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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One thing I have tried to remember to do in life. Question everything!
What if ventilators are the wrong treatment?

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-04-nyc-icu-doc tor-covid-19-oxygen-deprivation-not-pneumonia-vent ilators.html
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and BTW here's an update on M's new project: She's figured a way to make small/medium/large masks with the puppy pads, and improved the rubber band design.


mask
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give me a bit of time to set up a series of how-to pics, I'll post them once she "perfects" the design. Seems she's improving as she goes, and has enlisted her brother to put them together too. I'm working on the honeydo's, getting ready to go grab a free dinner offered by my managementals today.

You guys be good/safe/sane/kind, as per SOP. ; )
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found my respirator user card from 8 years ago to the day. It has the Contaminant/Hazard listed as unknown, and my job as Crane Operator, Metal Worker, Welder. On the plus side the date expired is NEVER. I couldn't believe I had to get fitted.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get fit tested annually for my Asbestos License and my NYC DOB license.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was a 95 not a 100% respirator. I can see the annual requirement with Asbestos.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo vows to seize ventilators and PPE from private hospitals and companies not using them: ‘Let them sue me’

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-c oronavirus-in-us-updates-20200403-x54uffc44zagtoj3 uadzcgxoze-story.html
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am amazed by zinc. As a child I made steel cased rocket engines using zinc as fuel. Later in life I found it stopped colds from getting worse when used in solution with a nasal swab. I found this abstract today:

The role of zinc in the treatment of taste disorders.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23305423
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad, How old is that hat?
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, that's my new one.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like 2018 model judging from the brim.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ohhh snap.

Everybody watch this please before yootoob deletes it.

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/ via-local-commie-underlings-beijing-officially-dis approves/news-story/491b415795fbbdc526d33d5b569134 a4

Appropriate response.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://spectator.us/ventilators-arent-panacea-pan demic-coronavirus/
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/31/the-real-coro navirus-chronology-shows-trump-was-on-top-of-it-wh ile-biden-was-mocking-the-danger/#.Xoj6GH-t3hF.twi tter@CletaMitchell
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever Fking news source you follow, be safe.

Court, good eye as usual. Just started wearing this one, as my step-dad calls it, it's my "go to hell" hat. Right on time to retire the old one (2018) to garden work. Guess we're all on Hade's gravel road. Fits a bit strange due to no haircut lately. Very scared to have the Dominican I'm quarantined with given sharp things to cut my hair.

Next time anyone sees me, just call me'Squatch, not Squids.


In all seriousness, cover your schnoz and pie-holes in public. Eyes too, but I wear glasses. Try not to need to even go out. Let's see how things look by my Bday in late May. When most all of our nation's state governors are saying/mandating STF home, why not listen??

Again- whether it's Bannon's channel, Murdoch's, Soros', Gore's, F them all. Take care of you and yours, do the correct things, let's ride this bitch out.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW, since that last glamour pic of yours truly, M has improved the design at least 3 times.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tips From Someone With Nearly 50 Years Of Social Distancing Experience
April 1, 20205:00 AM ET
RAE ELLEN BICHELL

FROM
KUNC


Billy Barr lives in Gothic, Colo., a silver mining town that was abandoned more than 100 years ago.
Courtesy of Billy Barr
We're all social distancing these days, and it's unclear when exactly that will end. But Billy Barr has been doing this for almost 50 years. He's the only full-time resident of Gothic, Colo.

"I'm the mayor and chief of police," he said. "I hold elections every year, but I don't tell anybody when they are, so it works out really well."

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He lives in an abandoned silver mine at nearly 10,000 feet in altitude in the Rocky Mountains. "The snow's going sideways, it's swirling," Billy Barr said of the local weather.

Barr has tips on social distancing, but he's the first to say they may well be entirely useless.

"When I first got here, it was a relief for me to be on my own, but that's not necessarily what a healthy person does — isolate themself," he said. "I mean, I'm good at it and I do it because I like it, but what works for me, it works for me. It quite conceivably wouldn't work for anybody else."

While Barr has been called a hermit, he doesn't consider himself one. He occasionally interacts with skiers who pass through, he talks to his sister on the phone, and he works for the Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory nearby, which gets flooded with scientists in the summer.

But the man has been living alone in a cabin in the mountains for many years, and in the winter months, he can go many days without seeing a soul. So staying home during the COVID-19 outbreak?

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"Yeah, I mean this is no change for me," he said. "I come into winter with almost all my food already in."

So, without further ado, here are five recommendations for the Billy Barr method of social distancing.

1. Keep track of something.

Each day, Barr tracks the weather for a number of groups including the Colorado Avalanche Information Center. He started measuring snow levels in the 1970s, mostly because he was bored.

