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Xbpete
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Figures, no great surprise Duc...





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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Xbpete
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Notpurples2
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, cause not wearing protection worked out really well for Freddie.
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Needs_o2
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can blame Fauci for that too!



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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Afaik, Fauci has little to do with the FDA criminalizing "unapproved" drugs for the AIDS victims.

His HIV related sins are probably worse, testing drugs on children with inadequate adult advocacy & permission.

Often, false accusations mask real bad behavior. Like accusing Hitler of hypocrisy for being a closet gay & persecuting gays. ( untrue, it was the SS leader who was homosexual ) Kinda ignores all the murdered, eh?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails- great-barrington-declaration-covid-pandemic-lockdo wn-11640129116?mod=opinion_trending_now_opn_pos2
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/12/22/secret-ser vice-100-billion-in-covid-relief-funds-stolen-n437 128
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/12/22/new-york-b ill-to-create-internment-camps-for-the-unvaccinate d-pulled-by-sponsor-n437085

Nothing to see here. Sure, quarantine facility sounds better than internment camp. It's disobedience jail, any disease will do. Obey. It's for your own good.

Just because it's originally for Ebola doesn't change that it gets put out there, and tabled, for over half a decade.

Cynically, I understand the motivation in that the "public" can be morons, especially in the age of Antisocial Media with enforced lies and censored truths. After all, we are told that a majority voted for a sick old man hiding in his basement with a 7 pm beddy bye time. And a New York Legislator certainly thinks & has ample evidence, that "the people" can't be trusted, or he would have to work for a living.

But thanks to the hysteria on the Left, reacting to the report about this bill, it got enough publicity to be temporarily pulled, at least until it's business as usual.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2021 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good news! According to a team from the Washington University School of Medicine, if you’ve recovered from COVID, you’re likely protected for life.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/if-youve-had-covid-youre-likely-protected-for-life_4169013.html

Naturally, when I posted a link to this article on Facebook:


notice
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2021 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2021 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, acquired immunity is broader and better than the mRNA vaccines, except for the getting sick part. That can kill or cripple you. Especially if older, fatter, and sicker.

I'm still waiting for better data on bad side effects on younger men and women. Because it's political, hard to find trustworthy sources on side effects, inflammation seems the big problem, all related to individual biochemistry, just as how severe any bug is to you.

Do I discount the doom pushers on the Left and eagerly buy the doom pushers on the Right? Or treat any editorial as Opinion and wait for actual science?

Because all you get are editorials from the "news".

Where are the death counts at the corner of every CNN show? They were there last year. I guess the crisis is over since they quit talking about it with the new Occupants moved in.

Reminds me of the daily death count in Afghanistan & Iraq. Every day, 24/7 until suddenly a New Occupant and never, ever mentioned again.

Where do you go to fact check this? "More Allied servicemen ( & women ) died in Afghanistan under Barry, than under George."
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2021 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_mili tary_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan

Not a trustworthy source. Imho. Even if it confirms my statement above.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2021 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/don ald-trump-defends-vaccines.php

Trump's big accomplishment is getting the vaccines through the bureaucracy and getting them distributed widely. Both are not trivial!

I do appreciate his position that he recommends vaccination, but doesn't Demand obedience from all.

Contrast & compare....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2021 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is evidence (as in, dead bodies) of severe heart problems among the (otherwise healthy, and actually athletic) young recipients of the jab. It is poo-poohed by the "press" as "not related to the jab", but....close enough to medical data for my mind.

They're pushing it this hard, demanding compliance ("or else!")...I think I'll wait it out. Especially since the latest (horrible! huge new cases! it's everywhere!) variant MIGHT give you a case of the sniffles if you get it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2021 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And...BOOM.



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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2021 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and no, it is not just a meme:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines /safety/myocarditis.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2021 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/cov id-common-sense.php

Good read! Worth your time and otherwise I feel no need to comment.I

Rat,

The spike protein causing inflammation is why I have been not urging using the current mRNA vaccines on children and young adults, but do recommend it for at risk elderly. I don't have reliable numbers on risk.

The vaccines that don't induce production of spike protein, which we now know some people can't process well, seem a much better choice, if available. But I must point out that there's a small percentage of people who have allergies to the egg protein found in traditional vaccine production, and they should make another choice.

I do wonder if the genetic issues with processing spike protein is a factor in the severity of reaction to the Coronavirus itself, too.

I'm reminded of a 1980's short sci-fi story in Analog magazine. A ship sunk in WW2 with a uber-toxic chemical in the hold, starts leaking and the unexpected aged & altered chemical will destroy all sea life we depend on to, well, breathe. Desperately, the scientists recommend dropping a big nuke on the sunken ship to destroy the threat. Then the resulting waves cause suoertankers to wreck, releasing enough toxic oil in just the wrong places to, yep, destroy all life, so they nuke Them, which....
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://jewishworldreview.com/1221/lowry122721.php

Dems learn that COVID doesn't care about party politics

Washington, D.C., is now the epicenter of the pandemic.
As of Dec. 23, it had 158 COVID-19 cases per 100,000 residents, a 541% growth in cases over the last two weeks. This was much more than Alabama, Mississippi or South Carolina, all of which had cases in the 20s or below per 100,000.

Is this because D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser cares less about controlling the virus than the governors of those three Southern states? No, if anything she's been overly zealous. It's just that the omicron surge has hit at a time when the winter season means that places like D.C. — and especially the Northeast — are particularly susceptible.

The omicron wave should finally put paid to the perfervid fantasy, a staple of center-left thinking, that the coronavirus is somehow primarily a red state phenomenon, fueled by Republican recklessness and heartlessness.


