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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2021 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What? You think you still live in a Constitutional Republic with elected leaders? ( sarcasm, joke, sorta )

You might notice that the Soros front organizations have funneled millions into District Attorney & Judge races and those are the people who directly affect you. Not Constitutional scholars.

It's Those Judges & DAs who decree what laws or Executive Actions & Orders they feel like enforcing. Remember Trump 's order to enforce existing immigration laws Denied by Judges that preferred Barry's Order to not enforce laws at his whim?

So it's probably up to your local government officials to decide to enforce Joe's Decrees. Until Congress passes the current bill to Federalize Law Enforcement.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2021 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Not Constitutional scholars.



Well, seeing as Obama's proposed gun legislation was seen as valid because he's considered a "constitutional scholar," that phrase doesn't mean much these days.

Just like Hillary's "reasonable restrictions" were okay, because it was sexist and bigoted to believe otherwise.

It's unbelievable to me how people can justify such ideas. I'm convinced there's a thriving culture of average intelligence with just enough useless knowledge to think themselves fit to tell everyone else how to live.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2021 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"In the entire United States of America in all of 2017, the feds prosecuted 12 people TOTAL out of probably more than 100,000 people who illegally tried to buy a gun, committing a felony crime while doing so for which the government already has all of the evidence necessary to convict — with 12,710 of those alarming enough that local ATF agents spent even more time on them."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/443427/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2021 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/04/u s_supreme_court_gun_licensing_fees_are_unconstitut ional.html
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2021 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unenforceable/unenforced laws aren't really laws at all. Some people just have an irrational fear of an inanimate object...so here we are.

I'll keep teaching kids that guns are necessary to preserve liberty, and they'll keep telling them that they're evil itself and made only to kill people
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/gov ernor-declares-nebraska-a-second-amendment-sanctua ry-state_3775769.html
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have experience with ELZETTA tactical lights?

If so, what are your thoughts?
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The candlepower forum guys seem to like them.

I've had good luck with Streamlight, Olight, and Surefire...though I recently dropped my Streamlight "macrostream" and it appears that the USB rechargeable battery is toast as a result. Disappointing.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, thanks for the information. My brother is looking for a tactical light for his Mossberg 930, and I told him I'd ask here. Like me, he wants to stick with USA made equipment.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2021 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And also, for those who were wondering, you can get picatinny balls for your gun

Thanks, Google.

The girlfriend's kids were disappointed to not get a gun for Christmas last year...and their dad only has them shooting airguns...so I'm getting them one of deez.


With some minor accessorizing you can make a pretty sweet gun out of it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's hard to beat a break action single shot for initial safety training, and good fun.

I even very like the centerfire versions. Didn't Henry buy the rights to their single?
They tend to be pretty accurate, too. With a scope/sight on the barrel, there's almost nothing to make it not shoot straight, and Henry ( and the previous manufacturer I can't remember ) knows How to make a decent barrel.

The break action in .223 is a great plinker and varmint gun.

Sure, for pretty & pride, I'll take a Ruger #1, but the break actions are highly functional.

I'm watching the C&Arsenal's WW1 small arms series. Serious history and gun geek stuff.

Repeatedly they discuss the requirement that a rifle has a visual cue that it's safed. This is for the times and forces that used volley fire, and otherwise want noncoms and officers to easily see the ready to fire/safe condition of an arm. American practice and training isn't the only way. ( might be best, but I'm biased )

For example, the Henry-Martini has a very obvious cocking indicator. It's a flag for the leaders.

Break action rifles & hammers both offer that range officer safety chances to spot a potential accident.

So, good choice. And certain to be memorable.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re: Ruger #1

I was at a nice gun shop in PA, and my buddy was looking for a .270.

One was a '#1, & I waxed poetically on how much I liked them. He allowed it looked very nice, but ?

I asked to handle it, and just handed it to my buddy & told him to check clear, as I had just done.

He's a retired Marine and Master mechanic, artist, biker, lover of fine machinery... He opens and closes the breach. "Oh, I get it."

Some things are kinesthetic joy.

I almost bought a Ruger #1 Tropical in .458 Winchester Magnum. I regret I talked myself out of a real Rhino/Elephant gun.

(Message edited by Aesquire on April 16, 2021)
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These young boys aren't very gun savvy, and don't seem like the type willing to put much effort into it. If I can teach them safety, handling, and marksmanship on something simple, it'll be a good start.

I entertained an AR-7, but as I'd end up the one maintaining it and feeding it ammunition, that is less than ideal.

I really like the M6 survival, but they are rather heavy and awkward.

This really fits the bill, looks cool, and is very practical. I plan on wrapping the stock, using a BCM VFG as a pistol grip (unfortunately putting it into the evil black rifle category ), wrapping the shell holder so that ammunition can't be easily knocked off, using a metal thread protector, and using some ladder rail covers on the forend.

As far as nice single shot rifles, we had a Schuetzen on the wall at my previous shop which I quite liked.

A little too ornate for my tastes, but I can appreciate the effort.

