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Sami
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Thou shalt not steal" is one of the Ten Commandments.
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Sami
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why China Is Taking over Africa's Resources One Country at a Time
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-china-t aking-over-africas-resources-one-country-time-7052 6
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, & Covet is in there too.

Ratbuell's analysis is spot on for today.

Sami, your linked article even mentions that the "secular" forces simply replace God with the Holy State. If Archangel Michael is unmentioned, but Locke is the light to lead, what's the difference? File off the serial numbers, slap on a coat of paint, and call it New.

I'm NOT saying the message is the same. I'm saying the handle on people's minds is. The Cathedral is replaced by the Stadium and the Altar by the TV.

I'm a proud and defiant Heretic to the intolerant faith of the Greens. When I mention the failure of the models to predict the past, much less the future, I am attacked as though it was the 16th century and I called Mary a cheating spouse with a fool for a husband.

It's just shooting fish in a barrel to point to God King Xi in China who's Concentration Camps for Muslims literally teach to thank Xi, not Allah, for life itself.

Islam, religious cult bent on dominion.
Marxism, religious cult bent on dominion.
Greenies, same group, more paint. ( ironically, the old saying about Capitalists selling the rope to the Socialists to hang them with, is blatantly obvious with Saint Greta of Thunberg's rich sponsors, who want taxpayer money to build ecological disaster energy projects. )

Removing God isn't what happens. Replacing, that's the pattern.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't Nehemiah Scudder due about now?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do it for the children.
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Sami
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick, Ratbuell's analysis treats God as the problem rather than the solution. Remember my thread ''God and the constitution''? Far from being the problem, God is the solution to the problem we are facing right now. John Adams said it best:

''Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.''

The Left understands this, which is why they are undermining religion and morality at every opportunity, to create an immoral and irreligious people.

Granted, they aren't removing God so much as they are replacing God. The problem with replacing God is that God has big shoes to fill. How is anyone who is bent on replacing God going to fill God's shoes? They want God's power, but they don't want God's responsibility. They cannot create, they can only duplicate.

Replacing God requires removing God first. God is not the problem, God is the solution. John Adams understood this, and dare I say Trump understands this:

Trump protecting public school prayer is 'beginning of the end of war on faith'
https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/trump-prayer- school-public-guidance
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Sami
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick: ''If you want to blame the British for WW2, that's only partly so, and far more from the WW1 ending Treaties and land theft practiced by the French and English. The Middle East is the prime example of their greed. African & Asian colonialism, ( by all European Powers, ) also theft, with excuses.''

I'm not blaming the British for WW2. I mentioned how the British economy was under threat by the rising German economy, which was reason for concern to Churchill and his administration. Definitely, Germany had expansionist ambitions to steal their neighbour's everything. Heck, they even had a word for it, ''Lebensraum'', to steal the ''living room'' from their neighbours.

Patrick: ''Feel free to blame the Brits for the Opium Wars, and the Germans, Japanese ( who had already openly invaded, occupied, parts of China ) & Americans. You'd be surprised how many European countries were involved.''

Many people underestimate this, good that you mentioned it. China has not forgotten the Opium Wars, it has taken revenge by producing and exporting Fentanyl and other designer drugs to the West and worsening the opioid epidemic.

I agree with the rest of your post, war is often a looting operation.

The levels of war need to be studied, because the Chinese Century relies on warfare, more specifically, 4th generation warfare. The most important level of war is morale. When morale goes down, when people become immoral and irreligious, that is when the war is lost and that is when God is replaced.

We can argue about war all day long, but without morale we have lost the war already. The most important lesson of war is this: Don't let morale go down. To quote Sun Tsu, “Every battle is won before it’s ever fought.”

Basically meaning that if morale is down, then the battle is already lost. If morale is up, then the battle is already won. A defeatist mentality is your worst enemy.

(Message edited by Sami on May 13, 2020)
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Sami
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick: '' If Archangel Michael is unmentioned, but Locke is the light to lead, what's the difference?''

The difference is that without God, all things are permitted, to quote Dostoevsky. God is needed for the government of a moral and religious people. The right analysis is that God is not the problem, but the solution. That is why Communists wage war on God and persecute and kill people who believe in Him. God provides morale for the people and foundation for the nation. A nation under God is immune to Communism.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2 020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_swor n_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc _123596.html



Sami, the point is that it's a Religious War for the Left. They have their own gods, human, intolerant, organized. They claim dispassionate secularism, but act as Inquisitors, dedicated to the destruction of their enemies.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regarding the crowdstrike article:

This is standard stuff in breach investigations. Often there is not a log of every event. You look for indicators of compromise, or IOC. The only way to know, and I mean KNOW that something was exfiltrated, is by having a packet capture, and that almost never happens. There are hugely expensive products that do it, like Netwitness, but it’s very rare that those are employed. Lots of money, lots of storage.

