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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...always with the race excuse, or the girl excuse.

It's never because you just suck (not like THAT...although, in this case apparently....).

People like Harris need to realize that sometimes, you just aren't going to get elected BECAUSE you're a woman of color.

You need to have qualifications. You need to have redeeming qualities. You need to be...electABLE, and show a valid reason for getting elected.

"I'm not a white male" doesn't make the cut, not buy itself.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of the D candidates, I "like" Tulsi Gabbard best, by far. I disagree with her on several issues, but there's no need to get into that, since apparently she is simply not Communist Enough to get traction with the Democrat Party Supreme Leadership.

So we who registered as D to vote in their primary have some interesting, if horrible choices.

Booker seems he couldn't make the Party cut for the next Hatefest & Promises Impossible To Keep event. ( debate doesn't describe it at all ) Booker has imaginary friends, is outspoken about being against Constitutional rights, and someone told me he's "of color", which means nothing to me. CRazy, dishonest, and eager to send someone in a mask to kick my door down is plenty to not vote for him. Also he seems to think he's Kirk Douglas.

Just Joe is melting down mentally to the point I can't tell if any quotes from him are real or made up by folk with a sick sense of humor. Plus his obvious corruption, and the increasing probability that Obama will have him murdered to keep him from testifying. Anywhere. Ever.

Warren is refusing to answer questions about her promises, which worked for Obama, but I doubt/hope won't fly with a generation who were already lied to about keeping their health insurance and it getting cheaper by Obama. Especially since she kinda sorta says she's going to take everyone's health insurance, and replace it with cheaper tax paid insurance.

But won't get into the minor detail that while you might be paying $6000 a year for Blue Cross today, under her plan you'll probably pay $8000 in taxes, PLUS whatever you pay for the insurance, which will probably double based on the nation's experience with Obamacare.

Then there's Bernie. The nicest thing I can say about him, is that thanks to a health care system he would destroy, he probably will live to last out the Trump administration.

Oh, and people like Bernie are a great example of why it's important to learn history. At least the last few centuries where his religion has murdered more people than war.

Then there's the incompetent, ignorant, pandering, guy. At least he's Gay.

And Hillary. Who I have no dirt on, and have nothing bad to say about her.

Michelle should be too smart to run. She has little chance of tolerating criticism without freaking out, so it's best she avoid going up against the Troll In Chief Bad Orange Man.

If there are others, besides one of the 10 richest guys on the planet, I've forgotten them, since the Media is too busy making up anonymous sources to actually report on news.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of the D candidates, I "like" Tulsi Gabbard best, by far.

I have to agree, she is the least likely to get a double face palm if elected. I'm not sure she has any name recognition though.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“And Hillary. Who I have no dirt on, and have nothing bad to say about her”

Smart : )
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Gabbard torches Harris"

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/the -fall-of-kamala-harris.php

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/did -harris-fail-because-shes-a-woman-of-color.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/cor ys-complaint.php

Harris was half Brahmin Indian, ( India Indian ) and half Jamaican. ( part English purchased from Arabs imported from Africa black, part white, ) Considers herself American Black, which she is by cultural immersion. Oakland Black American. From Wikipedia She identifies as black[12] and Indian, but sees her experience primarily as American.[13] Harris was raised in Berkeley, California.[14] She grew up attending both a Black Baptist church, where she and her sister sang in the choir, and a Hindu temple.[15][16]

I'd consider her typical American Oakland Cali upper upper middle /lower upper class. I'm not a lifetime Klan Party loyalist so the mixed race background seems normal & I don't need a name to make her inhuman.

I'd consider her more "authentic" black American than Barry, who spent his early years in the Pacific islands. And has a Klan Party racial discrimination title, although only rude people use it.

Booker, OTOH said he's Thracian. I should probably look him up, as that's probably a lie. ; )

And it's certainly not my fault his Party members didn't give him enough money or signatures to keep in the debates. ( that is how you buy in, right? Or are there fixed polls involved? ) I assume there just wasn't the impression that he had a chance, so why bribe him? Save his bribes for re-election time.

Harris got left out because she was too law & order authoritarian for her Party. Wrong mix. Authoritarian & hypocritical is fine for a D candidate, but the cop/prosecutor aspect is not. ( it would be better for a R candidate )

Whether or not she was the best to put up against Trump? It was thought so by many, but her fail to deal better with Gabbard in the debate? It's possible she just hadn't prepared a comeback that didn't play the race & sex card.

