I understand the knee-jerk reaction, but...that could get us ALL in trouble.
Red Flag - he's a progressive, take his guns. He's a danger to himself and others.
Red Flag - he's a conservative, take his guns. He's a danger to himself and others.
Red Flag - he refuses to worship at the altar of The Squad, take his guns. He's a danger to himself, others, and to our vision of a new, Socialist Amerika.
Knee-jerk reactions aside, would this be an opportunity to take the moral high ground, and stand on the position of self-defence? Granted, there was a disparate use of force, but had the roles been reversed and one of "us" had been maced, might many of us also reply with an escalation? Just posit'ing...
I would want to know, what started the conflict in the first place?
A "war of words", or a conflict in beliefs, should not have escalated in this manner in my mind. Granted, I was not there...but to go from 10' apart, to mace and gunfire? Something's going on that we aren't privy to just yet.
Unfortunately though...I think we're going to see more and more of this with the combative, insulting attitudes in general these days. Rational discourse is a thing of the past, it seems.
Even people who are 100% in the right when defending themselves using deadly force...
...wait for it...
...have their guns confiscated and are often taken into custody. For questioning. Normal part of the process.
That is a F-D up process. Nobody wants to be a part of the process. Not you, me, or the officers involved...
But especially not you.
If you even let somebody see that you have a gun, you better be the first one to call 911. In that way, you can at least put the beginning of the narrative in your control.
In my humble opinion, the best thing to do is to get the hell out of wherever you are - or whatever situation you're in - the one that makes you even THINK about taking out a gun.
It really and truly needs to be a last line of defense, and never an offense.
Run the hell away. Look like a pussy, who cares? Your life will be so, so, so, soooo much easier.
If you have a gun, use it. If you will run away the criminals will act just worst. Running away you allow them to treat you harder. It is not about how you look like.
“If you even let somebody see that you have a gun, you better be the first one to call 911”
Fact. If you call, you’re the good guy. If the other guy calls, you’re the man with a gun the cops are responding to. My firearm safety course instructor told me that, and the folks at Texas Law Shield confirmed it.
Categorically disagree with ignorant criminally stupid defense opinion of fool.
Advice sure to get you deserved prison time. (1)
Oh, I'm all for disproportionate response. In foreign policy. Jacksonian attitude!
And in personal defense matters, disproportionate in proper context. You kick my shin, I'm not justified by any sane standard to stab you with a knife. You're in a mob that knocked me down and are kicking me to death? Different story.
Responsible Citizens and Adults don't use deadly force except to protect life. There's a grey area in robbery, and the laws vary quite a bit. In general, unless you're actually involved in a robbery, you shouldn't assume force is justified. Guy running in a hoodie? Fitness idiot or looter? Are you sure? Neighbor's kid? Mistakes are permanent and tragic.
(1) Translation: "really stupid and evidence that could be used to convict you of premeditated murder."
"It almost makes one wonder if the "security guard" who sure as heck wasn't doing security for the reporters the way normal security guards do, was actually some kind of protection-racket goon."
If you have a gun, use it. If you will run away the criminals will act just worst.
That's completely retarded. Why not just go stand outside the prison and ask to be let in? Tell them you want protective custody while you're at it... see where that gets you. Hint: It's not what it sounds like.
The bad guy comes into my house uninvited and I'll harvest him like a November deer.
Better make sure nobody sees him enter your house or ever know that he was in there. You'll need to cut him up in small pieces and deposit them in various storm drains. And, make sure that zero blood gets anywhere. At the worst, you'll be criminally prosecuted after the DA considers all the evidence (most of which is not provided by you), and at the very least you'll be subject to a civil suit in which the evidence is completely useless. Civil court is 100% he-said, she-said...
You can hide your gun under the sleeves. You can even shoot from hidden under the sleeve gun without exposing it.
Yeah... because the sound of a gun going off and the resulting wounds (if you're lucky enough to hit your target) aren't a dead giveaway or anything.
