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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Mad_max
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The media is very disturbed by this of course. I didn't make the chart so feel free to dispute the numbers with actual facts. Not what the media claims as fact.

Racial Disparities
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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So those protesters want to equalize violent assaults between black and white population? In this case they need to reduce black against white violent assaults significantly.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don’t like it? Change the training, don’t blame the cops.

Better yet - don't do illegal shit in the first place. If you don't piss off the cops, they won't have to put you on the ground.

This shit needs to stop, and all these Dem mayors and other persons (Omar and Walz, and any others like them who are tweeting "advice" to the rioters) need to get locked up, like right NOW.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forget the black/white statistics that prove di$% all. Spin & propaganda on multiple levels.

Not that the numbers are wrong, it's the assumptions behind the conclusions.

First incorrect assumption is that skin color is the determinant factor. It's cultural/local/educational.

Yes, I've read The Bell Curve. But I also studied statistical causality analysis, so I try to look past the pretty curves, at the parameters/assumptions behind them.

Ice cream & murder. Every summer, ice cream sales rise. So do murder rates. They track beautifully. But ice cream doesn't cause murder.

Taking the above poster, what is in common with the groups? Simply, most murders are concentrated in Communities. Drug dealing areas. Poor education areas. Democrat run areas. ( in the U.S., Other Parties in other countries. ) Population density difference. Etc.

That such high crime areas also Venn diagram over concentrations of black people can be interpreted in multiple ways. Racists point to skin color as the cause of crime. Or you can conclude that black people are targeted for high crimes by poor law enforcement, as a vast conspiracy to keep them oppressed. ( like, for example, a political Party that wrote Jim Crow laws ) Or that some other socioeconomic factor, like Japanese cars causing the U.S. to lose well paid auto-plant jobs. Or...

And after you've charted all those curves, made a 3D rotating presentation displaying dozens of assumptions, plot in migration patterns in the U.S...... Then again globally.... And get back to me. No powerpoint!
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Sami
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 04:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick: ''But ice cream doesn't cause murder.''

Take away my ice cream and find out the hard way.

Seriously, I agree that cultural/local/educational factors have to be considered before conclusions are drawn. Many things have gone up the last couple of decades, such as divorce, fatherlessness, single mothers, welfare, drug use, unemployment, etc. All these and other factors can attribute just as much if not more to crime than race does. If race was the determinant factor in crime, then we would expect to see similar crime statistics in previous decades. However, crime statistics then were dissimilar to what they are now. Conclusion, race is not the determinant factor in crime.

That being said, one would be blind not to see the disparity shown by the statistics. The current racial tensions are largely due to Democrat mismanagement in the areas affected by crime.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I told a buddy, retired Marine, if I am to believe that Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ higher than Europeans then I must also believe subsaharan Africans average lower.

But the cause of that difference, if you look harder, has zip all to do with nose shape. ( or skin color ) You could argue that belief in an exclusive, single God makes a cultural difference, but be prepared to defend that idea against counter example.

Nutrition, European colonial exploitation, and ( imho a #2 factor after nutrition ) brain drain, easily explain African's lower test scores.

Smart people move from suck hole dictatorships to free lands if they can escape, and start new more successful lives. The inevitable result is that the fled country lowers it's average IQ while the host country rises.

Arguably, that same dynamic means the country escaped TO also gets the malcontents and religious groups that are oppressed in their former homeland.

The United States is the RESULT of that migration & brain drain. We get the smart And annoying immigrants. ; )

You see the same dynamic in Cities. Why live in Philadelphia, with a D ( despotic ) leadership, ( admittedly the police there haven't bombed and burned out a block for years ) when there is better opportunity and lower crime in Tulsa?

Brain drain is real.

As for the Ashkenazi, I'd argue they've had a traditional eugenics program going long before Gregor Mendel started growing peas. "I want my daughter to marry a Doctor" pretty much sums it up. Mate the smartest to the smartest, and viola!

Contrary in spirit is the destruction of the family structure by Welfare rules that discourage marriage and parental responsibility for the sperm distributor. Or blame rap music. ( But check your math )

Oh, I forgot. Math is racist!

( How racist can you be? Hard to beat, "not white people can't be expected to show up for class on time, or understand 2+2=4." ???)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tend to agree with Scott Adams’ recent tweets on this issue. Virtually EVERYONE agreed that what this guy’s death was wrong and something needed to be done to stop it. That good will and agreement has been completely squandered as a result of the continuing riots.

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/aft er-last-night-30.php

Pre-positioned fire bombs and bricks tell me this is not spontaneous rage, but instead organized war against the United States.

Hail Hydra! ( George Soros is a sponsor of Antifa & BLM & .....)
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

First incorrect assumption is that skin color is the determinant factor. It's cultural/local/educational.




I get called racist by white friends for pointing this out. They're all about "people of color" until you disagree with them. All of a sudden you're only brown so you can't know what racism is...like they're preaching to black people it is. I, of course, am the ignorant racist for wanting the facts before jumping to conclusions.

Last night CNN ran through their recent examples of black men "executed" on the streets by police. Of all the examples, one was murder, one was negligent, a couple accidental due to individuals not following directions, a couple were fully justifiable, etc. The officers were of random persuasion. It's incredible how nobody seems to want the facts, or to see it as anything but a racial issue, and yet those same folks think they can call me blind and ignorant.

