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     Macbuell |
There is some thought, with research to back it up, that one of the reasons COVID-19 has been such a severe disease is that not only is your body fighting off a nasty virus but the Spike protein itself is causing damage to arteries and capillaries. This would explain damage to the heart, liver and even brain if it passes the blood brain barrier in some patients, and also symptoms of so called long haulers. Every single COVID-19 vaccine uses the Spike protein to create the immune response. If the spike protein causes damage to arteries and capillaries, this might explain the myocarditis and many other issues that some people have had with the vaccines. Even scarier, there is a theory that this damage could be wide spread but just not symptomatic in most people. This was confirmed on a small scale by a doctor who ran D Dimer tests on his patients that were recently vaccinated. 60% showed signs of micro clotting. Like I said, small scale. The worry is that this damage could lead to a significant increase in heart disease in the coming years. But yes, let's force everyone to take it under penalty of losing their ability to support themselves and their families. BTW, I am not anti-vaccine but I am 100% for informed consent. As long as there is coercion and not full disclosure of all side effects and the true number of harmed individuals, there cannot be informed consent. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
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| Ratbuell |
A friend of mine (50, female) got covid last spring. Loss of taste, smell, for a few weeks; felt like a bad flu for about 3 days. Then...she got the jab THIS spring. She's very athletic - mountain bikes with me, spin classes, kickboxing, you name it. Now, she's saddled with severe joint pain and her doc has told her she now has RA. She's getting her hip MRI'd next week because she can barely walk from the pain. The part that REALLY scares me? Her 20 year old daughter - also very athletic, softball, ballet, powerlifting, swimming - went through the same thing. Covid last spring, jab this spring. Now, she sounds like popcorn when she stands up and walks across the room. She doesn't SAY she's in pain, but....she's 20. Even if she were, she wouldn't admit it... | ||
| Ducbsa |
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| Ducbsa |
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/474911/#respond | ||
| Sami |
PART 1: Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA | ||
| Ratbuell |
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| Sami |
Spoke to someone I know the other day, he plans to get the jab next month. He already got Coflu two months ago, so he has natural immunity against it. His excuse for wanting to take the jab is that he wants to travel and eat out. I warned him about the risks, but he laughed. He told me that his mind is made and that he's going to take it no matter what I say. He trusts the Science®, I don't. He believes that taking the jab is the ticket back to normalcy. I reminded him that he still has to wear the mask and keep distancing like everyone else the coming winter. "Experience is an expensive school, but there’s no other school for the fools." Benjamin Franklin Let them have the first laugh, let them mock us. Winter is coming, it will be an expensive school. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I still don't understand why they won't accept positive antibody tests as "acceptable". Well. I still don't understand why ANY of this is such a big deal. 99.7% recovery rate...yea...shakin' in my boots over them odds... | ||
| Crusty |
Get Covid. See just how crappy you feel and for just how long. And when a professional who went to school, studied and trained for over a decade says, this shot will make you feel better a lot faster, Then make your decision. I'll get the shot. | ||
| Sami |
If professionals were really concerned about making people feel better a lot faster, then they would get people on a healthy diet, exercise and good sleep. I am not planning on getting Covid. I am not planning on seeing how crappy I would feel and for how long. I am not planning to get the shot. Instead, I am planning to eat healthy, to exercise and to have a good night sleep. There are a million things out there that will make you feel crappy for long. Should we therefore get a shot for each and every one of those things? The shot is experimental. Healthy diet, exercise and sleep are not experimental. Make your decision. | ||
| Chauly |
Even though the fatality rate is only .3%, that's over a million people across the country... | ||
| Ratbuell |
....and 3M Americans die every year, for being alive... Covid fatality rate: 0.3% American fatality rate: 0.9% (0.9% is 3M out of 331M citizens...and three TIMES the rate for covid) | ||
| Sami |
And one of the best ways to reduce the fatality rate is to lose weight. CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-fi nds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were- overweight-or-obese.html | ||
| Sami |
But instead of telling people to lose weight, they are treated with pepsi and donuts. Krispy Kreme will give you a free doughnut every day this year — if you've been vaccinated https://www.cbsnews.com/news/krispy-kreme-free-doughnut-covid-19-vaccination-card/  Good thing there's some backlash: Krispy Kreme faces backlash for free doughnut promotion for vaccinated people https://www.today.com/food/krispy-kreme-faces-backlash-free-doughnuts-vaccinated-people-t213204 | ||
| Sami |
Not one, but TWO donuts: Krispy Kreme doubles down on free doughnuts for the vaccinated [Updated] https://thetakeout.com/show-covid-vaccine-card-get -free-krispy-kreme-donut-1846526154 So much for reducing the fatality rate... | ||
| Sami |
