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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 05:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2021/03/yamaha-hond a-ktm-and-piaggio-form-consortium-for-standarized- swappable-batteries/
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Originally it was all four Japanese factories. This seems to imply Suzuki and Kawasaki have dropped out. I've felt for awhile that part of the problem with electric motorcycles was every manufacturer going it their own way. Standardization will go a long way to eventually reducing costs and improve competition in the battery market.

This has been discussed ad nauseum on the Electric Motorcycle Forum and one of the big issues most people don't know about is that those lithium batteries are HEAVY. It's not like your 85 year old mother is going to be able to swap batteries without a lot of assistance. Even the relatively small 3.6kWh battery in the Zero FX weighs about 50 lbs so pulling it from the bike to recharge at your desk will take some serious effort.

This is a good FIRST step, though. I see a lot of potential here.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I see a lot of potential here.




That's an energetic response. I did get a charge out of the news, but it isn't all that shocking.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The big heavy battery can be split on multiple small lightweight batteries.
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see what you did there, Crusty
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Shoggin
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The big heavy battery can be split on multiple small lightweight batteries."

Is that supposed to be funny? Because thats really funny.

We could give them names like the old AA, AAA, C system? Like maybe call them 18650 and have about 3.2 volts a piece? Ya, thats sounds about right...: )
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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We could give them names like the old AA, AAA, C system? Like maybe call them 18650 and have about 3.2 volts a piece? Ya, thats sounds about right...




Technically, those are CELLS, not batteries...
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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That's an energetic response. I did get a charge out of the news, but it isn't all that shocking.




Understandably, there is also some resistance to this idea.
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Normthenomad
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoping I live long enough to ride an LS218,
by Lightning, currently the fastest production motorcycle.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad to see we have some current news here.



(Message edited by Hughlysses on March 03, 2021)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Understandably, there is also some resistance to this idea.

I lack the capacity to understand all this.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But this thread has quite a draw, for those who wish to keep current.
It will improve what has up till now been a tough cell ...
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, of all the people here, I thought you'd really get a charge out of it.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2021 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if I should buy one. I'd have to charge it to my credit card and I'm really resisting that. Still, I feel pretty amped up.
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