| Author | Message | ||
     Sami |
Why Feminism Wants to Dismantle the Family https://medium.com/@NikitaCcoulombe/why-feminism-w ants-to-dismantle-the-family-long-4695d45bcf88 I've said before that three things are most important in life: God Nation Family Feminism aims to dismantle the family. Luckily, Corona virus dismantled feminism. God works in mysterious ways. | ||
| Sami |
The Coronavirus Is a Disaster for Feminism https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/ 2020/03/feminism-womens-rights-coronavirus-covid19 /608302/ Coronavirus: More Men Die, Women Most Affected https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1_B9ICpzP8 The Coronavirus Is A DISASTER For Feminism, It Is Being Erased https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwdHOuHlFUM | ||
| Aesquire |
I was raised to be a feminist, old school. Which has only a superficial resemblance to the "abortion is our primary focus" movement that took that name, like the word Liberal was stolen. I'm also an olde school Liberal, which had it's name stolen by leftists, then, after right/center pundits made Liberal a dirty word, they made up "Progressive", which is a Regressive political movement, being authoritarian dedicated to consolidating all power in a small, self appointed elite. Liberal, as in Western Liberal Civilization, is a true progressive movement away from hereditary aristocracy given authority by the Grace of God. ( or the approval of the Organized Church, sometimes by literally outlawing the old Church, and creating a captive, owned State Religion. See Henry VIII. ) Possibly the best treatment of the split between constrained and unconstrained visions of humanity. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqUiE-vJ-64 But, back to feminism. As a positive movement, the ideal is to remove & reject the old system where if you are a woman, you are property. First, of your Father, ( until age of consent/maturity ) then your husband. The assertion is that male or female, you are a human equal in the eyes of the law. I see no reason to reject that equality. But I AM aware that with self ownership, you lose the free ride that comes with slavery. Once you reach adulthood, and move out on your own, women had to assume the same responsibility for their own survival as men. This observation is a Heresy to the Left. Which lies that Freedom is Slavery, ( see 1984 ) Leftism rejects the notion of individual responsibility, as it does individual rights. But, being dishonest, it pretends rights can be had, by an Adult, without responsibility, by, in part, declaring that you have a right to the labor of others. BY theft of the names of good, modern, movements of freedoms and equality, and the perversion of the goals of the movements they appropriated, into the exact opposite of the noble, original goals, the evil forces in mankind seek to steal EVERYTHING. Thus feminist goals, equal legal rights for all, respect of each other, have become the demands for privilege over others, and embedded hostility to all others. Which serves the evil goal of dividing us into easily manipulated groups to be lifted against each other, as the evil men and women gain power. It's not a coincidence that the same Party in the U.S. that defended slavery, then created the Klu Klux Klan as it's terrorist action arm against the trees slaves after the Civil War, wrote and passed the Jim Crow laws, became converted to Marxist ideology, now considers all Citizens to be their Slaves. Over a century of trying to eliminate the second amendment, restrict individual property rights, and demand privilege without responsibility... "naturally" are the same people who insist that sex with a man & women is rape. And murdering your unborn baby is free of responsibility . That modern "feminists" support Sharia movements that impose a pre-medieval system of ownership of women shows how perverted the subject has become. Same bad guys. A Legion of lies. | ||
| Aesquire |
Which is a long winded way of saying I agree with you but it pi$$es me off, because the theft of the labels makes you opposed to what should be a noble cause. | ||
| Blake |
The Leftists require redefinition of language to have their way. So lately though they've painted themselves into a corner. They want to protect and defend women's rights, but also want to affirm that men can become women. Choose your gender is all the rage now. Then they're alarmed at the escalating teen suicide rate. How to subvert a free and prosperous society. Straight from the playbook of the KGB and brought to you by hordes of useful idiots and bootlicking Leftist sycophants in the press. It even happens within evangelical web forums whose mission is to share the gospel and the reasons for it's veracity. | ||
| Sami |
We are living in times of (mass) deception, but also in times of (mass) revelation. So many things are being revealed at such a high rate that it is hard to keep up with things. Light is the best disinfectant, which explains why the Left cannot handle the light of truth. They have to lie, because there is no truth in them. Blake, I agree that they steal labels and redefine them to suit their narrative. Using different definitions is why it has become difficult for Leftists to understand anyone who isn't a Leftist. They live in a world of lies, a Legion of lies is a good way to phrase it, Aesquire. I'll post an article soon on how Leftists redefine language. | ||
| Sami |
How Liberals Abuse Language https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2018/03/how -liberals-abuse-language-shannon-holzer-timeless.h tml | ||
| Sami |
Coronavirus is turning badass NYC women into housewives https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/coronavirus-is-turni ng-badass-nyc-women-into-housewives/ | ||
| Sami |
