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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The majority DID vote for our President.

Illegal bullshit kept those votes from being counted.

If there was nothing illegal - PROVE IT. Open the files, open the records, let the auditors have free reign, and prove it.

I'll wait.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/questions-abou t-chaos-capitol-desperately-need-be-answered
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/schumer-calls-tr ump-be-removed-office-immediately

Reichstag Fire, 2021.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and now we know the true goal behind the chaos...
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My focus on history has long been on the technology. So I'm better at explaining the reasons the engines on a Me-262 had a service life of a Mayfly than why Der Fuerher wanted to cancel the plane.

But I've learned the context is important. And that myths persist long after the facts come out.

Herr Chancellor thought the war would be over long before production could provide a useful number.

Useless trivia, right?

But that thinking has proven wrong many times in history. The reverse also happens, where new gear is ordered, but doesn't arrive in time to make a difference. ( Browning machine guns in WW1 )

So it goes with current events.

The techniques And technology of the Antifa agitators was "predicted" by Heinlein's novel The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. It's the original manual for electronic cell structure revolutionary technique.

Techniques and technology don't care who uses them.
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H0gwash
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trump would not have agreed to a peaceful transfer of power if he knew he won the election. He simply cannot bear to admit publicly he lost the election, so he makes stuff up. He has lost so many legal challenges to the election already.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would be nice if a judge allowed a case to get far enough to present evidence and call witnesses.
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H0gwash
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trump's lawyers have had more than their fair share of days in court. Barr has said that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HOgwash, you are full of shit if you bothered to watch the hundreds of hours of testimony. There were literally hundreds of people willing to testify under oath subject to perjury, that there as a steal. You might not be an engineer who has studied statistical analysis but the midnight "results" are statistically improbable if not impossible. I suspect you are a "ends justify the means" which is quite Soviet of you.
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H0gwash
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HOgwash, cite your sources.
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is dated Dec 1 2020:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i7okfljAxo
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is from a former neighbor of ours. It might be true or not true. I don't know but I know what I saw. The rioters in the Capitol certainly didn't look like Trump supporters as I have attended rallies and have watched a score of Trump campaign rallies. This was a setup akin to the Burning of the Reichstag. Ok... this is the information I received....

They were warning us in a briefing that I attended back 3 months ago with the other violence that was happening. It was about how to protect & secure your loved ones when this stuff goes down... my girlfriends shop was attacked in the Scottsdale riots, luky she wasnt there. So i wanted to know how to react in case she got trapped.
These professional security forces (these are elite forces guys that now get paid to protect billionaires and diplomats... retired Seals, Rangers... like the guys in Bengazi)
They said to be very weary of Trump rallys, especially during/after the elections. They said if Trump contests a losing result, Antifa has already been organizing buying Trump memorabilia to dress up and storm Capitol buildings to force him out... they use Social Media outlets to communicate and we were shown some of the evidence at that time. There are playbooks they distribute on tactics, and organized events where they train others what to do in a riot. This was OCTOBER.
We were told, if we get stuck into one that springs up, pretend to be them the best you can, chant what they are chanting, jump up & down, blend in, and get away as quick as possible before you get trapped.
Need to be very careful going forward.
We will be persecuted for not being "in-line".
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2005 federal bipartisan commission co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter: "Absentee (mail-in) ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud."

Democrats 2020: Mail-in voting is swell! Drop boxes in predominantly Democrat precincts with no chain of custody are swell! Implement all that quickly and change other election rules unconstitutionally to weaken ballot/voter verification and election security.

Fair-minded Americans: That's going to lead to chaos and fraud.

Democrats: That's just paranoid conspiracy talk.

Judges: You can't sue before the election, since there has been no harm.

Also judges: You can't sue after the election because it's too late, the election is over.

Fair-minded Americans: Some state elections look very suspicious, especially in some key counties. RE: https://hereistheevidence.com/election-2020/stats/

Democrats: There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Fair-minded Americans: State law and the Constitution were violated affecting millions of ballots across battleground state, and we actually do have a lot of evidence from a wide range of sources including hundreds of sworn affidavits documenting fraudulent activity.

So, let's transparently audit the mail-in envelopes, ballots and election system computers in a few key counties to allay or confirm those valid concerns.

Democrats: No. There is no widespread fraud.




Half the country distrusts the election integrity, but just tell them to pound sand? How to foment more division and destruction of the Union.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Union is already destroyed, Blake. The Democrat is the Enemy. The evidence of the Steal is widespread and incontrovertible yet the Judiciary, Congress, MSM and State Governments refuse to listen. We have devolved into Venezuela and are quickly becoming an image of the former Soviet Union.