You kick my shin, I'm not justified by any sane standard to stab you with a knife. You're in a mob that knocked me down and are kicking me to death? Different story.
When you carry - legally - you are aware of all the legal ramifications of even SHOWING your firearm in public, much less under duress (otherwise known as "brandishing", which is a crime in and of itself). Nevermind the ramifications of FIRING your weapon.
As for shooting inside your sleeve? Hope you like skin grafts. Two words -
Muzzle. Flash.
Your skin will be roasted. Your clothes will be roasted and shredded. And, roasted clothing will become part of a new, exciting compound called "clothing-skin" as parts of melted cloth embed themselves in your melted flesh.
Go ahead. Try it. Make sure you put it on youtube so we can all see how it goes for you.
Also keep in mind the reason people wear ear muffs on the firing range. Guns are LOUD.
Wait.
Let me say that again.
Guns are LOUD.
This isn't TV. Fire a handgun without hearing protection, just once. And again - make sure you put it on youtube so we can all see how it goes for you. I fired my handgun once without hearing protection (outdoors) because I wanted/needed to know what effect the noise would have on me and my followup shots, if I ever had to use it in a defensive scenario. I ran a whole mag (8 shots) through it, and my ears rang for the better part of a day afterwards. I knew when it was going to go "bang" and it was still surprising, disorienting, and more than a little distracting.
You WILL be noticed, if you fire a gun of any kind.
Period.
As far as I'm concerned, Rittenhouse was absolutely, 1000%, in the right. He fired in self defense while in fear for his own life, and the statements by those he shot (the survivor, anyway) prove intent to kill him had he not defended himself. He is being shafted by the system.
THIS is the risk you take by firing a weapon at someone. Right, wrong, or otherwise, you WILL be arrested and you WILL go to court.
Firing a weapon is, absolutely, without a doubt...a last resort. No exceptions. Bravado where this is concerned is a bunch of bullshit, and it's a great way to get yourself killed.
At least he is alive and not injured. If he would not shoot them he would be dead or injured.
If you are going to shoot from under your sleeve you have to protect your skin and sleeve with layer of fiber glass and insulation to prevent burning and melting. If you wear leather jacket you will not need to protect leather sleeve, just insulate skin on your hand.
Not just killed. The statement now permanently available to the police is evidence of premeditation.
( if it had been on Facebook they would have a file on Tpehak automatically created by algorithm for review by a leftist monitor in the company. As it is, Blake has no connection to the private companies that store comments on social media sites. That just means he doesn't get feedback on how they rate your comments automatically. But it's rated & saved anyway. Public. )
Any competent and responsible martial arts teacher will discuss the moral and legal issues with self defense. There's no universal format for that. In my case it was a warning that the skills come with responsibility and that the teacher was obligated to testify at the trial, and that the trial might be posthumous as the teacher was inclined to defend society against murderous idiots. ( so don't be one )
I admit my Sifu was a very responsible veteran and mentor.
My own teaching includes a lecture on responsibility and the fragility of life.
Full contact fighting techniques and weapons with armor, is lethal to unarmored civilians. Sure, it's just "a stick" & not naked steel. We simulate swordplay. Other organizations use blunt blades. But a "killing blow" ( by tournament rules ) with a rattan stick to a steel helmet with padding can be fatal against someone with less protective gear. If delivered with serious intent at tournament vs. light sparring power levels? It can be lethal even if you don't hit the head. ( I replace pells regularly, 4x4 wrapped in carpet! )
I'll spare you anecdotal bluster. I'm not going anywhere near a riot. So terms like "swath" and "carnage" won't be used.
If you wear leather jacket you will not need to protect leather sleeve, just insulate skin on your hand.
Try it. Put it on youtube, I can't wait to see the results.
Firing a gun is an EXPLOSION. A leather jacket isn't going to contain it. Nor will fiberglass and insulation protect your arm. It will become PART OF your arm.