"Everything depends on the weather," said Barr, who has skied through that "sideways" and "swirling" snow to talk on the phone from the laboratory. "It controlled what I did and so I would write it all down."

He would also write down when he saw an animal.

"With the birds, especially the ones that arrive in the spring, it was exciting," he said. "It was like, 'Oh my goodness, it's sunrise and I can hear robins.' "

Turns out, monitoring things that were important to his daily life had real value. As The Atlantic has written and the documentary The Snow Guardian has shown, his records have informed dozens of studies on climate change.


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In the era of COVID-19, he suggests tracking what you can — or can't — find at the grocery store. Or, better yet, participating in some citizen science, like a project called CoCoRaHS that tracks rainfall across the country.

"I would definitely recommend people doing that," he said. "You get a little rain gauge, put it outside and you're part of a network where there's thousands of other people doing the same thing as you, the same time of the day as you're doing it. It's very interesting."

2. Keep a routine.

Barr starts early. He wakes up around 3:30 a.m. or 4 a.m., and stays in bed until about 5 a.m.

"Up until a week or two ago, I would listen to the news every morning so that I could start every day either totally depressed or furious. That's always a good way to start the day," he said.

"Now with the whole COVID and with politics and stuff," he said he just can't anymore. So, he listens to old-time radio instead.

Then it's time to clear the snow off his solar panels and file weather reports to a bunch of different agencies. The rest of the day involves work and chores interspersed with skiing.

"I kind of follow a set time schedule," said Barr. "Sometimes I forget what day it is, but I know what time it is."

Most importantly, he said, is leaving a reward for the end of the day. He'll read, knit something, watch a movie and then watch a game of cricket.

"It's pretty much the same day after day. Most of it I enjoy," he said.

Notably absent from his daily routine: keeping a personal journal. He said he used to, for about a decade or so, but then he went back and read it. "And it was so boring. It's like, 'OK enough already. Let me go watch some paint dry.' "

3. Celebrate the stuff that matters, rather than the stuff you're supposed to celebrate.

Barr has mostly ditched holidays and birthdays, but he does celebrate Jan. 17, when sunrise goes back to what it was on the solstice.

"To me, that's a big deal because I get up so early in the morning that the lighter it gets, earlier, makes my day a lot easier," he said.

He also celebrates when he gets back from skiing 8 miles each way into the town of Crested Butte for supplies.

"Town can be kind of stressful," he said. "So I save my favorite movies and I save my favorite meals and I save things to do so when I ski back from town and I'm home, it's like, 'Woohoo!' Big party time."

4. Embrace the grumpiness.

Sometimes, Barr said, it's kind of satisfying to be grumpy about something.

"I do get sick and tired of snow, but I like kidding about it. I live in an area where people live for snow, but I'm not that carried away with it, so I like being grumpy about it," Barr said. "You get older and you start saying 'OK, I'm not going to necessarily be pleasant when I don't feel pleasant.' "

These days, Barr is feeling especially unpleasant.

"Ironically, I have been in contact with one person in the last nine days. That was eight days ago," he said.

And then the guy got sick.

"I don't know what he has, but for the last week, I've been sitting around wondering If I'm going to get it," Barr said. (Another week has passed since this interview.)

Which brings us to his final tip...

5. Use movies as a mood adjuster.

"If I'm really stressed I might watch an animated movie, something cute and funny that takes my mind off it. If I'm depressed, I can reverse that," he said.

"My tastes are reasonably fluff-oriented," he said. Movies like Pandemic or The Shining? Hard pass. "The Princess Bride is my pretty much favorite movie. I like Hugh Grant stuff, like Love Actually, Notting Hill."

He also recommends Bollywood movies like Om Shanti Om, Bride and Prejudice and English Vinglish.

"They're colorful. They're pretty, there's good music and stuff," he said. "I have a list of favorites that I'll only watch under certain circumstances. I save them for that."

Here are the 357 movies at the top of his list.

About 20 years ago, Barr added a movie room onto his cabin. It has a projector, carpeted walls, and three chairs.

"I have a nice chair for me and I have two other chairs with the idea that I'd invite people up," he said. "And I never do."

This story was produced by the Mountain West News Bureau, a collaboration between Wyoming Public Media, Boise State Public Radio in Idaho, KUER in Salt Lake City, KUNR in Nevada, the O'Connor Center for the Rocky Mountain West in Montana, and KRCC and KUNC in Colorado. Funding for the Mountain West News Bureau is provided in part by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe (RatBuell):

You might want to check the stats on California. Newsome is apparently kicking the CCP-virus' arse and giving credit to the Trump team for all their help.

Maybe there's hope yet.