Democrats are no longer welcome in our house. This is a decision reached by Laurie and myself after much discussion.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan to blatantly point out what's coming, and why, to any acquaintences I have who are Democrat. Let them start with the "that'll never happen here" denial...but six months or a year down the road all we have to do is remind them...
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is incontrovertible evidence that the 2020 Election was stolen
Reindog, please cite your sources.
I would especially like to see who says the evidence is "incontrovertible."



(Message edited by h0gwash on January 08, 2021)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would especially like to see who says the evidence is "incontrovertible."


Anyone with an ounce of common sense, and the ability to do math.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do your own homework, HOgwash.

There are literally hundreds of people who have signed affadavits of Election Fraud. They can be held in contempt if they were lying.

Did you miss the GA videos of monitors being sent home at 2AM where four workers illegally remained, pulled out a suitcase of ballots and fed them to the counting device multiple times?

Thousands of ballots that had no crease when they were required to be received in an envelope.

The tech guy who broke into a Dominion machine within minutes during a hearing.

The statistical impossibility of Trump leading by hundreds of thousands of votes until 4AM when the lead miraculously disappeared.

Dead people voting.

Out of state people voting.

People voting multiple times.

Poll monitors being denied access and forced to stand 60-100 feet away from the count.

Counting stations being shielded to prevent observation.

Governors changing voting rules which is unconstitutional.

Universal absentee ballots mailed from corrupted outdated voting rolls. This is interesting because we just moved to Arizona from California and realized at the last moment that California was about to mail ballots in our name to our former street address.

Ballot harvesting.

Dominion machines illegally connected to the Internet.

Dominion machines with stolen keys.

Dominion machines that had help steal the Venezuela vote for Maduro.

Absented Military ballots that went overwhelmingly for Biden which is highly suspicious as President Trump has built up the military, is stopping the wars, and has invigorated the VA.

Hundreds of hours of testimony in AZ, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Georgia. I am retired so I had the time to watch and be educated.

I am just getting started. Do your own homework and drop your emotions and listen to reality.

BTW, your question to me was quite snarky and you simply parroted my own words.
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H0gwash
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm trying to avoid the snark. I did say please.

All those stories and Barr's statement "to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election" are not mutually exclusive. Both can be true simultaneously.

I agree that election fraud should be stopped. The biggest impact will originate from good quality evidence that a Republican judge would find incontrovertible. So far, even Trump appointed Republican judges have characterized Trump's evidence as low quality and without merit.

That is why I asked for your source which claims those stories are "incontrovertible" proof of a stolen election.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2021 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going to jump in with my .02 here.

First, I disagree with any statement by Barr, or any other person, who says that "fraud on a scale that would affect the outcome" hasn't been found.

Fundamental disagreement - ANY fraud, in the most important process in our Nation's government, should be investigated IMMEDIATELY. PERIOD. It's like pregnancy - you can't have "just a little fraud". Either you do, or you don't. Black and white. An investigation is warranted, and needs to happen NOW before any evidence ages, disappears, or is altered. The number of affadavits simply goes to prove that fraud DID exist - and the investigation will bring to light the "to what level".

Second - judges are neither Republican nor Democrat. They are JUDGES - they serve the law. Period. Any judge who is biased by politics should be removed immediately. This is where "interpretation" comes in - some interpret laws differently than others, but ideally any Federal judge would be a strict constructionist. "This is what the words say, so this is what the law means". 2A for example - "shall not be infringed" means just that. "A well-regulated militia" in the time of writing was made up of individuals who would get called up as needed (such as today's NG), therefore this Amendment applies to individual citizens as persons, not just to groups of people as an army.

Third - the courts didn't reject Trump's filings due to poor evidence. They rejected them due to poor procedural work. I have no idea if the legal team is working on correcting those errors. I can only hope.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2021 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/t wentyfirst_century_rules_for_revolutionaries.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2021 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/01/ere ction-in-portland.php

One of the defining characteristics of spoiled brats is you can't make them happy.

And I use the term "spoiled brats" to be nice, these are violent monster "adults".

I did notice that the police have orders to interfere with the partying. But wait until felonies in progress? And fairly ineffective at it.

I hope some responsible adult at the Portland PD is saving the orders from the Mayor. Make interesting reading for future historians writing about the Crazy Years.

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