In some ways she reminds me of Ben Carson. He didn't do gotcha questions well at all. She has long experience in bull, as a legal worker, so should & has been much better at that. His medical training didn't prepare him for politics. But both will be remembered for the single point of failure in their run. Even though the context was completely different.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This Bloomberg guy really takes the cake...

https://www.theepochtimes.com/michael-bloomberg-ta x-the-poor-for-their-own-good_3166243.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


malarkey1



biden2



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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bernie supporters don’t believe in snow, so why should they shovel it?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/12/d emocrat_climate_extremism_a_boon_to_conservatives_ .html

Increase taxes over 400%. No jobs. No transportation you can afford. ( Can you ride a horse? Pay a veterinary bill? Can't park a pony in the shed all winter, either ) No fresh food. Little canned goods. Troops guarding the near empty supermarkets. No refrigeration. ( no milk, cows fart. No Coors outside Colorado. No Lean Cuisine frozen entrees. )

True, China has murdered more people in one decade that the entire population of the U.S., But 10 times the death count of our Civil War is the fewest you can expect.

And that's optimistic.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2019 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2019/12/09/obama-and-biden -three-scandals-one-day/

For those too lazy to read. Obama lied. Obama lied. Biden and Obama criminally abused power. & lied.

My opinion is Biden might claim to be unfairly treated because of the crimes Obama committed that he knew nothing about. Everyone would buy that Obama didn't inform him, knowing he's a Ditz who can't keep his mouth shut. No one in his right mind would trust Joe with important or incriminating secrets.

Even his refusal to admit there were any scandals in the 8 years he had the job can be spun as ignorance of any crimes, and a job insulated from reality, not his fault!

Thus his best defense is to claim to be too stupid to notice he was working for criminals. Everyone would buy that.

Doesn't seem like a great recommendation for the job he seeks, but I can see how that's extremely attractive to evil rich people to own a puppet idiot they put in power.

Unfortunately I'm not an evil rich guy, so you can understand my unhappiness.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2019 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/the -democrats-bad-poker-faces.php

Possibly better over on the Trump thread, but the possibility that Mitch could "go along" with the Democrats and have a full Senate trial as DEMANDED by law and Pelosi, is important.

A lot of people think it most likely Mitch will simply reject an impeachment trial on the true and obvious grounds that the impeachment proceedings in the House were unjust, biased, dishonest, pure Party Politics, lies, without merit, obviously false, etc.

But that would be a horrible mistake, partly because it would allow the Dems to accuse the Reps of partisan illegality ( as the House circus is, in fact. Accuse others of your crimes strategy, obviously ) leading to Republican losses in the election.

But mostly because it would be true on several levels some very "meta".

There apparently will be an impeachment vote. If Nancy can thug her reluctant members ( who may lose their jobs if they vote to her wishes ) it will pass. A real, legal indictment. Bogus, almost certainly, but Real.

That Has to be followed up on. It's the law. And the roaches must be dragged into the light and shown to have broken their own laws so this never happens again.

And insisting on a thorough, detailed, trial over the critical primary election weeks, a timing the Speaker of the House herself caused, will disrupt the pretense of actual representative choice in the Democrat Party selection process. Cries of the Establishment cheating to get their elite choice, just like last election, will be justified, true, and worst of all, protecting a corrupt, criminal choice. Again.

It's too much to ask for to expect any Biden to be called as witness, or be investigated. But many pundits are creaming their boxers over the idea. I'm too cynical to buy that actual laws will apply to the Party Elite.

And the longer the Trial takes, the better the odds that a nuke, asteroid, comet, or Antifa strike will wipe out Congress.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2019 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it goes to trial in the Senate, there will be no hiding for the "whistle blower". That is the original accuser that lead to all of this (OK, I don't really believe that either), and Trump has a right to face him. No doubt we will see the same "witnesses" again, to be hammered on the fact that they have already testified under oath that they have no first hand knowledge of any sort of quid-pro-quo, regardless of what they may have assumed. I think the highlight though would be having dad and son Biden on the stand, under oath. I'm not sure if either of them is up to the task of keeping to a simple set of lies. No doubt they will also be calling on Schiff just to tear him a new place from which to poo. I wonder who from the FBI they might call in for an under oath grilling.

