| Author | Message | ||
     Gian4 |
Hey all Just watched Lindell's video on the election. I'm not a tin foil hat guy but it appears like he presents credible evidence that "irregularities" occurred to a significant degree. The fact that presenting and discussing information like this is crushed is very disturbing. I'm not saying all this evidence and all the allegations are gospel but it at least warrants a proper nonpartisan vetting. Just saying. Gian4 https://michaeljlindell.com/ | ||
| 86129squids |
You said "nonpartisan".     | ||
| Jaimec |
Or, as Dominion Systems and Smartmatic would like to call it: "Exhibit A." | ||
| Gian4 |
Look. I'm not saying that all that was presented both in Lindell's piece or from other sources is correct. What I'm saying is it seems credible enough to be investigated. The only way the country can move on is if these allegations are settled. Also could be exhibit A at the impeachment trial. Just saying. Gian4 | ||
| Greg_e |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scqLliarGpM&t=2350 s&ab_channel=JeffMiddleton The guide into the future. | ||
| H0gwash |
I stopped watching after 37 minutes and scanned ahead after recognizing Phil Waldron and Russel Ramsland, whose testimony has already been discredited by Georgia and Michigan courtrooms. Other guests include Dr Shiva Ayyadurai, Patrick Colbeck, Melissa Carone, Matt DePerno, Mary Fanning, Gen Thomas McInerney and Terry Turchie. All of these people have already been discredited by the courts who heard their evidence, or else they did not provide evidence and only conjecture. There is no new evidence here, it is a collection of numbers which are said to be true, and a lot of conjecture. It's all legal to say when you're outside of a courtroom. IMHO just wait to see what happens with the Dominion and Smartech court cases. That result will tell you the truthfulness of this video. | ||
| Ratbuell |
They logged into a machine, through a wifi thermostat, while everyone watched. ...but the machines are safe and secure... (Message edited by ratbuell on February 05, 2021) | ||
| Needs_o2 |
HOgwash__________  _______ MUST RESIST.....THE POWER OF THE GOOD SIDE | ||
| Gian4 |
HOGwash From my reading the cases that have been dismissed were based on process and procedure not on the strength of evidence. The 2 cases where evidence was presented are still proceeding through state courts. Gian4 | ||
| H0gwash |
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/fact_check_ georgia_senate_masquerades_failed_treasure_hunter_ as_hacker_and_election_security_expert “…(ATLANTA)-Yesterday, during a Georgia State Senate hearing, failed treasure hunter, J. Hutton Pulitzer, or Commander Pulitzer (no record of military experience), claimed that he had “hacked” Georgia’s voting system. The treasure hunter provided no evidence during the Senate hearing that he had done so, only claiming it had happened.” Later in the article: "In a statement, poll pad creator KnowInk said: “The assertions made about unauthorized access to our systems are patently false. The man claiming that someone ‘got into’ our systems did not happen according to our forensic analysis. There was no ‘hack,’ there was no ‘back door’ entry, there was no ‘pump and dump,’ and there was no access through a ‘thermostat’ located hundreds of miles away in Savannah.” NOTE- I am not saying the machines weren't hacked, only there doesn't seem to be a record of Pulitzer responding to these accusations that the access never happened. | ||
| Gian4 |
It's one thing to say and another to show it. All I'm saying is that we need to go through each accusation and not just say it's a lie but show it's a lie. In Georgia the accusations of vote fraud go far beyond machine hacking. Just saying. Gian4 | ||
| H0gwash |
I've been pursuing the individual accusations and have found they are generally without supporting evidence. Not all of them. Trump did win 1 or 2 of the approx 60 cases he filed. Trump's cases that were dismissed were generally dismissed because they filing was wrong, AND the claims were not backed by evidence. The requirement for proper filing in the lower courts first was sometimes done to verify the claims Trump was making. | ||
| Shoggin |