I told my girlfriend that I was getting her kids the coolest thing they will ever own. She got irate when I wouldn't tell her what
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think some old ideas show promise in new applications...such as a German #1 reticle in a modern scope. It's easy to see without illumination and obscuring the target at range isn't a problem with the external elevation knob.
20210416_073750 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20210416_073641 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

There's nothing wrong with the old fence post.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's lovely.

Yeah, I want/like the AR-7 but for kids the stock is too fat and a semi auto invites burning ammo and a safety issue.

Rail covers and accessories as you like, you might not even want a pistol grip, depending on the kids ergonomics/hand size. I think the relatively light weight a plus too for this mission.

2 questions, which model is that? & I assume the lever in front of the trigger guard is the action lever?

If so, I suggest a training tip. Use the whole hand ( karate blade hand, not a claw hand ) to activate the lever. Train it differently than the trigger. Separate the actions and hand positions to build that muscle memory. A fingers together action has less chance of entering the trigger guard, and works with gun held on target, or pointed down.

I could be wrong! But training should both emphasize stuff like "keep your finger out of the trigger guard, until ready to shoot" & offer a technique that makes it easy. Also low hand strength in small people makes a blade hand/fingers together grip better. Imho ymmv.

( the "modern" safety rules indoctrination I got re: finger off trigger, means that guns with inside trigger guard safeties and may releases make me cringe. I appreciate those controls as being from a different mindset. Like the M1 Garand safety. )
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Gregtonn
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

re: Break action safety.

When I was a kid one of the neighbors was showing his kids how to "get into a loading rhythm" with a Stevens .22/.410 break action.
He didn't fully seat a .22 round and as he brought it up to a firing position while closing the breech the rimfire round went off and blinded him in his right eye.

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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the Chiappa "Little Badger." That is the action release.

The VFG is a small stubby deal. Should work good. I like it


Using the trigger finger is the most expedient method...I'm just going to have to be vigilant that they stay consistent with their trigger discipline.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2021 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





(Message edited by ebutch on April 17, 2021)
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Ebutch
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2021 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2021 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They're going after the imaginary evils of the "ghost gun" and "assault weapon" while attempting to create a culture where the real criminals are seen as victims.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2021 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://9gag.com/gag/a7EoMQr
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2021 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah yes, our modern day useful idiots. They would be idiots.

"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.”

- Ronald Reagan

Nothing like miseducation. They're so deluded that they think we need "re education." Their form of nonsense as the truth and revisionist history is not my thing.

It's just incredible the things people believe as truth, facts, and history these days.
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Chauly
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2021 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I grew up, my hometown of Lexington, MA celebrated today as Patriot's Day, (April 19th, 1775) They still have it as a holiday in MA, but the silly Monday rule makes the date less significant. So when it falls on April 19th, it gets a particular mention from me.
Happy Patriot's Day!
Just remember that "The Shot Heard 'Round the World" was fired against Gun Control. Paul Revere and William Dawes didn't cry out on their midnight ride "The deer are coming, the deer are coming!"
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2021 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The deer are coming, the deer are coming

That's my yard!

I live too close to kids to shoot the deer in my yard with a fire arm. Nevermind laws, it's just common sense and courtesy. But bows and arrows would be fine. That's a false assumption of range and harmless for most people, but in this case, a fair & practical self imposed limit.

I'm too out of practice and slowed by age to try spear. Unfortunately unlike at my buddy's old house by Mendon Ponds Park, the deer in my yard don't ignore me when I move around. At his house they insultingly ignore both barking dogs behind a fence and both of us chatting at his BBQ. We could hit them with thrown rocks.

Otoh, I can sit and drink coffee on my porch and they are well within bow shot.

So anyone who wants a deer, has his permit for NY, and the skill & equipment, is welcome to visit and harvest some lean protein at my house. I can even offer a tree to hang your deer for cleaning and a tarp for the gut pile. ( I'd prefer to leave the unwanted innards further from the house, where the foxes and coyotes can feast in lower stress, oh, and not smell it during my morning coffee.

Can also offer decent coffee. Best times are early morning and dusk.

For hunting. I'll make coffee anytime.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2021 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been a long time since I went hunting but I remember the process.
Varminting you leave what you shot where it lays.
Harvesting you first cut the throat and drop the gutpile before you carry it back to camp.
Lighter that way, I usually removed feet and the head before heading home also.
Cape the carcass before hanging to age for 3-4 days then butcher and wrap.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The ATF is looking to enact rule changes and reinterpretations that expand what legally constitutes a firearm.

They seriously ought to have better things to do...like going after real criminals instead of trying to make more.
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-condemns-leaked -biden-atf-gun-control-plan
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They want the criminals on the street. They want shootings. They need more excuses to take our guns away by using the high crime stats. Their only goal is to disarm America so it can be taken over by the Globalist.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2021 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you really want to know how to fight? You should always have a lighter in the other hand. Find yourself in a fair fight, shame on you.

https://ugetube.com/watch/when-they-roll-up-on-you -at-the-pump_p2uWsNHKCaNRr7c.html
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