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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2022 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2022 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, but I wasn't aware we were "reeling from the outbreak"....?
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2022 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2022 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My new opinion is: Anyone who opens up the topic of racism is your racist. I don't care.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2022 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What RD said

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Whisperstealth
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2022 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard to argue with ya RD, when it's the case the vast majority of the time.

(Message edited by Whisperstealth on November 26, 2022)
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2022 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree,

the Foreign Press Association complaint may be perfectly valid though, in European or Asian news stories we don't see.


Some Asian countries are much more blatantly racist than accepted here or the UK, by normal, not woke, regular people. So consider this a slam on others, and maybe the Party Media, but not... you.

I don't need to get into American Racism, which is a Party Thing.

As to what images you use to represent the Pox? Cartoons of the germ is the only safe one. French flamboyant gays? Rainbow Pride Pox graphics? Save that for political cartoons and even there, it's pretty aggressively rude, & I'd save that for rebutting blatant lies spread by politicians.

This is a disease where I'd urge anyone at risk to get vaccinated. It's not a near impossible to vaccinate for Coronavirus, and the vaccine is proven and as safe as you get. Not perfect. Nothing is.

How to determine risk? Are you sexually active with partners you don't know? Bingo. Relative or house guest in that category? Bingo. Get vaccinated and don't worry. Herd immunity is possible. This can, and should, die off if irresponsible sluts act a bit more responsible.

Feel free to accuse me of some jealousy and disdain for the type. I can't count the women I've been denied a good relationship with because of crummy males

Sucks that the Covidpanicdemic crud has poisoned the environment with bad bureaucrats and censorship and tyrannical impulses by politicians. That seriously is a problem getting the people who should get safe being unsafe.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2022 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Y'know, once upon a time, such idiocy posted here on BW wasn't tolerated. I have NO use for anyone spreading their hate and stupidity.

RD is a great and dear friend, and I know his heart. Politics be DAMNED. If you cannot recognize the humanity of your neighbor, so much the loss of your soul.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2022 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a diverse group for neighbors. Everyone of them great people now that the insane one has passed. He was just gone in the mind. I had to run interference for the teen girls because he would creep them out. I never treated him less for it. I hope I nor any of my friends have that kind of break from reality. I've worked places where I was in the minority. It gave me a chance to open my eyes and meet great people in a harsh environment. Am I prejudiced? Well, I assume fire to be hot and ice to be cold. I prefer to call myself cautious and informed. I trust but verify. My family comes first and I don't pretend otherwise. By default I know sane men will put theirs before me. I know crack heads and meth addicts can't be trusted to do the right thing. I may call the neighbor kids terrorists, but they are my terrorists. I ignore most people's political leaning. The politicians in this country have become seditious egomaniacs and I don't believe people have prepared their selves for the assault on their liberties. When I know that a friend of mine and I do not agree, I don't try to convert them to "my way". I do give them credit enough that I can ask their reasoning. I like to understand why someone thinks different than I do. If I give you a hard time, it is a complement. If I ignore you it is my loss. Most of the time I'll tell someone if they are getting on my nerves and will ask that others tell me when I'm annoying. Do I think skin color makes a man? No! Do I think there is greatness in everyone? Yes! When I was a certified trainer for a major corporation every student I had was able to learn. I struggled with training only one person. I got permission from upper management to extend a 40 hour course to 80 hours and found resources to help me reach the individual. I learned more in those 2 weeks than my student. They passed the course and I felt exhausted and relieved.
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2022 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey folks is anybody of you planning to take a dose of monkeypox vaccine by any chance? You know just in case.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2022 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ourdee,
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2022 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As to the vaccine, I'm going for it

A. because I do first aid at fighting & camping events. People step on broken glass, etc.

B. Might help boost my smallpox immunity, and we're getting immigrants from everywhere.

C. Insert joke here. : )
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2022 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Y'know, once upon a time, such idiocy posted here on BW wasn't tolerated. I have NO use for anyone spreading their hate and stupidity.
RD is a great and dear friend, and I know his heart. Politics be DAMNED. If you cannot recognize the humanity of your neighbor, so much the loss of your soul.


Admirable sentiment, but in Politics and in "woke" culture being called a "Racist" seems to be the escape for giving a rational thought / argument to support an idea.
Having been called a racist because I am white/ support Trump/ or I believe in law and order.( or any non left leaning idiocy )

Is it racist to call out a group when you see video of a flash mob robbing a store and ALL of the PPL on the Vid are one particular minority ethnic group?
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When a City is being burned by largely one group?, when this "Group" insists that they be catered to for real or perceived past injustices that they may or may not have experienced.

