| Author | Message | ||
     Crusty |
Never Forget; Never Forgive    | ||
| Ducbsa |
Maybe not in NJ. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/0 9/08/new-jersey-officials-remove-september-11-flag s-n2575792 | ||
| 1313 |
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| Ratbuell |
God rest all the souls we lost that day. | ||
| Crusty |
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| Oldog |
I remember   | ||
| Pwnzor |
I was asleep on the couch in my warehouse at 2701 S Orange Ave, Santa Ana, CA when my phone started ringing. It was my business partner Branden screaming "WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!!!!" I said... "WTF are you talking about?" Him: "We're under attack from Bin Laden!" Me: "Who the hell is Bin Laden?" Him: "We're under f**king attack!!" Me: "Dude, what the hell do you mean?" Him: "Turn on your TV" Me: "What channel?" Him: "Doesn't matter!" Me: *click*, TV on and I see smoke coming from the first tower that was hit - "Ummm... what happened here? Did a plane crash into it?" Him: "I told you we're under attack!" Me: "You know these buildings are designed to withstand small planes hitting them. The Empire State building has been hit a couple of times. Hey, Branden, do you see that? There's a plane coming... what the hell.... OH SHIT!!!!!" We were indeed under attack. Within 2 hours, I had a lot of paranoid drug traffickers gathered in my office. We uncrated a couple of dozen units from a shipment I was holding and nobody went anywhere alone. Two men in every cab and a chase car behind with two more in it. International smuggling had changed forever, as had most every other aspect of our lives. I still remember the chilling sensation watching that second plane plow into the building, and then watching them both fall some time later. I won't ever forget it. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Just watched a video of Navy vet Dave Bray. Never heard of him before but I liked the song linked to in this Fox News article. Hope this works... https://www.foxnews.com/us/a-musician-with-a-histo ry-of-service-calls-for-unity-patriotism-in-septem ber-11-tribute Z | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Two_seasons |
I will never forget. I believe in law and order and will protect the USA and the love I have for her until the day I die. Never fear lies, anarchy, hate! There is more common ground with your neighbors than you may know. Engage them, listen to them, speak the truth to them.  | ||
| Blake |
Thank you Crusty. I have a nephew who is just about to turn 18. I text him the Blood of Heroes video. He has no recollection of America before 9/11. Michele and I were talking and both agreed that we'd prefer airport security eliminate the TSA, put it in the hands of the airlines while allowing qualified concealed carry on board, special license required. Between that, air marshals, locked secure cockpit doors, and improved intelligent profiling the risk is about zero. I haven't traveled by air since earlier in 2001. Driving is fine by me. | ||
| Blake |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTiDWD5VloI | ||
| Tpehak |
Coronavirus killed much much more people. The 911 attack was targeted to cause particular reaction from society and was developed the way people will justify particular political actions after this accident. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 12, 2020) | ||
| Ratbuell |
So does cancer, and auto accidents. What's your point? Moron. 9/11 was pure evil. Murder, plain and simple. Don't you DARE disrespect those we lost. | ||
| Tpehak |
You even don't want to see and figure out what really happened and who is really responsible for this accident and who planned it and why, which means they achieved their goals, this is the exactly reaction they wanted from you. | ||
| Crusty |
Oh, yeah; and the Japanese really didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, either. | ||
| Zane |
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| Sami |
We should remember and respect the victims of 9/11. We honor them by investigating the truth. Perhaps it sounds cliche, but truth fears no investigation. I remember when 9/11 happened, and it's no exaggeration to say that the world changed on 9/11. In some ways, the world changed for the worse, in other ways it changed for the better. This is true for every catastrophe that hits people's lives. God brings good out of evil, even if it doesn't seem so at times. Investigating the truth is how we honour the victims, and oftentimes the truth comes to light only after many years. There's a saying, " A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on." Many lies and half-truths were told to the public after 9/11 for political and financial gains. Regime changes were implemented under false pretensions and hasty decisions. Thousands of American soldiers sacrificed their lives in Iraq despite the fact that Saddam had little to nothing to do with 9/11. Mistakes were made after 9/11, which is no fault of the heroes who gave their lives. We can't change the past, but we should remember it and learn from it. Do not repay evil with evil, but repay evil with good. Evil cannot create, it can only destroy. Evil is lawless and disorderly, good is lawful and orderly. There is no law and order in evil, that's why evil is destructive. | ||
| Blake |
Well said Sami. Your source reference is impeccable.  | ||
| Blake |
