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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2020 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wisdom from Charles and Shaq

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/09/25/charle s-barkley-shaquille-oneil-draw-backlash-for-pushin g-back-on-breonna-taylor-outrage/24630242/

The complainers must have had their reasoned arguments censored out by aliens.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2020 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In Florida now you can ran over a mob on your car

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/flor ida-governor-proposes-law-that-could-allow-drivers -run-over-mob-1533401%3famp=1
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2020 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not true. Law has not been passed.

Illiterate, ignorant by laziness, or dishonest? Let us know which, please. I may have missed a cause for your error.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2020 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Protesters set fires in Seattle

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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The great tragedy of Breonna's too short life is she apparently dumped her drug dealer boyfriend she held drugs for, for a guy willing to shoot her apparently abusive ex, to defend her, but not with good enough judgment to properly identify his target before shooting a police officer loudly announcing his presence.

DArn. That following her armed new boyfriend into an unnecessary confrontation with arresting officers put her into the line of multiple misses as they shot back at him, is just mean irony.

If I understand correctly, one officer is recommended for prosecution, for being such a bad shot that he missed a guy in a narrow hallway 10 times. This should be a lesson that Hollywood gun fights are utterly unrealistic, stress don't help precision, hand guns take a lot of practice, and...

Don't shoot at cops trying to arrest you. Odds are good your loved ones will suffer and die because of your actions.

Further irony is the new boyfriend, who I somewhat RESPECT for his willingness to defend his lady against her attackers, ( who he said he thought was her ex, with the logical conclusion that her drug dealer ex was likely to murder them, duh ) wouldn't have been in trouble if he'd held his fire since the police weren't looking to arrest him. And while they Were looking to arrest Breonna, as accessory, it was the ex they were after, and apparently ALSO nervous about.

All in all, a horrible event.

Legal reform would help!

Re-writing drug laws to reduce profit and defund both the black market drug industry and the prison building political bribe complex ( the real military-industrial-complex threat to freedom in 21st century America ) would go a long way.

Ultimate historical Irony is Richard Nixon was right. His War on Drugs was a program of drug addiction treatment to help Americans. The Democrats in Congress turned that into a massive bribe taking operation that oppressed poor and minorities, perpetuating the drug addiction problem, and destroyed countless lives.

That's why Breonna is dead.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't shoot at cops trying to arrest you.

You'd think that would be common sense knowledge.
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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need to make drugs 100% legal for everyone older than 18.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go, Darwin.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, to all 3 above posts. : )

The War on Drugs aka... Prohibition 2, Electric Boogaloo, is somewhat germane to the supposed cause of unrest this summer.

Certainly it's really a paid Marxist Revolutionary event run by a bizzaro world combo of old Nazi Billionaires, & the Chinese Communist Party, with old rich winery owning Congress critters and Governors... And probably Hezbollah, I'm losing track of the slime trail.

But it's actually true you have a much higher chance of arrest and imprisonment if you're doing drugs and are a young Black man in a Democrat run City/State/Country. And while the REASONS that is true are many, it's still the Result of The System being rebelled against. The injustice is real.

The deliberate economic, educational, and emotional warfare practiced against Black Americans, predominantly the Confederate/Antifa Party's Urban Plantation policy of poor schools, continuous propaganda of helplessness, victimization, and depression of self worth and expectations, are the Real Root Causes of the anger in our society.

And... Prohibition 2 has been a big factor in cranking up crime and murder rates.

The most obvious example is the Colombian drug lord, whose bribe/campaign contributions earned him a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. Those bribes weren't to ask for legalization. They were to keep their profits up by guaranteeing a monopoly.

Just as the original Prohibition gave great wealth to The Mob and great bribes to The Pols, the War on Drugs has continued that money flow and it's a huge factor in quality of life.
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Zane
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only way I could get behind 100% legal drugs would be letting people who O.D. die. It's called being responsible for their own actions. Take too much drugs, and you die... Well that's on you.