NYC is the most densely population city in America, yeah. It's partly that and partly the mayor telling people to go out to a show, but like Trump, he was only following the lead of the lying WHO.

When it comes to stuff like this, it's uncool to try to use it to score political points. Let the Pelosis and Schiffs do that. Special place in the toasty place for them.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Latest plots.

FYI, New York state with 30 daily deaths per million is worse than Spain and Italy, double the 15 per million daily death rate of Italy. 50% higher than Spain's peak rate of 15 daily deaths per million. It's essentially all NYC metro area. Lots of folks in a small area.


CCP-virus Daily Death Toll for Spain, Italy, USA, & S. Korea
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 04:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cuomo has been demanding 30k or whatever ventilators. It'll be interesting to ever find out how many were actually used. No MSM "journalist" will ever tell.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 04:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Semi-log versions for Tom, first is daily mortality, second is cumulative...


CCP-virus Daily Death Toll for Spain, Italy, USA, & S. Korea




CCP-virus Cumulative Death Toll for Spain, Italy, USA, & S. Korea
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Blake
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom,

USA is diverging from Italy and Spain even on a logarithmic scale. That's some serious divergence.

Note that on a semi-log plot, two rising curves that appear to be parallel or offset by a constant distance are in fact diverging numerically.

Here's the XY version, which makes it more clear...


CCP-virus Total Cumulative Death Toll for Spain, Italy, USA, & S. Korea
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’d like to know the ventilators and PPE required vs on-hand.

I think supplies are diminished and dangerously low but I’m not convinced any patient has died to to inability to get a ventilator.

I suspect the USA . . . With a history of rising to a challenge. . . Is making ventilators. . .in a variety of forms. . . At an amazing pace.
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been following the interaction between 3M....the feds. . . The DOA ... the Chinese and the Canadians and Latin Americans.

Telling
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/a _solution_to_covid19_is_in_sight.html

The permanent bureaucracy is dragging it's heels on testing, treatment, and vaccines.

It remains to be seen which kind of cocktail will be needed to fix the problem, drug or Molotov.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/the_c oronavirus_fix_is_too_politically_incorrect_to_imp lement.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/h ow_reliable_are_the_coronavirus_numbers.html
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

March 27 was when I predicted about 2 weeks to hit 10,000 total deaths in the US. It's day 10 and short of a true miracle, we will top 10,000 deaths today.

Blake, you have obviously not understood what I said about looking at the log chart. Or you are trying to mock me. The ONLY point I made was that it allows you to easily see if the rate of exponential growth has changed. This is not something you can easily pick out visually on a linear chart. Yes, you can see the trajectory until it changes. I was pretty on target with us hitting the 10,000 mark using that method. Plotting a daily number on a log chart simply makes no sense to me, so don't bother attributing that to me. I never suggested such a thing.

What I still don't understand from you is that you are totally focused on the death statistic. Again, it is one of the last statistics to show the change in the epidemic. Up to date infection rates would be great, but we simply will never have that data. Confirmed cases is the next best thing. As I said, it showed an obvious turn to the down side 10-14 days before the deaths. Barring a change in care of the infected (2 example would be overrunning health care services, or wide spread adoption of an improved treatment) the ratio of confirmed cases to deaths will remain quite consistent.


Ohhh snap.

Everybody watch this please before yootoob deletes it.


I'm not shocked that Italy is coding WuFlu deaths liberally. There are several flags that were raised in that video aside from the interruption to sell me something. First, a terminal cancer patient can certainly die from WuFlu. We weren't even told what kind of cancer. If the virus caused complications that lead them to die earlier than the cancer would have taken them, then it's a pretty reasonable COD. The next was where he said that "only 12% of death certificates have show a direct causality from corona virus". Again, it's not clear if that's 12% of all death certificates, or 12% of death certificates that listed corona virus as COD. He uses the latter to do some calculations, but they may be horrifically off base. With corona virus becoming the new leading COD in many places, 12% may be pretty much on target. The fact that he is reading from something written by a "professor who is an adviser to the Italian minister of health", I would expect pretty precise terminology from him, especially in a written document. That would lead me to think that this video is taking what may be a fairly minor over statement of CODs and turning it into something that is grossly overstated. Keep in mind, there are factors that do explain the high death rates in Italy. To name a few, a population that is weighted toward elderly, high percentage of smokers, and a health care system that failed to keep up with demand.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone figured out if our standard death rate from all causes combined has went up or down?



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Court
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It occurs to me that “death” is one of the few finite, measurable, variables in the mix.

Most other variables are both a guess and difficult . . . With a 2 week latency period. . . To capture in any meaningful way.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2020 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figure we have driven enough causes of death off that we may be ahead. that is until the unemployment death rise in a few months.
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