Or the lunatics' ravings of a minority tv host that endlessly blames whites for the problems experienced by their communities?
That are mostly of their own making..

On the Monkey Pox re-name
A thought, keep it on the edge of public awareness, with little stories like this, come mid late 2023, just in time for the election we have a "massive outbreak" of the
new designation of the "POX" so that the repeat of election law violation is tolerated for oh "Public safety"

OH BTW where did MP come from?
where is it still found?

Consider this Ebola ( hemorrhagic fever )
Originated where?, Is found where?,
is it racist to state facts?

And I agree with RD's sentiment

US Politics would be highly entertaining if we were not forced to participate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OH BTW where did MP come from?
where is it still found?

Consider this Ebola ( hemorrhagic fever )
Originated where?, Is found where?,
is it racist to state facts?


Africa, now in Europe and America.

And someone local I know, distantly, got it. He got it from a contact in NYC, so I assume a transatlantic connection with France, where the unknown Patient Zero presumably came from Algeria or Libya, ethnicity presumably semite/Arab.

If you can believe the initial reports, there was a big "post covid so we can gather in large groups and party" event in France, and it spread from there. Second first hand report was from the Big Apple, where, again, there was a "post covid party" with unsafe sex.

From there, it's the mobile promiscuous and careless spread from folk that should know better. In fact, the famous ( because he wrote about it ) NYC writer DID know better but in the spirit of rebellion against the Covidiot Lockdown New York abandoned rational thought and had a grand old time at the Big orgy. Then suffered pretty gruesome agony. I'm sure you can find his article if you enjoy TMI.

Personally, I don't get invited to orgies and probably an too shy and uptight to accept if I did. But I am at risk if I find myself pulling crash victims out of Another flipped over smoking automobile wreck. Or putting a bandage on a cut at a historical reenactment event. I'm just lucky that way.

So I'm on the waiting list for the vaccine. I don't need to worry about it after that. ( and because of AIDS, I've gloves in my car, & tank bag, and had training, repeatedly, in trying not to be stupid. )


As to Ebola, it originated in Africa and keeps recuring. Monkey Pox has a good shot at killing you without modern medicine. Ebola has a good shot at killing you WITH modern medicine. So? The big mass plagues over the last few thousand years come out of China, mostly. Those are also zoonotic diseases.

It's poverty, and transportation, that are the factors in this stuff. Chickens in the living room and live animal markets with lousy sanitation.

Then there's bio war research, where the death of millions might come from a city in China, or an abandoned Soviet testing area in the 'stans.

Race has diddle to do with this.
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Zane
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just want to know which monkey complained.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2022 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, to be clear, I am NOT accusing you of racism.

The racism angle here starts with the African Press folk alleging that stock photos of dark skinned folk are being used by North American and UK press in their stories.

Of North American and UK spread of the disease.

I don't know if that's true. Haven't seen it. But I don't get Canadian or British newspaper articles, and I'll just Assume they are as leftist as US press, and leftists here are racist as hell. Rather obviously.

I addressed that in my first post, above. You aren't who they are upset with and neither am I, and it isn't a big surprise that lazy leftist racist reporters use stock photos to try to scare their leftist, racist, customer base. Fear and Hate sell papers. Or gets clicks, same thing today.

I did notice that the FPAA press release above doesn't mention China. I'll just Assume they don't want to get their funding cut, and that the complaint might be sponsored to feed racism hatred by the CCP. ( who have Big Influence in Africa with their "Belt & Road" infiltration programs )

Ditto WHO wanting a name change and ditto CCP influence.

I look forward with utmost cynicism and sarcasm for the New And Improved Brand Name.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2022 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As to the vaccine, I'm going for it

A. because I do first aid at fighting & camping events. People step on broken glass, etc.

B. Might help boost my smallpox immunity, and we're getting immigrants from everywhere.

C. Insert joke here.


Well, doing first aid or stepping on the glass is not enough to be infected by monkeypox. Monkeypox requires pretty deep penetration into your body thru the anus executed multiple times by an infected person or an infected animal, or deep penetration into the infected person body or into the infected animal body thru the infected person (or animal) anus executed by yourself multiple times.

Do you think there is a chance it can happen with you or you can spread monkeypox this way?

(Message edited by TPEHAK on December 07, 2022)
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2022 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your grasp of epidemiology would astound me, if I thought you were not kidding. Trofim Denisovich Lysenko would be impressed. Ignaz Semmelweis, not so much.
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