The guy was using precise language about what they found. If a company was breached and PII was stolen, or suspected of being stolen, based on IOCs discovered, that company would be assumed to have had data exfiltrated and would be bound by law to notify the people whose data had been presumed to have been lost and pay for credit monitoring for them. Based on their considerable experience, the DNC got hacked and had mail stolen. There was just no direct evidence that data was exfiltrated. As I said, in most cases, there wouldn’t be, especially not with the lousy security and lack of adherence to best practices in play at DNC for their mail infrastructure. I suspect they hired political hacks/operatives instead of IT professionals to maintain it for them.

I don’t consider the lack of direct evidence as evidence that their mail was not stolen.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since evidence that their mail was stolen exists, it was leaked, it was stolen. That's simple.

There's also at least hearsay evidence that the thief or thieves accessed directly, in person, the DNC mail server, based on data transfer rates. A memory stick in the machine itself.

And hearsay evidence, from Wikileaks, that the thief was murdered for his actions, by the DNC, and there's a dead body, shot in the back with nothing obviously stolen from the corpse. Which is pretty solid evidence of a murder, eh?

I'm guessing there is a file full of murder victims that were "robbed" but no evidence of any theft, wallet, keys, phone, and watch left on the body as the robber panics at his or her perfect murder with no witnesses and flees, quietly, after shooting a political minion with a silenced pistol in the back without any warning. There's at least one case, after all.

What doesn't exist is any evidence that the DNC, Crowdstrike, or Hillary told the truth, ever. ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/petty _tyrants_abound_in_a_crisis_the_left_turns_to_auth oritarianism_the_right_fights_for_liberty.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/democ rats_heroes_act_amounts_to_confession_of_their_pla ns_to_exploit_the_pandemic_and_keep_themselves_in_ power_forever.html
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Sami
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick: ''Sami, the point is that it's a Religious War for the Left. They have their own gods, human, intolerant, organized. They claim dispassionate secularism, but act as Inquisitors, dedicated to the destruction of their enemies.''

The religious Left has many weaknesses. Their main weakness is that they don't know themselves nor their enemies. They are blinded by their own ideology, which is why they are losing the social, cultural and political battles. In order to win, one has to know ones enemies.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tsu

Does the Left know themselves? Does the Left know their enemies? No, they don't. They are blinded by rage, they suffer from ''Orange Man Bad'' syndrome. The Left are paper tigers, they derive their influence from big tech and big media. Remove big tech and big media and what is left of the Left (no pun)? Nothing will be left of the Left. The Leftist religion relies on control of the Narrative via big tech and big media. The reason why they shut people down is because they have lost control over the Narrative. The only option left to the Left is excommunication, aka censorship and deplatforming. They have no plan, they have no morale, because they didn't expect to lose. They were on the top of the world, they owned almost all media outlets, but then something happened. I don't know exactly what, but it coincided with Trump and Brexit. For the Left, Trump and Brexit were nightmares that weren't supposed to have happened:

Calm down. Trump won’t be President – and Britain won’t leave the EU
The nightmare of a Trump presidency and a Brexit vote ain’t gonna happen, says Ian Leslie.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/20 16/06/calm-down-trump-wont-be-president-and-britai n-wont-leave-eu

The Left still hasn't recovered from this.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I disagree. The Left Leaders sure know themselves. They've been winning the culture war with grade school, college, Hollywood and the so called News.

The peasants willing to embrace bread and circuses may be ignorant fools, but the Elite Rulers are fully aware.
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Sami
Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm willing to say that the Left Leaders may not even be ''Left''. There's a lot of dark and evil stuff going on at the top that I don't think the Leaders see themselves as Leftists, but as something else. Here's a hint: Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, and Hillary Clinton wrote her thesis on it. I wouldn't be surprised if the main religion of the Elite Rulers is Luciferian.

Well, they have been winning the culture war because of things like these:

''Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.''
David Rockefeller.

''We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.''
David Rockefeller.

Thanks to AZquotes : )

https://www.azquotes.com/author/12501-David_Rockef eller/tag/conspiracy-theory
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/a-m ove-to-reinstate-racial-preferences-in-california. php
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Sami
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's an insight into the religion of the Elite Rulers, from Rockefeller Center:

https://www.rockefellercenter.com/art-and-history/ art/prometheus/

Prometheus is the bringer of fire and light to mankind and known to be a trickster god amongst the pantheon of Greek gods. In Christian thought, Prometheus is understood to be the representation of Lucifer, that being who masquerades as an angel of light:

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:14

Occultists such as Blavatsky admit in writing that Prometheus represents a version of Lucifer:

''The allegory of the Fall of man and the fire of Prometheus is also another version of the myth of the rebellion of the proud Lucifer, hurled down to the bottomless pit -- Orcus.''
https://theosophy.wiki/w-en/index.php?title=Promet heus

The Elite Rulers idolise and worship Prometheus/Lucifer, the god/angel of light.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regarding Cali:

Old-fashioned Wrongthink:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/judge _sullivan_should_be_careful_what_he_asks_for.html
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm. Where to put this.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/hackers-doub le-ransom-lady-gaga-madonna-attorney-threaten-dona ld-trump

I call bs on the Trump thing. If a celebrity law firm had dirt on Trump, they would have leaked it to the media years ago. Good on them for not paying. Screw these guys. Also, they need better security folks, and IT people who listen to their security folks.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2020/05/14/the-lefts-flynn -meltdown-shows-theyre-spoiled-with-power/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mitch needs to work on it.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/15/memo-to-mitch -mcconnell-you-wont-get-judges-if-you-dont-hold-re sistance-accountable-for-russia-hoax/
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sami, which came first? Lucifer, or Prometheus?

