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     Tootal |
As a few have seen is my enormous Harley Road Glide. It's a 2002 with 108,000 miles on her but not on the engine. I like to play too much! I've been doing research into converting it to fuel injection. That's something I'd never had considered ten years ago, but since I bought the Uly and learned ECMSPY I've come to appreciate what FI can do for you. During this research I found NOBODY that had done it and talked about it. A few asked about it on forums but were quickly shut down by carburetor kinsmen. Something I was myself in the day. There were tons of guys converting their FI to a carb, dime a dozen. Just not the other way around. So I did my own research in service manuals and Ronnie's mail order microfisch parts views and numbers. What I found out was that 2002-2005 models had both carbs and FI, therefore the main wiring harness was the same and just a minor wiring harness was different. With this I started looking for used parts. A big shout out to Fallen Cycles in Daytona Beach Florida for all their help and parts. They had a 2003 FL they had parted out and I was able to get the gas tank, FI wiring harness, coil, fuel pump assembly and throttlebody. Here's some pics from the transformation:  After the strip down I wanted to see how the wiring was laid out so I could get it back. And yes, I know it's filthy! A friend once told a dealer, after they commented on how dirty his bike was, "I ride the damn thing, I don't worship it!"   Here you can see the programmable ignition module and then the Mikuni flatslide carb.  She's missing the carb and intake manifold along with the carb wiring harness.  After the installation of the FI wiring harness we've added the Thunder-Max self tuning EFI. This included two wide band O2 sensors installed front and rear.    Here you can see the throttlebody. The S&S air cleaner fit. They used the same bolt pattern as the carb. The FI wiring harness is all in place. I went through the programming procedure by downloading a map reasonably close to my build. Turn on the key and it fired up!! It's fricken Magic!! It started to learn the idle afr and it was fun watching the afr trim up to the programmed afr. Too bad the roads are full of salt and 32 degrees! So now I wait for a sunny day after a good rain to see how this is going to work. All I can say now is the throttle response is much better! | ||
| Crusty |
You realize that you're making me want to get a Fuel injected Roadster even more, I hope. I really liked the way the injected Roadster ran and the way the suspension felt when I took one out for a Demo ride. I should have one before another year passes. I hope your bike delivers everything you're wanting from the modifications you've made. It sounds like it does, so far. | ||
| Ducbsa |
OT, but for me, the Roadster pegs were in a bad spot. I almost dumped it several times on a demo ride. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Been wondering how this was going... There's going to be some intense scrutiny of this transformation next month in Suches. | ||
| Ourdee |
I want a look. | ||
| Tq_freak |
DUDE!!!! Like I needed ANOTHER project What sits next to my two Buells is a 2001 FLHT Dresser with a Carb It has just under 60K on it, but mines the original motor. I actually have the fairing gutted off it to fix the sun bleach spots. The idea of fuel injection on that pig would be awesome. Its the worst fuel mileage out of my three bikes (not surprised its also weights as much as the other two together) I would really love a more detailed list of what you did. I know 2001 was the last year of all Carb so the harness is probably all wrong and would be a pain. Might be a really fun challenge. Oh, I'm also 15 min north of Daytona. I need to look that guy up for parts | ||
| Tootal |
Well you can do it but it's a little harder. Your FI wiring harness is a one year item so you'd have to find a 2001. The tank was the same from 2000 to 2002. I was able to go with a 2003 tank because the wiring harness was the same up through 2005 but the 2003 throttlebody is different on the fuel inlet but it matched the tank. If you look at Harley part numbers the last two digits is the year they started that part. Using the microfisch on ronniesmailorder.com I was able to see what will work with what. It took a while to figure it all out. So it's doable on your bike, it's just the harness might have been on a 2001 but changed in 2002. You have to change your fuel tank so you can get the fuel pump assembly in unless you can figure out where to put an external pump and filter and bypass valve. I just got another tank. | ||
| Tootal |
Later this week our temps are to drop down to 5 degrees. My toy is in a storage garage and the coolant was changed over ten years ago! I don't want to risk a cracked block so I want to get it in the garage at home. The temps were in the high 30's yesterday so I finished assembling the Road Glide and went out for a ride. It stumbled a couple of times at first but it soon started running better and better. By the time I arrived at the storage unit it was running better than it ever has. Performance isn't any better really which I expected. The driveability was a major improvement. No more coughing, just smooth power. What an improvement! I'm looking forward to dialing it in even more but for now it's back in storage till the weather gets better. 2" of white stuff tonight. | ||
| Buellish |
Cue hands clapping! Greg,what are you calling your "toy"? | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Ourdee |
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| Tootal |
 The toy. Boy, I forgot how bad my old driveway was! Anyway, 1989 BMW M3. | ||
| Buellish |
I forgot,we were talking cars at TWOS one day and you told me you had the M3.You autocross it right? A friend of mine bought a 2018 Audi S3 and has been autocrossing it and has done a couple of track days at Road Atlanta. | ||
| Pwnzor |
That is a sweet ride, I bet everybody drools over it when you take it out. | ||
| Tootal |
It's definitely fun! In order to race them in European touring car champion races they had to make a street version with the same engine and external dimensions. They made a total production of 17,970 but only 5300 in US trim. Many have been turned into race cars and crashed. The numbers have dropped off enough where it's getting to be a rarity on the road. I used mine for drivers schools. As an instructor I was paid in track time. There's probably about 10,000 miles of track time on the car. I put a fully adjustable suspension from Ground Control under it. It still rides decent with the adjustable Koni's softened up. It will go around a corner amazingly well. Not a drag car though. With the original chip in it blue haired old ladies would leave you from a stop light unless you did a 4 grand hole shot! All HP, not much torque! |