I am breaking my 'no politics with strangers' rule for this one, so don't beat me up too badly  : I am pragmatist in life, so I walk the line between todays political extremes. That doesn't;t make my views "Evil" if you disagree with them. They are simply opinions and we can still be friends if we disagree. "The two cases"?? Oh gee, talk about hanging by a thread. Am I the only one with a memory?? 2000 when we waited over a month for the Governor of Florida (GW Bushs BROTHER) to re-count Floridas "hanging chads" until Bush 'won' over Gore by just 537 popular votes? (total in the NATION) and resulting in a "Major electoral reform In Florida" . Al Gore still bowed out gracefully. 2004 GWB second term barely won by only 0.7% of the popular vote and Ohio's electoral vote is STILL in question today (17 years ago!), but still John Kerry made the call and bowed out gracefully. We got a break for awhile, Love him or hate him it was clearly Obamas day in both 2008 (10 million more votes and flipping 9 red states to blue) and again in 2012 a second term with another unarguable landslide. Surely you all remember The Evil Hillary winning 2.1% MORE of the popular vote in the 2016 loss to DT? BUT she also made the call and gracefully bowed out. You can't tell me no one remembers Russians!?! 2020 DT loses by over 7 MILLION votes and incites a riot. I don't care what anyones politics are. Thats embarrassing for EVERY USA CITIZEN, no matter what hat you wear. We all agree there was fraud We all agree the machines can be (or were) hacked. We all agree the election wasn't perfect. We have a imperfect system, but heres the kicker: I would ASSUME that if there was "Tremendous proof" of "Tens of millions of cases of voter fraud" claimed by The DT himself, more than the 1,071 (to 1275 depending on the source) proven fraud cases would have been found by now. If I missed that happening on the news then hey, theres only 7,051,699 left to go, so it's gonna be awhile. OR Shut UP, pack up, get out of the house, and let our country move on for Christs sakes!! Theres a freaking pandemic going ON! The economy is crumbling, foreign relations are a disaster. The PEOPLE you swore to govern need help and your time is DONE. Is Biden "not my President??" (lol) thats FINE, be sure to vote in 4 years. (Message edited by shoggin on February 05, 2021) | ||
| Gian4 |
Hog and Shoggin OK...Hilary did not move on her minions undermined a presidency for 3yrs. The up ending of state election laws and election safe guards under the guise of covid did more to undermine this democracy then all the Russian/Chinese bots combined. Election integrity procedures are not in place for the winners. They are there so the losers will except the results lick their wounds and move on. This was lost in this election and unless the process is looked at honestly and objectively my fear is that this democracy will not survive a repeat. Just saying. Gian4 | ||
| H0gwash |
https://www.vox.com/2021/2/5/22268492/mike-lindell -absolute-proof-oan-election-fraud The two-hour special, ironically titled “Absolute Proof,” is "presented at this time as opinions only and not intended to be taken or interpreted by the viewer as established facts." (Message edited by h0gwash on February 05, 2021) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/05/deli ngpole-presidential-election-wasnt-rigged-it-was-f ortified-says-time-magazine/ What is certain is there is no Proof that Harris/Biden* won. No audits, recounts, or court cases that show arguments were seen by millions. No long process where folk argued on tv like the Gore loss. ( yeah, he lost, the newspapers in Florida got a full recount, not the cherry picked one Gore wanted, and the results stood ) Nope. We got a 3 phase stfu. 1. No fraud stfu. 2. A little, of course, but not enough to matter, stfu. 3. It's too late now, stfu. And now 4. If you say there was fraud or it should be investigated, you will be Cancelled. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/05/micr osoft-suspends-donations-to-gop-members-who-object ed-to-election-results/ In phase 5 you just never existed. You'll know that one because I'll be mentioning people you never heard of with outlandish names like Lincoln, Jefferson, Pence, and Goldstein.  | ||
| Patches |
Mike Lindell is Jesse Ventura brother | ||
| Oldog |
I watched this there were a couple of times I wish Mike would have been quiet and let the guest speak. But I understand why he was excited. I was not too moved until the log file was displayed, the graphic was neat but of little use to me. I would like to have had some static displays of the contested state counts and their sources. looks like there were a lot of things that needed to be taken into account or better explained. I plan on telling my reps and senators that I expect to see state & federal fix and better security by next election or you will not get my vote.. as for the democrats, I will watch and bide my time, for now.  | ||
| 86129squids |
Thanks for sayin and very well put, Shogs. My fervent hopes and prayers go to the Republican party, that they somehow get back to being the Grand Old Party, not just a bunch of Trump Dittoheads... AND WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS. BOTH parties really must find a way, forward, together. This current day and age of institutionalized gridlock instead of true government is just pathetic. | ||
| Ratbuell |