Honestly, I don't much like the idea that they are talking of holding up USMCA to do all of this though. The sooner that is passed, the sooner the country will reap the benefits.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2019 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/12/san ders-endorses-misogynist-cenk-uygur-then-thinks-be tter-of-it.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2019 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/12/14 /joe-biden-falsely-boasts-about-getting-gop-votes- for-obamacare/

Joe reminisces about his days freeing slaves in the Civil War as one of Quantrill's Raiders.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2019 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7793275 /DOUGLAS-MURRAY-Britains-divide-ugly-intolerant-Le ft-rest-us.html

It's too easy to point out the overlap on a Venn diagram of policy & pronouncements.

They didn't used to be indistinguishable. The Dems are much older, establishment, while Labour was anti-establishment union worker based neo-Marxist.

But the Dems have morphed over time with the rise of Marxism in the leadership, adopted Alinsky as strategy, and went from open racism, to hidden, to class envy/war as outlet to & exploitation of hatred.

Venn diagram? Ah, yes.

Immigration to get permanent voting blocks to replace the working class.

Elite, urban rich money invested to keep monopolies. "I've got mine, so no one else can get this rich" ( as true for the Wall Street mega firms as Facebook )

Patriotism is for idiots.

Abandon the working class, ungrateful wretches! ( urban rich leaders )

Gut the military, spend far more than comes in on welfare state programs, never mind if they are objective failures, that just means we didn't spend enough working class money! Ungrateful wretches.

I could go on. Anti-Semitism, Balkanization of sexes, professions, cop hate, etc. etc.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2019 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe Biden is my hero.

Thank you, Joe Biden. Thank you sir, for taking it upon yourself to hand the 2020 election over to Donald Trump.

Thank you.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You just can't make this stuff up... it's comedy gold.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/warren-held-high-dol lar-fundraiser-at-winery-before-knocking-buttigieg -over-wine-cave_3181620.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/what_ view_on_race_does_the_elizabeth_warren_campaign_sh are_with_apartheid_south_africa.html

Asians are white. White Hispanics are not white.

So what is whiter than white fake native American? Racist. She's racist.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 05:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/marij uana_law_and_the_2020_elections.html

Speaking of racism. The idea that legalizing marijuana is racial justice is playing on the comedian's joke that white people don't go to jail for possession.

I don't know about today, but that didn't used to be reality,

Instead this strongly reminds me of my Father's attitude from the 1970's that marijuana was the drug of black jazz musicians. ( hilariously lampooned in an episode of That 70's Show where young Tommy Chong gets a ride home from his discharge from the Army. )

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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All drugs need to be decriminalized.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://babylonbee.com/news/el-paso-man-comes-down -from-insane-acid-trip-where-he-ran-for-president
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/joe_b iden_goes_full_thunberg_on_climate_hysteria.html
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All drugs need to be decriminalized.

I have mixed feelings on this.

On one hand, millions of people having direct, legal access to Meth, Dragonfly, Krokodil, Heroin, or even things like Dianabol and Tren.... Catastrophic results.

On the other hand, Darwin and Murphy would be purifying the Gene Pool.

Realistically, there would be thousands, millions (more), who would be jacked up for life, and dependent on tax dollars to get their meds and food stamps.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Truth #1.

Years ago PBS had a debate. "Drug prohibition, is it a failure?"

one side had a left Congresscritter, a lefty reporter/pundit, and the doctor who "cleaned up" the Navy's drug crisis in the 1970's. ( when officers didn't care go into certain areas of a ship )

The other side had a right Congresscritter, William F. Buckley, and the doctor in charge of Brooklyn's ERs.

Not one thought prohibition worked.

The left side favored harsher enforcement, more government power, more, more more. ( congress's approach )

The right side favored ending prohibition, and the funds used for rehab. ( The Nixon approach )

The most telling argument with real numbers came from the Brooklyn Emergency Room doc. Most of his business, and deaths, came from shooting & stabbing over drug turf. By far. In all of New York city, that year, 8 died of drug overdose. Hundreds to one. Real world.

So, yes, there would be a few thousand more overdoses, and dependent junkies. And tens of thousands less murders.

Unpleasant truth #2.

Bill Clinton got tens of thousand$ in bribes & rented out the Lincoln bedroom to a Columbian drug lord. Not to end prohibition. To keep up the cartel's monopoly.

Thus. Yes, bad side effects. Yes, less murder & crime. By far more dead, wounded, and made rich by prohibition than legalization.