I know that's a pretty harsh attitude but I remember frequent flyers that would O.D. twice a month and never get the message that drugs are dangerous.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would also have to put in place (and ENFORCE) laws that state if you commit a crime while under the influence, you WILL go to jail, you WILL spend the maximum allowable term there, you will NOT pass go, and you will NOT collect $200. No trial, just pack your shit and accept three hots and a cot for the maximum term.

And - to quote Ron White - if you kill someone while you're under the influence of drugs..."we'll kill you back". Death penalty, no appeals, no lengthy jail term. Days, not weeks or months, on death row.

Agree 100% on the above post - if you O.D. from drugs, that IS your DNR order. We won't even send a bus. Don't even tie up the phone lines.

Buh. Bye.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not onboard on the overdose issue. Jimmie Hendrix, John Belushi, etc. Lots of people didn't need to die and made a mistake. A Series of mistakes, really.

It's a bit like Helmet Laws. Where else do we get fresh donors? There's more than one side to this.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, after I made the above post, I went to run errands, and the Conservative economics expert / pundit / investment advisor, was discussing this tragic death of a young lady when her boyfriend shot a cop ( by mistake he claims, thinking it was her ex & murderous minions ) and blamed it on the War On Drugs.



I was just pointing out how Prohibition feeds resentment of police and the Establishment. And not without cause. If only the Democrat Exploitation of minorities & insulting condescending attitudes involved.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/lif e-in-a-blue-city.php

A buddy once opined that in a Zombie Apocalypse he'd head to the DOT first. Before gun, food, drug stores. Big V-plows.

It made a fun discussion about imaginary monster speeds and capabilities. Both World War Z ( the movie version ) and John Ringo's zombie series have "fast zombies", animal hunger & mob ( not pack ) programming/instincts. ( It's not a typical carnivore pattern )

And lesson #1 is... You don't have enough bullets. You just can't carry enough to fight your way out of a city. Vehicles, organization, offer a temporary escape...

But most importantly, zombies are fictional characters that it's ok to shoot & run over. The Moral dilemma, the Drama, is in the decision to kill your fellow humans who get infected and are "doomed" to turn into mindless creatures...

Running a vehicle through a mob of "teenage girls having a peaceful protest" or " Antifa/BLM/ETC Marxist revolutionaries " is another matter entirely.

Vehicle choice, that's similar! But no sane person would choose to mass murder even the Hydra mobs... So the question of Stryker or Salt Truck is purely campfire and whisky talk. In the real world, you are in your dai!y driver and are caught by surprise.

And any recommendations past "don't panic" and good luck seem uncalled for. In today's legal environment...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Situational awareness.

If you know there's a riot (or a "gathering") in a particular location....route yourself somewhere else.

Best way to survive a gunfight? Avoid it.

Ditto, a riot.
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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That driver on Prius had legal right to ran over the mob and shoot all those chasers on the trucks.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to whom?

Sources, please...
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/09/27 /watch-alleged-black-lives-matter-supporter-drives -through-counter-protesters-arrested-for-attempted -murder/

As trolls go, she fails to understand that it's exaggeration that is humorous... Oh! Excuse me! I shouldn't assume gender!
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regarding the prius, self defense. Mobbed, attacked, chased, mobbed, attacked. Cut and dry.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/blm -where-does-the-money-go.php

Ratbuell is right on... Don't go into trouble.

But sometimes it comes to you.

My simplest suggestion is when you see a Mob of people, Don't drive up to them. Turn around, trying to avoid a collision, but if the only way out is the wrong way down the expressway on the shoulder? Better a moving violation than a manslaughter charge.

Don't drive into a corner. You see the Mob, stop. Well back, if possible. THE ACT OF TURNING AROUND WILL MAKE YOU A TARGET! But if you are leaving, it matters less. If they pursue? Remember everything you see in the movies is wrong and will kill you.