...work with the party that declares "agree with us or we'll cancel you"? No, thank you. They aren't about unity...they're about control. Wake up, Brad. Your party doesn't care about you, they only care about themselves. The rest of us are only pawns, moved around, bought and sold...to line their pockets and keep themselves in power. Squashing the Hunter Biden scandal is a prime example of how they swayed the election - 4.7% of Biden voters now say they wouldn't have voted for him, if they knew about the scandal. But, since a complicit media (mass, and social) squashed any mention of the story, nobody knew about it before the election. 4.7% may not sound like a lot...but it's more than enough to have changed the election outcome. Proof they don't care about Americans? Opening the borders back up. You work in foodservice - think you'll keep your job, when bosses are presented with an influx of cheap, alien labor? Same for manufacturing - employers in all industries will be FORCED to pay legal Americans $15/hour very soon. The workaround? Hire the illegals. Unreported, they can get away with paying less. Which means Americans get the shaft, because employers want the "best deal" they can get for their labor. I'm all for immigration...but do it the right way. LEGALLY. Don't take jobs, and tax money, away from legal Americans. And, immigration is only one plank in your party's platform. But, it's likely the one that hits closest to home for you, so I figured it might get you thinking. Maybe. It isn't about Unity. It isn't about Americans. It isn't about you, and I, succeeding in life. They don't give a shit about that. ALL it's about, is them putting themselves in power, locking it in, and keeping their pockets full. We had one candidate who WAS about Americans. He WAS about you and I succeeding. He WASN'T about fattening his own wallet while abusing his power - and that upset the status quo, and we see what happened to him. The first thing that needs to change is, Government needs to rethink their reason for existing. They do not have "power" over us - THEY REPRESENT US. THEY are supposed to do what WE want. The one man who "got" that, was run out of town by big tech, big media, and hundreds of millions of dollars invested (by tech, by media, and by enemy nations like the CCP) in destroying our nation. So, no. I won't "work with" those people. Ever. | ||
| Jaimec |
 Agree 100% with squids (and I don't think it's stupid). (Message edited by jaimec on February 07, 2021) | ||
| 86129squids |
"Wake up, Brad. Your party doesn't care about you, they only care about themselves." "My" party? I aint claiming EITHER. If the R side can produce candidates I feel are worthy of my vote, fine. Buy some other color paints besides just red and blue to paint me with, bro. This Us and Them thing we're all doing is just pathetic. Worth a listen... I sent a few of you a copy of this disc. (The whole recording is awesome BTW.) (Message edited by 86129squids on February 07, 2021) | ||
| Shoggin |
I don't 'belong' to a party either. And thats the WORST way to look at things. 'But but but YOU are on the other team!' Fingers in ears "nanananana not listeniinnnggg" . C'mon man. That kind of divisive, derisive, mentality is what got us here, and IMO we have some room for improvement. I love my country, but my eyes are open. A few of us on here are preaching for American UNITY. Ya it's hippie crap but how can anyone claim patriotism without unity? At least it's clear hypocrisy is alive and well. We know what we get when we fight amongst ourselves, how about we try the other way for awhile? We'll need your help too, even if we disagree. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Anyone who voted for, or supported, this geriatric piece of shit dictator who's in the oval office right now is part of the problem. Regardless of "party". If you're not smart enough to see what's wrong with this country's "leaders"; if you're not smart enough to see what's wrong with the current group's practice of ruling through decree, and completely bypassing the Legislative and Judicial branches of our government; if you aren't smart enough to see what the result will be from us throwing open the doors to our nation to anyone who can crawl in, all the while keeping our citizens locked down and unable to work or lead a normal, productive life; if you aren't smart enough to see the hypocrisy of a group who wants to take MY guns and YOUR guns away, and take away a wall at our BORDER, but surround themselves with tens of thousands of armed troops and miles and miles of new walls throughout a city YOU AND I OWN (Washington, DC, is not a state; it is not it's own entity - it belongs to the citizens of the United States of America); if you aren't smart enough to see what they're doing to YOU and to ME... if you aren't smart enough to see that it doesn't