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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, glad you made it.

(Medical rant deleted )

Paul Voight? Sure. He rented me the SST I mentioned above. Far better pilot than me. While I'm name dropping, I helped move a buddy into Dennis Pagan's house, ( I had a van ) and he was grumpy the next morning because my girlfriend made too much noise in the guest room. I think he forgave me after I went & got donuts.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2020 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe- I'm simply blessed to have shared a room with you on the way to HC'10.. along with a great ride. Hope I didn't snore too bad.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just learned that the our governor her in MI says that abortions are necessary health care. She justified this view because abortions are "life sustaining".

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer declares abortion a 'life-sustaining' service



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Sifo
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A Teenager Posted About Her COVID-19 Infection on Instagram. A Deputy Threatened To Arrest Her If She Didn't Delete It.

Damn! This is turning into a shit show.
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Strokizator
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks as if the local sheriffs in NW Michigan see things differently than the elites in Lansing.
The sheriffs said that, instead of stringent enforcement, they “will deal with every case as an individual situation and apply common sense.”

They added that they had taken an oath to protect the “God-given rights” of the Michigan and U.S. constitutions. “We believe that we are the last line of defense in protecting your civil liberties,” the release stated.


The spokesman added that they will not be responding to 9-1-1 calls to snitch on your neighbor.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://reason.com/2020/04/17/will-covid-19-help-a mericans-break-the-habit-of-deferring-to-centraliz ed-authority/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doubt it.

People are addicted to suckling at the "gummint" teat. "Government provides for me...so I have to do what they say".

If those coastal "unions" want to do their own thing, that's fine. It's also a recipe for American Revolution 2.0. Newsom calling Cali a "nation-state"? He needs to GO - whether electorally, or by simply kicking Cali out of the Union and moving the wall inland a bit...I don't really care at this point.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/04/18/corona virus-san-clemente-fills-skate-park-with-37-tons-o f-sand-to-block-skaters/

I'm sure the best use of taxpayer's money was to fill a skate park with sand.

That's sarcasm, btw.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020/04/18/chinese -police-arrest-christians-zooming-easter-service/

California or China? If I erased the names, could you tell?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/0 4/17/china-tries-fails-get-wisconsin-pass-law-prai sing-beijing-on-coronavirus/
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Willmrx
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why did the CCP pick Wisconsin to push through this law? Why not New Hampshire, Texas or say Idaho? Let's look into the Wisconsin government officials to see what if any connection they may have with the CCP.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read the article - chances are, they sent it to untold numbers of elected officials. So far, only the WI rep has gone public with it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's some food for thought. I'm trying to keep politics out of the Coronavirus thread, but dammit...it's hard. This has become more about politics than a virus, no matter which way you look at it.

Some good numbers here, and some very good points.

Do you wonder why CA only has 559 CV19 deaths compared to 7,067 deaths in NY?

Welp, researchers at Stanford's School of Medicine suspect it's because CA had already developed "herd immunity" to the virus. They're now conducting a study to find this out.

Makes sense. CA is China's #1 tourist destination in the U.S. -- about 7,000 arrivals from China to CA per day before the travel ban. It's highly likely CV19 has been kicking around CA since October or November. Most people just thought it was a cold or the seasonal Flu.

We don't need an economic lockdown to deal with this. The elderly and frail can hide out for 4-6 weeks or so while the rest of the population develops "herd immunity."
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SWEDEN GETS IT:

"Herd Immunity" develops after about 70% of the population contract the virus.

Building "herd immunity" is how Sweden is dealing with this virus. No lockdown in Sweden. Bars, restaurants and schools are all open in Sweden.

Sweden doing fine -- doing better than the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Switzerland.

Building "herd immunity" is the only way to get rid of a virus when there is no vaccine.

The lockdown was never designed to reduce the number of infections -- only spread them out over time so as not to overwhelm hospitals and ICUs with the 5% or so of those with CV19 who are critically ill.

Turns out we have plenty of ICU beds and plenty of ventilators. So no need for an economic lockdown.

Once the lockdown is lifted, the virus will bounce back to life until "herd immunity" develops. So might as well get this over with quick.

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CUOMO'S HYSTERIA:

Remember when Gov Andrew Cuomo told us NY needed 30,000 ventilators?

Turns out he only needed 5,000.