"I still don't understand why they won't accept positive antibody tests as "acceptable". Well. I still don't understand why ANY of this is such a big deal. 99.7% recovery rate...yea...shakin' in my boots over them odds..." What you don't understand is that this is not about logic, this is about rhetoric. Aristotle made the distinction between logic and rhetoric two and a half millennia ago. Understanding this distinction makes it easier to understand everything else. Logic and rhetoric together with grammar make up speech. Your observation is correct, there is logic to positive antibody tests. The fact that this logic is not "acceptable" should be a red flag. Without logic, what is left is rhetoric. Laughing and mocking are instances of rhetoric. Rhetoric is powerful, far more powerful than logic. Use logic to counter logic. Use rhetoric to counter rhetoric. Don't use logic to counter rhetoric. | ||
| Aesquire |
Feel free to make fun of donut makers promoting good health. After all, you're going to really want to reward yourself after a workout with their famous fat/air/sugar special. ( delish! ) Personally, I might not get the mRNA vaccine if I had already recovered from Covid-19, figuring that was the less risky path. I did get the shots, and while I believe I was already exposed months before, I didn't have any evidence, and the antibody test at the time was scarce and restricted to the far more needful, like nurses. A test today would only tell me if the vaccine stimulated antibody production as intended, not if I had naturally acquired immunity. I'll get the flu shot next month when I see my Doc for regular visit. Your body your choice. I do have a card that tells me I have been vaccinated, I don't carry it around, and have no intention of getting a set of Authoritarian Mandated Papers to present to people to let me into anything. OTOH, it's unlikely I'll ever need to, since I don't have a burning desire to go eat in Bloomberg City or other activities that demand a passport. Maybe. Subject to change. I do want to visit HMCS Haida in Hamilton. It's a bit like me boycotting a sport like the NBA just because they are tools of the CCP. It has zero effect, since I wasn't going to give them my money anyway, I'm just not a big enough fan of the sport to care anything about the pro leagues. Ditto Nike doesn't care what I think, I didn't buy their expensive stuff before. Ditto Apple, Pro Sportball, CNN, etc. Ironic that I have to have made stupid choices before to make my choices now matter to marketing. | ||
| Sami |
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio tempts New Yorkers with free fries: "Mmm, vaccinations" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-new-yor k-shake-shack-fries/ Flatten the curve, fatten the belly. | ||
| Ratbuell |
CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese The CDC also has announced that 94% of "covid deaths" had at least 2.9 OTHER FACTORS that contributed to their death. In other words...covid doesn't kill you, it opens the door for OTHER stuff to kill you. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid1 9-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf 151 PAGES of "other causes". For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. Values in the table represent number of deaths that mention the condition listed and 94% of deaths mention more than one condition As for getting covid and recovering? I'll take it. I'd take natural antibodies over the mRNA crap anyday, personally. I'm healthy, I'm not afraid of something that more than 99% of people (of ALL demographics combined) survive. Sick is sick, it happens, you get over it. And that's the whole point. YOU GET OVER IT. This is not a death sentence. This is not Captain Tripps. This is not ebola. Anywhere else in the world, "99%" is AWESOME, it's indisputable, it's as good as it gets! "Kills 99% of germs". "Removes 99% of stains". "Our cheap-ass wireless company connects you to 99% of America". But covid? It's "new math", where apparently 99%+ ISN'T any good. I'm over the whole thing. Have been for over a year now. | ||
| Aesquire |
YOU GET OVER IT. This is not a death sentence. This is not Captain Tripps. This is not ebola. Hopefully, the odds are darn good you will, in fact, recover, unless you are old, fat, diabetic, immune compromised, or attend a Trump rally. ( where, today, the Undercover Agents For the FBI outnumber the "protesters". Why I bet they have a Commie Flag in their garage. ) It's not a death sentence unless you die. Statistics don't matter to the grieving family. Not Captain Tripps, no, Comrade Xi, probably. And certainly not Ebola. It's Worse, for infection rate since it doesn't kill as many or as quickly. I responded to a comment earlier that the Wuhan Coronavirus release 2019 was a "lousy bioweapon", by pointing out it's actually an Awesome one. It doesn't kill so many that it pushes, say Russia, into nuking China into a glass parking lot. If it had a 20% fatality rate, something like the 1918 epidemic, even the peace loving Trump might have been forced to retaliate. It tested the world's health care system in a biowar scenario, and additionally, tested the Authoritarian Power that Commie thugs like Bloomberg would wield when the Real Killer Bug gets released. It also allowed the Chinese Secret Police to judge how well their infiltration of Western nations has been. The WHO, Dr. Fauci, Facebook, Google, all responded just the way they'd love. Only the Aussies and that hated Donald didn't play the game to perfection, and they threatened to nuke & invade Australia, and may have had something to do with the current Occupation besides just bribing the Biden* crime family more than some country's GDP. So as a test weapon, it was very well thought out. I would guess, If I Was Evil, that Plague #2 will be released before the Invasion of Taiwan, which probably will happen after the Chinese 2022 Winter Olympics. In fact, the Olympics offers the PERFECT vector for planetary Biowar. See Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six. ( don't laugh, 9/11/2001 attacks ideas were stolen straight out of a Clancy novel ) Upfront, I'll be VERY happy to be wrong about that prediction. | ||