Ducbsa posted this link somewhere else, I'll repost it here because I think it is relevant: Feminist Theorist Wants to Use COVID-19 Crisis to 'Abolish the Family' https://pjmedia.com/columns/paula-bolyard/2020/05/ 07/feminist-theorist-wants-to-use-covid-19-crisis- to-abolish-the-family-n388685 | ||
| Patches |
Simple questions to ask... What is the "Natural Use" of a Woman? Romans 1:26, KJV 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: | ||
| Sami |
Patches, Leftist philosophy is based upon redefining language, also known as Constructivism. On Leftist philosophy, women are a construct, men are a construct, truth is a construct, beauty is a construct, the good is a construct. By making these things into constructs, the Left can redefine them to suit their political agenda. A quote from "How Liberals Abuse Language": While there are more definitions than the essential and nominal types, it is around these two types that most of the political sleight of hand takes place. Why is it that I believe that the liberal left is guiltier of linguistic trickery?[8] It is because many of the liberal elite deny that such things as essences actually exist. [...] [9] Many elites have embraced the Constructivism of Post Modernity. With this, meaning is not discovered, it is constructed. Truth, thus, becomes relative. See, Eva T.H. Brann, “What is Postmodernism”, The Harvard Review of Philosophy (Spring 1992).[9] It is important to know that Liberals and Conservatives do not speak the same language. Although they use the same words, those words themselves do not have the same meaning. Liberals more often use what the article calls "linguistic trickery", i.e. the redefinition of language. Redefining language makes it next to impossible for anyone to reach a common ground with the Left. The moment you reach a common ground with the Left, they will redefine language and the common ground is lost. A philosophy based upon redefining language is like a house built on sand. It will not stand against the wind and the rain. To keep out the wind and the rain, i.e. to keep out criticism, the Left uses censorship. Criticism erodes their philosophy built on sand, and that they cannot tolerate. | ||
| Patches |
Sorry Sami, I was looking for an answer from a biblical perspective. | ||
| Sami |
Women by nature are nurturers and caretakers of the family, men by nature are providers and protectors of the family. | ||
| Patches |
Sami, Is that the Word of God or word of man? | ||
| Sami |
That is mine. When the word of man corresponds with the Word of God, that is called truth. | ||
| Aesquire |
Can't give you a perspective written by monks 400 years ago, translating 2000 year old writings. But I'll point to Legertha, the real or tv version, for my view on natural use. | ||
| Macbuell |
Maybe it's because i am attracted to strong women that are still attractive/ sexy, but that woman, holy smokes. | ||
| Patches |
Everyone is living in a Fantasy World, that is the problem. No One Believes what is Real Anymore. Genesis 3:1 KJV Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Lucifer was the first to say "I will not have Man rule over me". | ||
| Sami |
But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11:3 Feminism flips this on its head, so that women are made the head of man. This is most unnatural, and women know this. Unhappiness is the result of acting against one's nature. Women are most happy when they act in accordance with their nature. The same is true of men, men are most happy when they act in accordance with their nature. Nature is what is being denied by feminism. On feminism, there is no such thing as nature, rather there are only constructs. If that were the case, then what explains the fact that, for example, nurses are predominantly women? What explains that, for example, plumbers are predominantly men? I could go on giving examples, but it's clear that our nature plays a large part in what our interests are. Constructivism does not explain these differences between sexes consistently. | ||
| Aesquire |
While I agree that Toxic Feminists aka Feminazis ( coined, or at least promoted by Rush L ) are nuts, and a threat to men uncertain of their sexuality, I simply don't buy the "men are the head of woman" patriarchal Bronze age old bitter Jewish dude thinking. Especially when 40 seconds observation shows it's an illusion. In the real world, the wives run reality in Orthodox households far more than a bunch of monks or Kings think. The Feminazis take attitudes to the opposite idiot extreme. Woman is equal to man, ( in rights ) is reasonable. Women is the Same as Man, is wrong. We are Gloriously different. Legertha is a character in a tv show, and that's fantasy. But based upon a historical figure, ( which are often, if not always, fantastically hyped ) who did, like the tv version, fight and rule at the highest level. ( we'll ignore the tv show's history sins. Tv is like that. Story vs. Boring reality. See also every other history/political thriller. West Wing and Outlander and Vikings are roughly equivalent in the Fantasy scale. The latter 2 are more accurate on religion and the broad sweep of history, imho. ) I'll let you guys argue the problems of the Bible and sexes. Not my thing. But if you want to pick on Feminazi paranoid fantasies re: television, let me point to The Handmaid's Tale, a 1985 book that spins Religious Patriarchal Oppression horror in a modern age. Essentially 1984 with lots of rape. | ||
| Sami |
But it isn't Jewish thinking. The Greeks also have a similar understanding, so do the Persians and the Egyptians and the Indians and on and on. My observation has been that households where the wives run reality ("matriarchy") are unstable in many ways. There is more cheating and divorce is high, just to name two. Perhaps those monks and Kings were onto something. The Handmaid's Tale describes Islam and the author loved rape fantasies. Another feminist rape fantasy is Fifty Shades of Grey. Another observation of mine has been that feminists are ugly people. I have yet to see a beautiful feminist. Perhaps that explains why feminists fantasise about rape so much, that is the only way they can have sex which in turn makes them bitter towards men. Bitterness makes for ugly people. "We are Gloriously different." I agree. | ||
