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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like KTM copied Buell S1 design







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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who copied whom?
Trellis frames have existed for a long time.

Here is one from 1993

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Here is one from 1961:

wq
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The duck has a valve train inspired by Rube Goldberg's designs and the Katoom's stylist was enraptured with a bucket of used razor blades.

Neither captures the essence of an S1
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The exhaust headers
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S1 is as raw a motorcycle that's ever been made. The KTM is sharp, focused, and refined in comparison in execution, build, and aesthetics.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the header has some similarity, but I think that's about where it ends.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick I was in agreement with you till the and aesthetics.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Rick I was in agreement with you till the and aesthetics.



The KTM is sharp...as in sharp and pointy, no? The Buell looks like a 1980's standard and dirt tracker made babies.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like the sharp edges just for sharp edges look. Just me? May be.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe it's because I have a beard that I dislike motorcycles that look like used razor blades. By my aesthetics, the KTM looks like a barber's nightmare.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with RD. The KTM design is like origami and manga masticated.

MV Agusta designs still follow classic lines. They're not great, but still good. Ducati tries and does a good job on several bikes. Triumph's more classic twins are good, leave alone several others. The Indian Scout looks good in person.

BMW's RnineT kinda nails it. There are a few new bikes that are actually pretty/sexy.

#Aesthetics matter.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now I will accept the blade look on the Kawasaki Ninja H2R. At 249 mph, I think there should be wings. Would I open one up given the chance? My life insurance is paid.
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was a SuperDuke that made me trade in my Tenere for the Super Adventure SAR. Love that motor!
But I still ride the tubers often, and think this is much better looking than that Super Puke. ; )



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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ourdee, the h2r already has wings, look closely....specifically to keep it from flying away.

Have you seen the the new ZH2? Its kinda like a striped down version of the other h2s, cheaper suspension, regular swingarm, but the same engine. About half the price of the regular h2 and nearly 25% of the price of the R. Be interested to see what tuners can get out of it.

Seriously thinking hard about one, though there are probably better options.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I was a rich man.....
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