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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/proud _of_yourselves_lefties_leftists_turn_deplorable_be auty_queen_into_trump_magnet.html
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kathy Zhu:


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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/07/30/alleged- antifa-member-wont-be-charged-for-attack-on-univer sity-of-washington-college-republicans/

Iirc Antifa is sponsored by Soros. Hail Hydra.

(Message edited by Aesquire on July 30, 2019)
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scenario: White supremacist attempts to chain the door on a meeting of the naacp. Is he charged with a crime?
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question 2: Is there a riot if he is not charged?
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/30/wear eantifa-trump-comments-triggers-outpouring-of-supp ort-for-extreme-left-antifa-in-germany/

By their enemies you shall know them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/07/30/swedis h-court-reduces-sentence-far-left-weapons-hoarding -extremist/

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/07/30/alleged- antifa-member-wont-be-charged-for-attack-on-univer sity-of-washington-college-republicans/
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/what_ happens_when_everything_is_about_identity.html

The Democrats crank it to full racist.

It's not about the content of their character, it's about the color of their skin.

Martin Luther King would not be surprised. Remember, he was murdered by a proud Democrat.

Bobby Kennedy AND Malcom X were murdered by Islamists.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy was murdered by a man who, like Bernie Sanders, went to Moscow, to suck up to his Socialist heroes.

Never Forget.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it racist if you rant about rich Krauts who use their money to influence US politics?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rich Krauts? I suppose it would be some rude word I can't recall, but not racist. Rich German would be less rude, not using an offensive WW2 propaganda word.

Who's the rich German?

Kraut, Nip, and Eyetie ( Brit slang ) gook, hun, (WW1) etc. Are all insulting propaganda and terms meant to remove the humanity from the enemy. I read them a lot in period literature, mostly in British war stories and action reports from soldiers & airmen. In fiction and older movies these words are used to give a sense of time. Not as description, but in dialog, usually.

Nip & gook OTOH are both racist and dehumanizing. And I suppose others might be, if you were yourself convinced that, say, the French are a different race than Welsh. That usage is very obsolete. Victorian? Elizibethan?

Does anyone recall what that type of insulting language is called? I'm drawing a blank.

But Kraut isn't racist. Racist words & comments are ones that belittle or demean based on race. ( if you are speaking English ) or anything you say when you don't agree with a modern Leftist, or are an enemy of them. ( if you are speaking Newspeak )

An example of a racist comment not using any racist specific words would be... "Black people can't be expected to be able to get a photo ID" this is a very racist comment with the blatant implication of inferiority based on race/skin color.

Note well that I do not use, condone, or agree with any racist word or comment above. They are only examples of inappropriate language.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nets Ignore NYC Man Beaten for Wearing ‘Make America Great Again’ Hat
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F$!@ NYC. I dream of a 'Fail Safe' scenario in which the entire city is destroyed. MFing pieces of crap. The time is gonna come, there will be hell to pay for crimes committed.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please warn my daughter in Queens ahead of time.

(Message edited by ducbsa on August 02, 2019)
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2019 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here we go.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.infowars.com/ohio-shooter-was-a-radica l-leftist-who-supported-elizabeth-warren/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/05/clas smates-connor-betts-kept-a-hit-list-and-a-rape-lis t/

Juvenile investigations are not to linger in your record to poison your life as an adult. The system understands you are not completely responsible when you are a child. This really helps people that made juvenile misjudgments. But can offer a get out of jail free card to the mentally ill, or willfully evil.

I'm tempted to so label Warren supporters. Or the management at CNN or The Washington Times.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the OH shooter, Betts:

“There was an incident in high school with this shooter that should have prevented him from ever getting his hands on a weapon. This was a tragedy that was 100% avoidable,”

So...once AGAIN...the failure wasn't in the "gun", but was AGAIN the fault of poor recordkeeping, poor prosecution, and a legal system.

He passed all background checks. Which means they RAN all background checks.

He shouldn't have passed.

It's not "gun control", it's our criminal justice system. THAT needs work, not me owning MY gun. When I do something that puts me in the criminal justice system, THEN you can talk to me about mine. But for now, when I've done nothing wrong?

Get the hell away from me, and mine.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The problem is, he didn't do anything that would prevent himself from passing a background check. He wasn't a convicted felon. He was never diagnosed as being mentally unfit. It's a problem of a one size fits all, go/no-go system. Do you lean towards ensuring that you have minimal impact on peoples 2A rights, or keeping guns out of the hands of a very few nuts, while trampling the rights of the masses. Typically we lean heavily toward protecting the rights of the innocent.