| Patches |
Feminism is nothing more than the religion of Antichrist. Lagertha story is based on Norse mythology another pagan Antichrist religion. The questions asked, "What is the Natural Use of a Woman?" is not taught in churches anymore. | ||
| Sami |
Many churches today have become liberalised, some more than others. Liberal theology does not teach many things that classical theology teaches. The question, "What is the natural use of a woman?" is a classical question. The classical answer would be that the natural use of a woman is to bear children. When women abandon child bearing, that is, when women abandon their natural use, society falls apart. The reason being that children are the "glue" that keeps society together. The liberal answer would be that "woman" is a construct (see Constructivism), hence there is no natural use of a woman. | ||
| Patches |
Woman was made to be an "Help Meet" for the Man. Conception is only part of the natural use of a woman. Gen 2:18 - 22 KJV 18. And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 21. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22. And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. Gen 2:18 KJV 16. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Aesquire |
Natural Use? Gee, if you wanted to create a phrase to make a modern gal react poorly, that's a good one. I'll blame it on old British monks & a King. I'm sure it read much better in a candle lit patriarchy. The better way to phrase it might be, "What is the natural role of a woman?" "Help Meet" or help mate is one not bad answer. The punishment for listening to the Serpent sure seems like an excuse some old guy thought up. "Why does it hurt so much?" "uh, the first women Torqued off God, so blame it on her, not me" The Bible is wonderful for finding an excuse to pay taxes or murder people, and save lives and do charity. It's all in there, if you look hard enough and spin it fast. The real Problem with "Feminism" is probably the misconception of the idea of Equality. “Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick. What they are and what they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear. They should never settle merely for equality. For women, "equality" is a disaster.” ― Robert A. Heinlein A few other quotes that might apply... A prude is a person who thinks that his own rules of propriety are natural laws. A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot. Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. | ||
| Patches |
When there is no natural use of a woman. https://www.bitchute.com/video/0gCUoiHqvzwG/ | ||
| Sami |
Patrick, I think we are way past the point of no return when it comes to not making modern gals react poorly. "Role" is derived from "use", granted that the latter is unacceptable to modern ears. We can use them interchangeably from now, unless we want to split hairs. I definitely understand the emphasis on using words that are acceptable to modern gals, but we should avoid diminishing returns. If we prioritise what is acceptable over what is accurate, then we may end up with neither acceptability nor accuracy. Old British monks and a King, are you referring to King James or King Henry? The real problem is not the misconception of the idea of Equality, rather the real problem is the idea of Equality. Yes, Equality is a disaster, but it is a disaster because Equality is irrational. | ||
| Sami |
Patches/Sims, it's true that conception is only part of the natural use of a woman. My point is that it is an essential part. After all, women conceive, not men. Bearing children is not essential to men. Being a help mate means that man is head of woman. Do you agree? | ||
| Patches |
Conception for Man & Woman. Woman cannot conceive without the Man. "Be fruitful, and multiply," was the first Commandment of God. Genesis 1:28 KJV 28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Children are a gift onto God. Psalms 127:3 - 5 KJV 3. Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward. 4. As arrows [are] in the hand of a mighty man; so [are] children of the youth. 5. Happy [is] the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Essential part of Man & Woman. Deuteronomy 6:5 KJV 5. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Joshua 24:15 KJV 15. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Helpmate is a person who supplies help or companionship. (Any Combination Thereof) Helpmeet is a helpful partner, particularly a spouse. (Husband & Wife) Genesis 2:24 KJV 24. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Man is head of Woman. 1 Cor 11:3 - 16 KJV 3. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God. 4. Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7. For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. 9. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10. For this cause ought the woman to have power on [her] head because of the angels. 11. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12. For as the woman [is] of the man, even so [is] the man also by the woman; but all things of God. 13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? 14. Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 15. But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering. 16. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. Woman is not permitted to Judge or Rule over Man. Man & Woman not Equal. 1 Tim 2:12 - 15 KJV 11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. |