matter what "party" label they wear... You're part of the problem. You don't get a pass because we both like motorcycles. You don't get a pass because we both like music. And you certainly won't get a pass, when they start pounding on doors. "Reeducation camps" "Reprogramming" Censorship. "Hate speech". They're talking about this stuff OPENLY. What, in God's name, do you honestly think will come next? I'll give ya a hint - it's in the history books. One man from outside the cabal, had the balls and the resources to get elected, and to start making a difference. That one man has them all scared to death, and THAT is why they're so off-the-rocker-crazy right now. That one man made the mistake of wearing one of the mainstream labels - "Republican" - because his ideals aligned closer to what the Republican Party was SUPPOSED to be - but as we can see, both parties are full of shit. And that one man was rousted by propaganda, and conspiracies between big industry, big tech, big media, and the political swamp, precisely BECAUSE he was making a difference.  This all started before Donald J. Trump was elected President. Crucifying him was only a means to an end - an end that he (and his supporters) had the nerve to interrupt for four years. I don't see this as a "you versus me" situation. There are people who support this country...and people who don't. Labels don't matter - ACTIONS matter. I have a feeling all our hands will be forced. Soon. The choice isn't "left" or "right"...the choice is, "problem"? Or "solution"? | ||
| Aesquire |
My fervent hopes and prayers go to the Republican party, that they somehow get back to being the Grand Old Party, not just a bunch of Trump Dittoheads... AND WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS. BOTH parties really must find a way, forward, together. This current day and age of institutionalized gridlock instead of true government is just pathetic. In somewhat reverse order... I'll take gridlock over letting rich guys get everything they want to pay back their bribes. Most of the Congresscritters are rich. And take massive bribes. Working with Democrats means giving them what they want. That's all. Why? You don't have to agree with my cynicism about gridlock, but you do have to admit that in today's context, Cooperation means The Ruling Party Gets Everything. As to the Republican Party? Few were Trump fans. The Establishment Republicans hate Donald more than anyone else! They didn't get their chosen guy, Jeb, or any other Republican Party minion, they got Trump because CNN etc. for over a year ignored them and went for the short sound bite for ratings. There are a LOT of folk who had my attitude, though few dared rile others. I didn't like Trump. I never liked his schtick. his persona, his rudeness. I didn't watch his show, I didn't read his twits, and I could care less what his trophy wife wore. BUT, I did enjoy him roasting the press, who deserve nothing but contempt. I did get a roughly 25% increase in my retirement account, under Trump, while I got F%^& All during the Obama years. There is new hope in the middle East for peace between everyone who is threatened by Iran, and there was a chance that all telephone and internet traffic would not go directly to Xi, but he'd need to get it from Alphabet. Those last 2 may have been reversed last month. Both the Mullahs and God king Xi of CCP occupied China luv the current occupiers in D.C. Sure, the editorials at American Thinker were Trump Fans, often unrealistic ones. But National Review and others never were, and actively opposed him the entire time. So the notion that "Republicans" are brainwashed Trumpites is propaganda from the DNC. As is the ongoing character assassination of every adult who didn't vote for the old lying sack that hid in his basement and went back to bed by 9am as White Supremacist Terrorists. Don't buy the lies. | ||
| 86129squids |
That's one helluva bear-trap mind you've got there my friend. Dang, Joe... love you too. | ||
| Ebutch |
86129hegel  | ||
| 86129squids |
!!!!!!!! ???????? Did I just see that? | ||
| 86129squids |
One last post... Hey Jackass EBeaatch. Lern2 spel, befur I see your dumbasisss in Hell. | ||
| Sami |
Shoggin: "I am pragmatist in life, so I walk the line between todays political extremes." So you are a Nazi. (this is a joke, my point is that if you are to the right of the Left, then in their eyes you are a Nazi by default). "be sure to vote in 4 years." Be sure to watch these videos: Why Electronic Voting is a BAD Idea - Computerphile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI Why Electronic Voting Is Still A Bad Idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs Don't be naive, Shoggin. I was naive a few weeks ago for thinking that election fraud won't succeed. (Message edited by Sami on February 08, 2021) |