Ventilators don't seem to work anyway. 80% of CV19 patients die who go on one. Doctors now think invasive ventilators damage the lungs and do more harm than good.

Remember when Cuomo (citing the "experts") told us he would need 150,000 additional hospital beds?

Welp, it turns out hospitalizations in NY from CV-19 peaked at 18,000. No need for those thousands and thousands of hospital beds taxpayers built for him at the Javits Center, in Central Park and in vacant hotels.

No need for that giant Navy hospital ship in New York Harbor either.

Meanwhile, Seattle has shut down its CV19 field hospital built by the Army Corps of Engineers.
Total Patient Count: ZERO.
Yep, never had a single patient. Not one.

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THE MODELS ARE GARBAGE:

Remember back in the day (3 weeks ago) when the UK's Imperial College model everyone was using predicted 2.2. MILLION would die in the U.S. from CV19?

This is what got the panic really going.

Then there was the more sober IHME model from the University of Washington that everyone started using after the Imperial College model blew up.

Last week the White House projected 120,000 to 240,000 deaths based on the IHME model.

Friday, April 3, the IHME model dropped its death estimate to 93,000. Then on Tuesday, April 7, the IHME model dropped its death estimate to 60,000. The White House followed suit, also dropping its estimate to 60,000 deaths.

No, the decline in projected deaths by the IHME model was not because of all the social controls and lockdowns. Drs Fauci and Brix, informed by the IHME model, were projecting 120,000 to 240,000 deaths 10 days ago under the assumption that all the social controls and lockdowns in effect would continue.

So projected deaths are now 60,000 --- basically a typical Flu season.

We can assume this number will continue to fall to something like 30,000.

Not minimizing deaths. Every death is sad.

But 16 MILLION people in the U.S. lost their jobs in the past 3 weeks based on decisions produced by bad data and bad models.

Poverty, no job, and lack of economic activity will kill many more people than this virus.
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Ohio, New York and other states are counting people "suspected" of having CV19 who die as CV-19 deaths without actually conducting tests to know for sure.

Also, all people who have more than one "co-morbidity" who have CV19 are also automatically counted as CV-19 deaths.

According to Dr. Birx, more than half of those who die from CV-19 have three or more other "co-morbidities" -- yup, three or more other medical conditions that might have killed them.

Yes, CV-19 might have been the final straw that broke the camel's back. But they were going to die from something else soon.

I had never heard the word "co-morbidity" until this event.

So why pad the numbers?

Welp, the more deaths from CV19, the more federal money there is for the states. It's best if your state is declared a disaster area.

My state of Florida has been declared a disaster area even though we only have 371 deaths in state of 22 MILLION people.

My county of Broward is considered a CV-19 "hot spot."

Took a trip the other day to the largest drive-thru testing set-up in South Florida. Not a single car there at 2 p.m. even though we're supposedly at the peak of the outbreak.
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MOTIVES FOR THE HOAX:

1) Sink the economy so Dems win in November.

2) Conduct test run to find out how easily the American people can be duped into giving up their freedoms.

3) Transfer power from the people and elected officials over to self-proclaimed "experts" -- who's models are literally always wrong. Wrong not just a little. Wrong by many orders of magnitude. The reason their models are always wrong is their models are not designed to be right. These models are designed to affect political outcomes.

4) Money, prestige, power.

Where's the financial incentive for the modeler to generate models that show a likely outcome something like the Flu?

No one's going to pay any attention to a model that shows 60,000 deaths.

A model showing 2.2 million deaths -- now that's news.
No media appearances, no speaking gigs, no book contracts, no tenure, no government grants if all your model shows is something like the Flu.

It has to be a pandemic that kills millions, tens of millions.

The news also has no financial incentive to report humdrum events -- has every incentive to emphasize the most sensational claims.

And no one is ever held accountable for all these bogus models, studies and claims.

Will Dr. Neil Ferguson lose his job at Imperial College because his model was wildly off -- predicting 2.2 Million deaths in the U.S. alone?

Of course not.

He'll be hailed as the savior of the planet because he succeeded in freaking everyone out so much that we imposed all these lockdowns and social controls on ourselves -- which is really just a test-run for all the lockdowns and social controls they want to impose on us to fix supposed man-caused "climate change."