| Ducbsa |
This is interesting; it may not be so simple for a doc to prescribe the ivermectin on his own. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/w hy_do_doctors_go_along_with_covid_panic_porn_and_c dc_prescriptions.html | ||
| Sami |
Meanwhile, Indian districts have defeated Covid with Ivermectin: 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh are now Covid-free: State govt https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/lucknow-news /33-districts-in-uttar-pradesh-are-now-covid-free- state-govt-101631267966925.html India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part III: The Lesson of Kerala https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists /indias-ivermectin-blackout---part-iii-the-lesson- of-kerala/article_ccecb97e-044e-11ec-9112-2b31ae87 887a.html | ||
| Ratbuell |
I'm NOT overweight, diabetic, or immune compromised. Nor aged. Even if I were, I would still welcome the virus - I've been sick before, it always sucks, but the payoff (natural antibodies) is WELL worth it to me compared to a MORE THAN 99% CHANCE AT RECOVERY. And it should be to anyone else, frankly - THAT is how we reach herd immunity. Keep in mind as well that the (almighty) CDC has published papers and studies that show there are actually between ten and ONE HUNDRED TIMES the number of cases, as what's reported. That's based on antibody tests, and it happens because so many people get the virus, beat it back, never know they had it...because it was never strong enough to even cause symptoms. Ten times as many cases makes the 99.7% recovery rate 99.97%. One HUNDRED times the cases makes the recovery rate 99.997%. That's getting pretty goddamned close to 100%, ain't it?? Seriously - when in life have you NOT jumped at something you had MORE THAN A 99% CHANCE of? "99% chance of winning the lottery" - SIGN ME UP! "99% CHANCE OF WINNING LE MANS" - where's my fire suit? You get the idea yet? You get a 99% chance at anything, you TAKE THAT CHANCE. "statistics don't matter to grieving families" - correct. And there are three MILLION grieving families in this country every year anyway...but we don't lock down the country and steal personal liberties because of THAT. Let's get some perspective here, people...seriously. People die every day, covid or no covid. Do the best you can, while you're here, and that's all you can do. But stop ••••••• with everyone's livelihood, economy, personal liberties, way of life, and mental state because your feelings may get hurt, or because you're scared of some invisible boogeyman because the MSM told you to be. And again - 94% of people who "die from covid", have an average of 2.9 OTHER causes of death. That's a CDC published study, that I posted above. 94% of 0.3% is....0.282%. In other words, the TRUE covid fatality rate (no comorbidities) is 0.018%, meaning a 99.982% recovery rate for otherwise-healthy people. As for the "test run" scenario...I've been speculating about that since day one. You can search old posts here and find that. I don't like the idea, but honestly it's the only one that makes sense. Either that, or it was a mistake to let it out "half-baked", but when it got out they ran with it anyway. Personally, I'd love to see Wuhan turned into a sheet of glass as a lesson to the CCP that you don't •••• with the planet without repercussions...but that'll never happen, especially with Sippy Cup in the White House, deep in China's pocket. But, one can dream. | ||
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| Whisperstealth |
Sippy Cup - That's funny, think I'll use that one myself. | ||
| Aesquire |
Wuhan? No. But you want to be mean to Xi and his terrorist regime, feel free. Orbital kinetic or MOABs, or smaller and more targeted, fine. But it's unfair to pick on the poor subjects of Wuhan. Unfortunately Glorious Leader types tend to be well protected as their victims numbers grow. You just don't walk up to a Cuomo's front door to chat, ditto Xi or Bloomberg. Please understand, I'm all onboard with your contempt for the Covid Fear Exploiters and the lies you've been fed. I'm particularly furious about the thousands that died, and Keep dying, because of restrictions on medicines like HCQ, Invermectin, antibody treatments, created for political purposes. Why couldn't Trump have called for eating Kale as a cure? Woke Karens would erase it from stores and recipe magazines. But I have a hard time convincing folk that a real killer plague that only kills one in a thousand is still a good reason to be concerned, AND that your Masters are exploiting terror and lies, are BOTH truth. It's very forbidden of me to opine I'd rather see you wear a mask while Redacted an Insurrection on Redacted because you don't know if those folk have horrible infectious stuff like Aids and Rabies! A face shield for spatter, too. Safety First in the Revolt! Wash your hands after touching strangers really firmly!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
But it's unfair to pick on the poor subjects of Wuhan. I think its perfectly fair to destroy the lab and all its information and specimens, though. Xi would have no trouble "disappearing" his own citizens...why should we feel guilty about it? | ||
| Aesquire |
the Lab, sure, but killing lots of innocents is a Leftist thing, see Joe* "threatening to nuke" You. Of course, "You" are probably a Vaccine Resister, and White Supremacist, and maybe even ( gasp! ) a Veteran! Obvious the Number One Threat! Besides, Xi doesn't live in Wuhan. That's like attacking Joe* by bombing Buffalo. |
