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Bandm
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/bistella-500- boasts-diy-10-cylinder-supercharged-radial-engine- in-a-jawa-frame/ar-AARh1eW?ocid=msedgntp

https://www.bistella.cz/gallery/
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Integrated supercharger impellers!
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Impeller is probably not the correct word.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had gotten the idea that radial engines had to have an odd number of cylinders.

Wait until that fellow Milyard finds out about this bike!
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This might be the coolest thing I’ve seen in years.
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Wcbrracing
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2021 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are called “rotors” in a supercharger, those are twin lobe…

Depending how you look at it, it’s a “two row flat 5”..

damn impressive engineering and machining! Bummer at the super low horsepower due to emissions restrictions
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2021 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


I had gotten the idea that radial engines had to have an odd number of cylinders


It does, per row. 5 cylinder x 2 twin row radial.

Odd number radials are a balance "thing".

Or at least very few radials with even numbers per row have been built, and none commercially successful. I recall a 4 cylinder based on VW Beetle cylinders. X shaped. Don't think It got beyond prototype.

Makes a lovely sound.

I think there are/were some 2 row boxer engines, that look like X. But not technically a radial, depending upon your definition.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2021 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I should have read/looked closer.

For a two row, look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brough_Superior_Gold en_Dream
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2021 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW. Thanks for that, Duc. I've always loved those bikes.

Here's something I've ALWAYS wanted... might've seen/heard one in person when I was still at Smoky Mountain H-D/BUELL... A Feuling W3!



https://youtu.be/ZaTpxwd-jb4
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2021 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That Brough is awesome, it's an H engine, like the Napier Sabre, used in the Typhoon fighter bomber. ( one of the fastest piston engine planes at low altitude, used to chase V-1 jet cruise missiles. And blow the guts out of tanks.... )

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Sabre

https://oldmachinepress.com/2020/09/20/napier-h-24 -sabre-aircraft-engine/

It's Gloriously Complex!

Not a radial, though.

It's not just cylinders in a circle. It's the crank & connecting rods arrangement.

Your H-D ( based ) twins, the Allison V-1710 & Rolls Royce Merlin and Griffon, ( all V engines ) Napier Sabre, ( H ) etc. All have knife & fork rods to eliminate rocking couple. ( cylinders in line/plane)

True Radials have a Master Rod and slave rods pivoting on the Master. All in one plane to eliminate vibes and shorten the crank. A P&W R-985 and other single row radials only have one crank throw, like a H-D, but with typically 3, 5, 7, or 9 cylinders. Per row.

Double row engines stack the pancakes. ; )

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_ R-2800_Double_Wasp#/media/File:Cross_Section_of_a_ Pratt_and_Whitney_R2800_Double_Wasp.JPG

The Bistella 500 has 5 cylinders per row and the master/slave rod arrangement.

Even the famous P&W R-4360 with 4 rows, has only one crank throw per row. They just mounted them in a spiral for cooling.

The Bistella's integrated supercharger is because the crankcase volume changes aren't adequate or correct to pump the charge air into the cylinders, like a RD400 or typical piston port dirt bike engine. I

Clever, cool, and mechanical Art. Or Porn, depending on your attitude.
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