I'd left a job in Rockaway, NJ in August of 2001. Rockaway is a small town off I-80 about 30 minutes from the George Washington Bridge. Just a couple months earlier, I had been atop the observation deck hosting an Italian Colonel and his aid from NATO. They were eager to see the city and WTC, so we made it happen. The observation deck had a neat presentation of the history of Manhattan and the immigration statistics for people coming though Ellis Island. Lots of Italians! Some of my Sicilian ancestors included. We had a great time. Really nice people. I've not been back since. It's strange, but I don't have any desire to go back. I'm still deep down angry. I had traveled many times through Patterson, NJ during the ten months I was up there. I liked to get groceries at Corrado's Market in Clifton; amazing place. Patterson was on the way, and it was crawling with burkas. I'd never seen anything like it outside the Middle East. 100% absolute total very bad vibes. I'm counting on the Italians to hold the ground. | ||
| Court |
Manhattan, under DeBlasio, has devolved into an interesting place. We still have the apartment at 79th and York that the better half has had since 1977 but no one has set foot in it in over w years. I had to go into Manhattan last week . . . for the first time since last year. The town is materially changed. I've lived there since 1995 one never had any apprehension traveling anywhere in the city, about anytime . . day or night. Things have changed and I counted 7 moving vans in a single block on 2nd Avenue. Columbia has pretty much gone virtual and I've let them know I'll not be coming back to the city to teach. The value of my house in upstate NY increased 5.5% last month and the neighbors house was on the market and had 2 competing bids within 2 days . . . Architectural and remodeling firms are backed up over a year. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/nyregion/moving -new-york-coronavirus.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/one-month-later-few-m anhattan-office-workers-have-returned-despite-new- yorks-reopening-11595847600 A couple major employers have announced https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/nyregion/nyc-ph ase-2-reopening-coronavirus.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-23 /only-a-trickle-of-wall-street-workers-return-for- nyc-s-reopening New York City is a damn war zone of homeless and criminals who know they won't be prosecuted. The idea of a rape . . . with folks filming on iPhones and not intervening . . . at 11:30am on a subway platform says it all. Patterson, NJ has always been a hell hole . . . I think of it every time I hear Bob Dylan sing Hurricane about Rubon "Hurricane" Carter. The liberals running NYC got exactly what they deserved. | ||
| Ratbuell |
The liberals running NYC got exactly what they deserved. The part that scares me is, they want to run the whole country that way. The part that REALLY scares me is, they've either snowed enough people, or they plan to cheat badly enough...that they stand a chance to actually pull it off. I'm sorry to hear about your old neighborhood, Court. And, I pray it does not happen to the rest of our great Nation. | ||
| Court |
No worries to me . . . . . I'm in my sunset years . . . . I don't care if I work or not . . . have a great job that, other than maybe one day a year, allows me to work wherever I want and pretty much ease about between 3 residences with an occasional trip into Manhattan. Shame is for those folks who remain . . . just look at the shootings the last 24 hours . . check out the folks being shot in expensive cars and look at Macy's, the largest store in the USA, having all its floors ravaged and not a person charged . . . watch the young kids fleeing with arms of $5,000 Louis Vuitton handbags and being offered the "they deserve it since they have been oppressed". We've got a generation of folks who can't string words into a sentence and live their lives looking at their screen, updating their social medial and filming crimes in hopes of becoming an "influencer". We've spawned a generation of frickin' idiots. Fun part is that they are like social offensive linemen making it easy for hardworking young people. One off my offspring just hit a big 8 figure bonus and the company he started has just announced they are going public. Someone said "the right are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer". I'd suggest the "smart and hard working can pretty well write their own ticket and the poor are left to live on whatever they can fence the handbags for". Tough world. | ||
| Reindog |
Thanks for the update, Court. Scott and Annie sold their place on 96th St. just in time and walked with a bag of cash... they are now renting on 116th and Malcolm X so I am worrying for their safety. Their building is a huge, safe complex called The Kalahari so they are okay inside. Going out at night is a bad thing to put it nicely. It is just a matter of time before The Brothers accuse the white folk and Indian folk from colonizing their Harlem. Laurie and I visited last September and it was okay even when Scott and I nursed Screwdrivers in Solo Cups while walking past the Brothers hanging out in from of the Mosque a block away. Yeah, times change. Although New York was our original home, we can't imagine ever visiting NYC ever again. We knew Big Bird was bad during his first mayoral term but had no idea he would intentionally destroy New York. Hopefully he is not a microcosm of where America will become but we are worried. Prescott is awesome where the BLM protest demonstration was met with AR-15s locked and loaded last week. There was a 4:1 majority of Patriots over the Haters of America. We think we will stay in Prescott as we love it here. I just purchased a 2019 RZR 1000S and will be hitting the hundreds of miles of rocky roads around here. (Message edited by reindog on September 13, 2020) |