It's a good idea to know where the closest Police station is. If you are in Portland, it's the biggest fire. So never mind that.

In a Political Riot where the Local Authorities are aiding the Revolution, then you are better off going to a State Police barracks, or Federal facility, where, WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED you will be better protected from the guys trying to murder you.

I have other opinions... But it would be wrong to suggest anything like TP says, both for legal and moral reasons.

And I admit my conditioned reflexes are at odds with the above. In multiple attacker situations my training is to Run. Second choice is shock them, by doing damage ( read that "disproportionate Response" to attempt to create the hesitation you get from "I can't believe that happened!" ) then RUN. Last choice is to take them on and leave no one left able to hurt you.

It's the last choice for many reasons.

First, it's really hard and unlikely to succeed. Then it's going to look really bad on camera, and a Prosecutor will have a field day telling the Jury how ruthless and evil you are. BECAUSE you have to be to win that kind of fight. ( oh, not the evil part, but the ruthless and seeming callous indifference to harm part, that's real )

So in the real, not John Wick Movie world, it's best to leave. Smoothly & quietly if possible. Attract minimum attention.

basically, don't do whatever idiots do.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great stuff. We need more judges like that, and FEWER "prosecutors" like that!
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2020 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NYT, so you know it is true:

" He expected to find white supremacists who wanted to help re-elect President Trump by stoking fear of Black people. What he discovered instead were true believers in “insurrectionary anarchism.”"


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/opinion/anarchi sts-protests-black-lives-matter.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2020 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the -mob-meets-the-floyd-case.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 05, 2020 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://reason.com/2020/10/02/the-conservative-tra ns-woman-who-went-undercover-with-antifa-in-portla nd/

Know the Enemy.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2020/10/05/life-on -the-streets-a-cop-confesses-what-policing-is-like -in-the-age-of-blm-antifa-n1005051
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For knowing your enemy - that is an enlightening piece. If her take is correct, Antifa "doesn't want to kill", all they "want to do" is make us angry so we strike first, making us the bad guys.

Use their tactic against them.

They push? Push back. Identical force. Anger them; frustrate them until THEY strike first.

For the police blog article...that's just depressing. Mainly because I can see how it is completely true. A friend of mine was so proud of herself for going to one of the early "police reform" rallies - she expected me to support her and feed her kudos for being so "aware" and "supportive".

I clarified my thoughts on the matter, to her. "so when the police are defunded, how long till YOUR neighborhood falls apart? For you (a single mom), and your 18 year old daughter? They tore apart Lancaster PA - right up the road. It's not just Portland and Chicago and NYC - it's coming. Everywhere. How long till Frederick is hit? Or St Augustine (where my 87 year old mother lives, who my friend very much likes and respects)? I can defend myself; you could potentially defend yourself - what's my mom going to do? Who's got her back?"

And, honestly, we haven't really spoken since.

I should send her a link to that article.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Classic terrorism, is based on pushing the Establishment to over react, or appear to, to get people on the Revolutionary's side. The reaction to firebombing cities may be measured and rational, but it Will be spun as desperate and dictatorial.

Islamist terrorism is different. It's the style adopted by Marxists AFTER they take power. Establishment terrorism. Induce fear in the subjects to keep them in line. Punish wrong think. Destroy wrong speech. Murder heretics. Islam has this technique as fundamental, codified in their Holy Book. They didn't invent it, ( The Prophet cut and paste assembled his religion from multiple sources ) and the Leftists simply copied in the same way. ( Marx was a plagiarist in the same manner. )

The Klan was also Establishment terrorists, fear to hold power, like Putin, Xi, or Cancel Culture.

Antifa/BLM are Revolutionary terrorist arms, in the Classic sense.

Both types are on display today.

Burn & loot, dox and lead mobs to attack the Designated Enemy. Same chants, same rich sponsors, same evil. Scarface's coin.
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