And legalizing drugs gets government a little out of our lives. Libertarian better, eh?
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/yes_j oe_biden_really_is_that_dumb.html
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Realistically, there would be thousands, millions (more), who would be jacked up for life, and dependent on tax dollars to get their meds and food stamps.

I disagree. The same people who are on drugs now would continue to be so. The difference is they wouldn't be thrown in prison for the mere possession of drugs. You and I (presumably) would continue to make smart decisions and not destroy our own lives with this stuff.

Throwing a drug addict in prison does NOT help them in any way. I've observed this first hand.

In my version of The Law, there would be some adjustments.

Needles would be illegal to carry on the street unless they are in an unopened package. They can't be thrown on the ground if they're not being used. Get caught, they get taken away and you're issued a citation which can be paid online. No need to clog up the courts for stupid infractions. Don't pay it? Good luck trying to register your car next year. The fine gets tacked on to your vehicle registration. Simple. Life gets inconvenient for those who don't pay.

Smoking of drugs: Same rules as we already have for cigarettes. If you're doing it where somebody else could potentially inhale it, then you shouldn't be doing it. Private establishments free to make their own rules. If you want to run an opium den, then you get what you asked for. Break the rules and get caught? Citation. Pay online. Don't pay? Vehicle registration goes up. Don't have a car? Cell phone bill goes up. Something like that, whatever. It's not rocket science, and doesn't need to be.

If you are committing ANY crime that might ostensibly be for the purposes of acquiring drugs, and/or are in possession of drugs, and/or under the influence of same during the commission of said crime, then that becomes an ENHANCEMENT to the crime... but you are prosecuted for the CRIME itself.

Prison beds are expensive... and WE are paying for them. Prison "budgets" are out of control.

By law, the budgets for correctional facilities are posted on the wall of the common areas so that the prisoners can read them. Not that many inmates would understand, but it's pretty basic math. Depending on the security level of the inmate, a prison bed - just the bed, mind you - costs the state anywhere from $300 per day all the way up to $3000 per day.

Ever wonder why, in most cases, inmates are discharged in the middle of the night? It's done at the stroke of midnight, because the people in charge of such things have to make sure that EVERY bed is occupied 100% of the time. That inmate doesn't hit the street until 2 or 3 am, because it takes time to get processed out, but that bed is empty for exactly 1 minute per day. Money out, money in.

We can save that money for actual criminals. People who would barge into your home and steal your possessions and potentially your life. We can free up the courts to prosecute actual crimes and mete out justice on behalf of people who have been actually victimized.

People will always find ways to kill themselves, it's a sad fact. It is easier for us to help them out here on the streets than it is when they mired in the system fighting a bullshit prosecution because they wanted to get high.

(Message edited by pwnzor on January 01, 2020)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You and I (presumably) would continue to make smart decisions and not destroy our own lives with this stuff.

WE know better.

The problem with decriminalization is, the new generation doesn't have the "drugs are bad, mmmmkay?" frame of reference, so there would literally be zero deterrent in their minds. Usage would skyrocket among the young, because, well, the law says it's OK. Even if the law says it's EVENTUALLY (i.e. age-based) OK, you'll still have underage issues. See: underage drinking, smoking, vaping. "Regulated" substances with rules that are ignored.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Darwin - we're breeding way too much stupid these days. But I think this would be more of a culling than anyone expects, and in the meantime our national productivity, economy, and structure would go rapidly down the shitter when many upstanding folks who have previously thought "I won't do that because it's illegal", would now decide "hm, it's legal...let's give it a shot".
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Zane
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I have libertarian leanings myself I do have a question. If w take the approach that drug use is a personal choice what is societies responsibilities. If someone ODs on heroin should the paramedics show up and pump them full of Narcan? What is societies responsibility when someone exercises the all then self determined freedoms?
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2020 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you take the Greenie radical view, less people, less pollution, good.

Or less people, better pay, good.

That's pretty darn cynical. But it would NOT really work out that way because for every Darwin Award winning fool, ( which could be your child ) you'd not have dozens of drug gang gunshot/stabbing victims. ( which could be your child, involuntarily )

The main reason drugs are illegal is it's Big Money to run prisons and Big Money to steal cars, boats, and Property for the Police Department.

BIg money prison investors bribe politicians to keep drugs illegal.

Illegal drug sellers bribe politicians to keep drugs illegal.

Politicians love being bribed. So drugs are illegal.

All the other factors are tiny vs. That Greed.
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