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Author Message   Greg_e Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2020 - 11:11 pm:        Just discovered this story today, seems Harley is pressuring a YouTube creator to take down one or !ore videos, or they are going to cause difficulty to his friends who own the local dealership. Still gathering details, but it looks pretty $#!++y on the surface. https://youtu.be/-T7LSBnenYE Check the comments, another big Harley based channel seems to have had issues in the recent past as well. Anyone know anything first hand about this?   Tpehak Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 03:34 am:        Like I always said avoid Harley Davidson on any cost.   Two_seasons Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 09:34 am:        You can definitely feel the sea change of why you own a harley around here. Hasn't been sudden, but over the last several years there is definitely been a pulling back on brand loyalty. Seems like h-d is now chasing the wind!   Gusm2 Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 10:06 am:        https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2020/septemebe r/harley-davidson-sportster-discontinued-europe/ Not good for business here either   Tpehak Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 12:09 pm:        So they designed that sportster engine in mid 1980s and still have not sorted out all this engine troubles.   Shoggin Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 01:08 pm:        It can't meet the new Euro 5 regulations, now H-D has not a single 'entry level' motorcycle to sell in Europe. Where they ride 80% sub 500cc motorcycles Or India, the largest motorcycle market in the world. They only sell Snakes and Sparklers. Happy 4th of July   Ourdee Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 03:04 pm:        I don't like snakes and sparklers.   Court Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 03:44 pm:        My personal opinion is that Erik Buell could have had them on the top of the heap today.   Two_seasons Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 05:02 pm:        I agree Court. The demo's changed and h-d did not...except for their lateness to the smaller India made motorcycles. I also agree that there is a great need to smaller cc motorcycles today. I'd be happy being the male counterpart to Itchy Boots these days.(the way Wisconsin roads are going, riding on the dirt might be smoother! ) Riding a bicycle is very dangerous around here.   Crusty Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2020 - 05:05 pm:        You are not the only person on this forum with that opinion. Maybe the shoe salesman will turn things around, but I have very little hope of that happening.

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