They could all be opportunities to learn how to properly deal with police...for police to perhaps exercise some due diligence...but instead here we are.

Ultimately the effort is to defang the police where needed most, and so far it's working. If they want to give the police whistles instead of guns I'm fine with it, but when they become ineffective in diffusing any situation I'll not care. Our own safety is ultimately our responsibility. They just have to write it up, if necessary.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at how many people are looting I see how low moral level in our society is. So the only thing that stopped them from open felony before is fear of justice and once the fear of justice is gone there is nothing else can stop them from criminal activity, they have no moral to not do this. Basically those protesters proved that this society still needs brutal force to keep justice and prosperity. Their protests against police brutality proved nothing but opposite.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on June 01, 2020)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife and I know somebody who is a big supporter of BLM and Antifa.

At least, she was until two nights ago the "protesters" looted and burned her father's store.

Now, all of a sudden, she is outraged and is screaming for the local police to "do something" because these people are out of control.

Meanwhile, she continues to sell weed.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"According to the Washington Post, 19 unarmed African-American males were killed by police in 2017, and 17 in 2016 — an average of 18 per year. It’s unlikely that all 18 were unjustified, but let’s assume they were."

18? That's a weekend in Chicago! What have the looters and rioters done to reduce the 90% that are not by cops or whites?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/wha t-the-riots-tell-us-about-policing-in-america.php
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Sami
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

George Soros: The ‘God’ Who Carries Around Some Dangerous Demons. Quote:

It seems that Soros believes he was anointed by God. “I fancied myself as some kind of god ...” he once wrote. “If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.”

When asked by Britain’s Independent newspaper to elaborate on that passage, Soros said, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”
[...]
“Next to my fantasies about being God, I also have very strong fantasies of being mad,” Soros once confided on British television. “In fact, my grandfather was actually paranoid. I have a lot of madness in my family. So far I have escaped it.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-oct-0 4-oe-ehrenfeld4-story.html


George Soros, 89, is still on a quest to destroy America
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/25/g eorge-soros-89-still-quest-destroy-america/

Destroying America requires destroying morality and religion. A warning from the past:

''Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'' -John Adams

(Message edited by Sami on June 01, 2020)
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The people funding the groups that help organize the mayhem should be brought to justice.

This isn't a 3rd world country. This kind of nonsense isn't going to bring us to our knees. They're simply making it worse for the communities that need more of a presence of the law, not less. But leftism is never about empowering or protecting people...although all the people arming themselves in response means there's still hope.
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Sami
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

''The people funding the groups that help organize the mayhem should be brought to justice.''

Unlikely. Too many people in high places are involved in funding these groups. More likely scenario is that some of these groups get classified as terrorist organisations without any higher ups being brought to justice in order to not create unnecessary enemies. It's a safer bet to go after groups than to go after people funding those groups.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sheriff Joe ARSENIO For U.S. Prison Coordinator!!!!!





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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, Soros fancies himself an anti-christ.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even there is a group of people intentionally started looting and vandalizing the rest of the protesters should disperse and separate themselves from that violent group of people to let police to do the job. But instead of this most of the protesters got closer to them, some of them joined looting and vandalizing, some of them actively resisted police officers to do their work, some of them just shoot video on the phones for fun, and all that crowd passively and actively participated in the unlawful action.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone still think this is about race?

And, who the hell is Joe Arsenio and why should he be in charge of prisons?
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Several years ago, before Glenn Beck went off the rails for a while, he was showing a lot of history which I recorded on a DVR. One episode showed Soros in an interview and the interviewer asked about his poor childhood and how he was forced to show the Nazi's where other Jew's lived. That must have been terrible she said. His reply was that it was the greatest time of his life. I have never felt such power!! Folks, this is as close to Satan as you can get and be human. Unfortunately that DVR fried and I lost this recording and have never been able to find it again. I may try looking again as it's eye opening.
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Sami
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

George Soros admits Nazi collaboration with no regrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9tKvasRO54
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found that one, which is bad enough, but the video I remember was a female asking the questions. He said pretty much what he said in the 60 minutes video but went on to say it was the best time of his life, the feeling of power etc.
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Sami
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

George Soros banned from 6 countries
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/george-soros-b anned-from-6-countries/

Quote:

The only question is why Soros still has not been banned from the United States.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is another video popped up recently where it looks Floyd aggressively resisted police officers while they tries to pack him in the police car. That explains why they put him down on the ground with knee on his neck to cool him down. That explains why there are so many violent thugs on the protests, they just scared they will be handled same way if they will try to escape justice.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm wondering if those looted malls sponsored these events? Otherwise I can't explain why private security did not shoot those looters down with automatic weapon.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you really think that security guards actually have automatic weapons?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2020 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In his universe, maybe.

The only question is why Soros still has not been banned from the United States.

Because he is a Partner of Barack Hussein Obama.

Since Barack's sources of funding are more secret than nuclear weapons tech, I don't know for certain how much Soros has given him, and when.

https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/The-Devil-Beh ind-the-Democrats-George-Soros

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/25/geo rge-soros-89-still-quest-destroy-america/
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