Isaiah, 742 bc. First mention of the Devil after the Serpent in Genesis. ( according to Bing search )

Homer, born 751 bc. Assumes everyone already knows the Greek gods, so...

The Greeks didn't have a big Empire occupation of the Fertile Crescent, unlike the Romans during the time of that rebel, Jesus. ( how a Mexican got to Israel is a question unanswered in historical texts ) But there was certainly trade, and a decent scholar in Egypt or Syria or Israel would have known the Greek mythology even if he were Jewish or Zoroastrian & didn't believe.

I personally enjoy the soap opera that is Greek mythology. Zeus was a randy character, couldn't keep it in his robes, and the jealous wife! If I Had to choose a Greek God to worship, I'd pick Athena, or Aphrodite, with Hephaestus a close third. I can't really say if it's my nature to admire the gods of forge, love, and war, or if the actresses from Xena Warrior Princess are influencing me, and don't really care in this hypothetical. ; )

I'm rather less fond of Greek philosophy In it's later, flowery bull flop "look at me, I'm so clever" mode, although the early stuff is foundational.

Ditto, plays. Sophocles...Euripedes, great, but I couldn't think of a Byzantine play off the top of my head.

That's a cultural decay issue. Much like the slow descent of television.


In any case, if we're going to Blatavsky for religious/political theory, we should continue this line in the religious threads.

We pretty much agree that Leftism is a Religion, and the motivation of people can be impossible to discern by mortal means. How can you tell if someone is sincere in their ideology, or exploiting the techniques for selfish gain?

Does it matter? Philosophically, sure.

But Leftism is The Art Of The Con, because no matter how pure the intent of the wasted, over caffeinated college student's dream rebellion, ( which adequately describes Marx ) the bad guys use that impossible promised future paradise on earth, as the hook, knowing it's a pipe dream.
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Sami
Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick, I'm up for continuing this conversation in the theology and philosophy thread. Feel free to create a new thread ('Religion of the Left' as a title suggestion?), otherwise I'll make one after the weekend. We agree that the Left is a religion, a synthesis of heresies to be more precise.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://newcriterion.com/issues/2008/2/inhuman-pow er-of-the-lie-ldquothe-great-terrorrdquo-at-40
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-disa ppeared-heroes-silence-west
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After repeatedly reading the phrase "roaring back in fall" re: the Chinese Communist Party Coronavirus, and the guess that like flu, it will re-explode this fall, I want the catch phrase to apply to...

The American Voter.

I want every would be tyrant to be kicked out of office, if they are up for election.

I want serious work on preventing vote fraud. Specifically, ballot harvesting, must be forbidden in at least Federal elections, and if that means California loses it's votes, then they can politely request the Governor to fix the problem. Hopefully without violence, but I'm not betting that way.

I want other things, but a real backlash on real fraud would be nice.

And the next time I hear how requiring ID to vote is racist, I will continue to respond that only a racist thinks black people are too stupid to get ID. My libertarian leaning means I don't like needing ID to function in a society, but since apparently my vote is at risk of being stolen... ( a judge just ruled they couldn't just not vote at all... )
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://9gag.com/gag/aD43M9K

"democracy" under The Party.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2020/05/13/which-is-worse- for-black-america-covid-or-the-democrats/
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2020/05/17/the-left-is-wha t-it-once-loathed/

If you can point to "The Right" and how it's oppressing me, I'll listen.

I know some smart people that are concerned that "The Right" will impose a Christian Uptight Puritan Dictatorship. They are mostly concerned with the right to kill their unborn babies, which I see a lot of talk about revoking from a small minority of vocal Christians.

Other than that legit worry, ( you may not agree with them, but that proves their point, eh? ) I find the prospect of a Right Wing Dictatorship as likely as the Masons or the Knights of Columbus appearing with an armored division in the capitol. ( less than zero )

I find an Islamist conquest far more likely. Not in my lifetime, because by definition, I'll be dead by the time that happens.

But who would have predicted a dozen years ago, when the Presidential Candidate Barry declared that he was against same sex marriage, ( and if scurrilous rumours are to be believed, Hypocritically ) that the crusade for gays was now over, and they had been replaced by the mentally ill unhappy with the bodies they are born with?
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