Ending freedom is the goal . . . so our lives can be micromanaged by these self-proclaimed "experts."
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm trying to keep politics out of the Coronavirus thread

It's BadWeb. Keeping politics out is like trying to keep communism out of the CCP or California.

Poop on Pooh!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen it.
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Willmrx
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ops, My buddy called before I finished reading the rest of the article. He distracted me by wanting to go for a ride.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope you went for a ride!
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Willmrx
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes we did! 218 miles of spring air!
Schumer warns Trump, "Intel officials 'have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" How did he know that?
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm hewing, hemming and hawwing.

I. Want>

DATA.

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86129squids
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/19/suppression-of- expression-obscures-the-truth-about-the-virus/

You are a racist nazi if you dispute any aspect of Global Cooling! You are a stupid racist Nazi if you dispute today's assertion that Trump is to blame for all deaths in all countries, because he... Whatever we say he did or didn't do TODAY, no matter we said the exact opposite yesterday, and will say the exact opposite tomorrow. And tomorrow you will be a stupid Russia puppet racist Nazi if you doubt tomorrow's assertion that Trump murders babies and old people for Putin.

That Big Media is certain you don't have a functional brain and memory of what lies they said yesterday, is obvious by how they change direction faster than the Ministry of Truth in the novel 1984.

I don't have to agree or disagree with this professor of history on how deadly Pooh's Breath is. That's a big issue only in how Big Media, aka the Propaganda machine for The Democrat Party, uses the different spin to try and lie about Trump and by extension infection group identity concentration camp thinking, you.

But don't you remember tomorrow that what they said today is the opposite! That just proves you're stupid, racist Nazi Russian puppets, with white privilege who want to murder black & brown people! You Bastard!
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://spectator.org/the-superstition-of-science/

Mostly questions, but good questions to ask.
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Willmrx
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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For some reason, I felt compelled to post these photos of these bureaucrats.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent article Patrick.
Do you suppose the Pigeon has read it?

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

now, now, I don't insist on decorum, but play nice.

Actually, let me look up decorum.

Oh. Nah, I lack it completely.


dd042020-3

Often has not safe for work, nude, images. Otherwise, it's a funny comic, with patriotic attitude.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/we_ma de_a_terrible_mistake.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/c hina_backs_democratic_resistance_to_president_trum p.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/penns ylvanias_dem_governor_vetoes_goppassed_legislation _to_get_his_state_back_to_work.html

Multifaceted problem.
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Willmrx
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well we can't protest at any state properties, including the Capitol. Okay, no problem. Lets protest at your local News media buildings. KCRA 3, KXTV 10,KVOR 13 in Sacramento or wherever your local news outlets are. Just an idea.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/ca pitol-alert/article242198781.html
And the sheeple abide.
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Willmrx
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a video of Gavin Newsom and his staff and media, not wearing any PPE at a medical manufacturing plant while ALL of the employees are wearing PPE. In my opinion Gavin and is entourage contaminated the entire facility. They Day before this video was taken he was doing a press conference at the USNS Mercy in southern Ca, and again know one at that presser was wearing PPE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWq42xNtiA&featur e=emb_logo
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but if they wear a mask, they can't be SEEN to be generous with your money!

You are just going to have to get over your bad attitude thinking that politicians are subject to the same laws, punishments, morality, and restrictions as you filthy peasants are. ( you decide if that was sarcastic )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So...here's a quote from the Whitmer article about abortion being "life-preserving":

Mr. Axelrod asked Ms. Whitmer whether she thought conservatives were using the pandemic as a “back door” way to try to permanently ban abortions or if temporarily banning them during the crisis was a “legitimate public policy decision.”

“My gut is it’s the former,” the governor replied. “I’m not in Texas, I don’t know all the individuals involved, but I do think there is a concerted effort to use every opportunity to take away women’s ability to make our own health care decisions.”


How about this version?

Mr. Axelrod asked Ms. Whitmer whether she thought liberals were using the pandemic as a “back door” way to try to permanently ban gun rightsor if temporarily banning them during the crisis was a “legitimate public policy decision.”

“My gut is it’s the former,” the governor replied. “I’m not in Texas, I don’t know all the individuals involved, but I do think there is a concerted effort to use every opportunity to take away
citizens ability to make our own personal safety and protection decisions.”

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