Should, but won't. I bet they double down. Expect more demands for restrictions on liberties, and an unrelenting hatred campaign against their Enemies. Anyone who questions them.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's just that the omicron surge has hit at a time when the winter season means that places like D.C. — and especially the Northeast — are particularly susceptible.

Yep.

It's called....




.....wait for it....













FLU SEASON.

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What? There are OTHER DISEASES?!

There are SEASONS?!

Why didn't anyone tell me?! ( sarcasm )

This is what happens when the medically illiterate run things. Utter ignorance and denial of the simplest things any nurse or rational person who listens to one knows.

The ignorance is the natural state of the stupid or incurious. The denial is criminal.

None of the classes I've taken are for Elites. Heck, I've taken the same course on not getting body fluids in my eyes and mouth multiple times. ( they keep finding new diseases to warn us about, but otherwise... ) And I've been lucky to take CPR classes with EMS pros, who aren't shy about telling cautionary tales. I give them credit for preparing me a little for the nastier scenes I've been at. Especially those fortunately few where there was nothing anyone could do.

I've had more medical instruction in a tent than a classroom. On purpose. That's where I learned to cover the wounded's body with my own when the helicopters kick up dust. That has proved tragically useful. Ditto making splints from whatever...

And yeah I take CPR repeatedly. They keep updating the technique. I was originally taught the precordial thump.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precordial_thump

We don't do that anymore. For Reasons.

I'm that old. I'm still young enough to have missed being taught the outdated and Wrong ideas of little demons causing disease, and that Kings can cure with Magic.

( although the ancient practice of human sacrifice of the King to appease the gods and stop a plague occasionally seems wise... Sarcasm )
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Needs_o2
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire,
You really think it's ignorance? You think they don't know the truth?
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Needs_o2
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They know!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/what_ do_the_uk_vaccine_surveillance_reports_tell_us.htm l
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/omicr on_upends_the_class_politics_of_covid.html

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-zoom-class-get s-covid/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The transformation in the attitude to “being infected “ is interesting. That ties back to the focus on cases and not if they got sick or not and age groups.etc. Plus the hatred of therapeutics such as HCQ, etc. The only hope had to be lockdowns and government control.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/biden s_comments_about_air_travel_create_massive_instabi lity_in_america.html

While the criticism of Just Joe* being inconsistent is completely valid, since he just reads what he's given, And any criticism of Fauci that isn't a lie is deserved, ( and some are false )

I do have a technical/propaganda argument with one point.

Airliner air filtration systems.

We are assured they are state of the art and make flying in an airliner perfectly safe.

Uh, what filtration system? I'm serious.

Airliners, turbo prop puddle jumpers or the biggest 4 engine Airbus, ALL use the same air system to keep passengers alive. It's in the FAA regulations.

It's pretty darn simple, bleed air from the compressor stage of the turbine. ( suck-squeeze-bang-blow is the same cycle as your bike. You "bleed" ( graphic, but accurate ) a small part of the compressed air off the engine and pipe it into the plane )

That air is passed through a control valve, ( so you don't lose power on the ground, important to take off ) and, yes, a filter. ( for dust and smoke. You might notice it doesn't stop smells, as you get strong whiffs of burnt Jet-A when the wind is right and you taxi through another plane's exhaust )

The compressed air is ducted into the cockpit, and First Class, up at the front of the plane. Through those overhead air vents, too.

The fresh air flows, slowly, from front to back, where it escapes through the second Most Important part, the pressurization control valve. Then out of the plane. ( if it jams shut, the fuselage will split open like a blown tire. If it jams open, alarms go off, and the pilot descends until the air is thick enough to keep the passengers alive and diverts to the nearest airport ) Airliners have at least 2 of those escape valves to be sure the cabin doesn't explode.

One pass, front to back. There are curtains Between sections, not even close to air tight.

Airliner really don't like pointing out the expensive seats get the most fresh air, and the cheap seats in back get far less, and mostly get the used air from up front. Luckily the dry air doesn't carry smells as much so the body stink, farts, etc. aren't unbearable, even at the back.

It's not circulated. It's generally one big room, and they dump it so you don't suffocate from the CO2 everyone exhales.

One seldom mentioned fact is that EVERY American airline eagerly banned smoking in quick succession, not so much out of concern for passenger health, but because it allowed them to turn down the bleed air valve ( which improved fuel economy ) once the need to reduce the smoke to a bearable level ( especially in the cheap seats ) was gone.

Most of the cost of airline travel is fuel. Gallons per passenger mile. Saving a fraction of a gallon over hundreds of both is a Huge change in profits.

They reinforced the cockpit doors after 2001. They reduced galley gear over time, and went to pre-packaged meals, or none, over time. ( the original 747s had much bigger kitchens than today, and they were small compared to the Boeing Clippers )

But filtration? They sure haven't changed anything except the filter cartridge in the last 2 years.

And since the air comes from Outside, unless you are taxiing through a zombie apocalypse, airborne viruses aren't an issue, at all.

But INSIDE the flying bus, it's a tube full of people breathing the same air. Period.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.science.org/content/article/novavax-s- long-awaited-covid-19-vaccine-authorizations-offer -alternative-mrna


Good news.

A close friend is in the test program, he's still alive despite working retail!
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/12/29/science -cnn-finally-admits-cloth-masks-dont-stop-covid-bu t-nobody-told-biden-n1545259
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BOOM.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/huge-cdc-withdraws-use-pcr-test-covid-finally-admits-test-can-not-differentiate-flu-covid-virus/

(Message edited by ratbuell on December 29, 2021)
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CDC page is dated July 21, 2021. I missed the screamin’ headlines about it.
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