the event of a failed taillight or blown fuse. Must work, cause I've never been rear ended.... That was a statistics joke. : )

Anyhow, if it where my XB12R I'd be applying reflective material to the rearward facing portions of the swingarm and the rear of the passenger peg hardware. Back of the helmet too, of course. I'm assuming your riding jacket has reflective material across the shoulders or down the back of the arms and on the waist belt?

Like I warned you: I'm a reflective compulsive.

Gorgeous bike, btw. Good on you, sir!

Lornce
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Southernmarine
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking about the swingarm, hadn't thought about the peg's. I want to try and make the tape match as much as possible, hey they have all kinds of colors nowadays. Here's my helmet:

Helmet

Thanks for the ideas Wycked and Lornce.

edited by Southernmarine on May 11, 2004
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

black reflective tape? different colors? tell us more, please!
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about on the underside of the tail section, or along the higher apexs of the ridges and bends.

Years ago I reflective-taped a bicycle that I used as a commuter. Put small pieces around the rims between the spokes, the rotating tires at night under the lights really made it jump out of the darkness. Any moving parts, or as noted on all rear-facing surfaces like the footpeg arms.

And dang if I'm not starting to think of an R with S pegs. Just wish the gas tank had more capacity. I think I'll wait until August.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These guys have reflective tape in various colors.

http://www.tapeworks.com/
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Cap'n
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Outrider
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My personal approach would be the reflective rims and better tail/brake lights combined with reflective jacket and helmet. However, the following is a few suggestions that you may consider.

Check the MC Magazine ads and local auto/cycle shops for the reflective tape that is flexible and applies to your rims. That stuff really works!!!

Also consider 1/4" or less reflective pin stripe tape and follow the lines of the bike with a single or double stripe. You can get real artistic with the narrow stuff.

Other than cosmetics, I can't see much benefit of the down-the-middle racing strips unless you want to be seen from above (as in helicopters and tall trucks). Then again, it would compliment other areas that you pin stripe.

Not much rear area and the front will be offset by the headlamps. Perhaps investing in additional/brighter rear lighting would be your best alternative. Lots of stuff available from bulbs to larger lights to accessory lights to lighted license plate frames not to mention there is a rear brake light available for your helmet as well.

In the event you can't find narrower or wider reflective tape in a particular color, send me an email and I will get whatever info I can for you from a friend that owns a firm that does the tape striping for the car dealers in LA and Orange County. If he doesn't know where to get it, nobody does.

A word of caution, and this is a bit funny, the worst experience I ever had was following a friend that was wearing a new Aerostich one-piece suit. With the large reflective stripe on his suit I was driving my Miata virtually blind. Thank God he added additional tail/brake lights (including the license plate frame) or I would have run over him a few times that night in the city and neither of us drank or did drugs and were fully rested. I guess the moral of the story is sometimes you can do too much of a good thing.

Good luck and please post night and day pics when you are done with the project.

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Cu_chulann
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Southernmarine
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Outrider, good advice. I'll take all those ideas into consideration. Thanks for that link Capt, for those interested, here are a few more links:

http://reflectivedecals.com

http://www.edecals.com

I've thought about brighter lights, but until I can afford to make the tail change I want and do that I'm looking for simple, cheap ways, especially to light me up from the side and rear.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had those lights that screw onto your valvestems on the wheels. They come on when the wheel spins. Really helps to be seen at night and looks cool too. They did not last long though after a few wet rides. I'm also not sure if they are legal or not. You can usually pick them up at Autozone or such cheap.
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Evaddave
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a bizarre idea that would probably work really well if someone could pull it off: put little bits of reflective tape in between the treads on the tires.

That sure would look freaky, but I bed you'd get noticed.

The trouble would be finding a good adhesive.

Or, they make colored tires. Why not *reflective* colored tires?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about the gold striping you would see on a race winning Ferrari? I would go for gold reflective tape about 1/2" wide. Two strips on each side, about 1/2" in between them. Both starting under the rear corner of the seat and running from there down to the under tray under the seat. Maybe run them at the same angle as the trailing edge of the frame.

I would also maybe run strips along the right and left face of the spokes on the rear rim.

Another thing to consider is the fairly high rate of the cage turning left in front of you accident. I would probably also put two of those "Ferrari" stripes on the front.

On the Ferrari's they would run the strip from the front right wheel well up over the hood at about a 45 degree angle and about 1/5th of the way across the hood.

I'm having trouble thinking of a way to make that look right on the fairing so maybe something on the front facing "mudguard" portion of the front fender.
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