The sad thing is that even if he were denied a gun, if he is bent on killing people, there are still countless ways to accomplish that. Look at the devastation caused by a couple of pressure cookers at the Boston marathon a while back. Expecting our lawmakers to actually produce legislation that protects both 2A rights as well as potential victims of the insane simply is beyond reasonable expectations.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He didn't "do" anything...but there was ample evidence that he was a "bad actor" what with "kill lists" and "rape lists" in high school, as well as the nasty social media presence.

At what point does something like that become "criminal-enough" to become a stop-purchase for a firearm? That's the gray area. Maybe increased attention to background checks at that point? More probing questions? Possibly a mild mental evaluation? How would the ATF even get access to those records? Or...do "sealed" childhood records need to be made available wholesale, to the ATF, for this very reason?

Any of those could encroach on "discriminatory practice" given the right legal team...but the person is on the up-and-up and has nothing to hide and there's nothing to worry about...

And yes, I know. "Shall not be infringed". I own. I carry. I get it. But if it comes down to fixing the laws we have now...or confiscation? I'm (as someone with nothing to hide) fine answering a few more questions at renewal time, if it means keeping 2A alive for everyone.

We just need to figure out at what point does that blip on the radar, turn into "hey, we need to take action here". SOMETHING is breaking down in the system. We need to find it, and fix it, before we ALL have to pay for it.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but the person is on the up-and-up and has nothing to hide and there's nothing to worry about...

That logic gets applied to all sorts of intrusions. Hey, you don't mind if the FBI tears apart your house, do you. You've got nothing to hide, RIIIIIGHT? Oh, you do mind? Well, that suspicious enough to get a warrant!

I hate to say it, but this subject has been hashed over for decades, and we have no workable solutions from our lawmakers.

Should we flag little Johnny for no fire arms because he got into a fight with Timmy during recess in 2nd grade? He's showing clear tendencies towards violence... Slippery slopes.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fight with Timmy during recess is one thing.

High-school lists of "rape girls" that get the police called in...that's not a schoolyard fistfight. That's premeditation of violence and sexual assault. Big difference.

Now...if the second-grade fistfight for Timmy is followed by multiple other fights, and/or being ejected from multiple games because of "unsportsmanlike conduct", or events due to "unruly conduct"...THAT is a tendency, and hopefully something that a non-adult minor's record will contain, and have an eye kept on. But a single punch in second grade because somebody sat next to the girl he thought was cute? Nah.

Slippery slope, yes. "Same thing", no.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get it's not the same thing. Here's the problem though. Blackballing everyone who was found to have a "____" list in HS isn't going to solve the problem. You're already on that slippery slope though, so the next step becomes easier. At some point you wind up wondering how we got to where a 2nd grade fight means you can't have a gun. Or by that time, all guns would likely be banned.

No, they aren't the same thing, but they are both points on the same curve toward destroying 2A rights for everyone. That is the end point that many strive for already, so to them, that 2nd grade fight is a fine piece of information to use.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not saying to use the 2nd grade fight, or the high school lists, as cause in and of themselves.

I'm saying, make "juvenile record" items such as those, accessible to ATF and to gun sellers when they perform background checks on buyers. That way, the individual can be evaluated - properly - as an adult, before they purchase.

This hedges our bets against "preventative prosecution" (totalitarianism)...but if (key word there) used properly, it might stem the tide of folks buying weapons - and most of these morons have recent purchases with which they committed their crimes - when they shouldn't be cleared to buy. But if used properly, it could render useless any "red flag" laws, because people would be thoroughly checked out before purchasing, as an adult, with full access to all records. People who are allowed to purchase, are REALLY clear to purchase - not "we just didn't have access to that part of their history" cleared.

Or...we go to 50 state Constitutional Carry and put some goddamned MANNERS back in society. All these cowards seem to go after soft targets...if we get rid of the "soft" part and they know someone is going to fight back, maybe they'll think twice about their stupid role-play game fantasies, and go back to mommy's basement where they belong.

I can dream.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, you are getting into the territory where you have to prove your innocence. It's basically, you've done "A" in your past, and we think you are likely to do "B" in your future, so we are now going to deprive you of liberty "C" for the good of society. There is good reason our legal system doesn't work this way. You can plug many things into A, B and C, and it has been done repeatedly throughout history. Our founders recognized this to be tyranny. Government can offer you freedom. Government can offer you safety. Government cannot offer you freedom and safety.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see that side of things, absolutely.

So...door #2 - 50 state legal carry.

I think it was a Bill Maher video where he proclaimed "we can't just have a return to the Old West"...to which I reply "why not?".

This generation may not have squat for respect (of others, or self-respect)...but it'll damn sure get bred back in pretty fast!
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see that side of things, absolutely.

So...door #2 - 50 state legal carry.

I think it was a Bill Maher video where he proclaimed "we can't just have a return to the Old West"...to which I reply "why not?".

This generation may not have squat for respect (of others, or self-respect)...but it'll damn sure get bred back in pretty fast!


I agree with all of that. People think the "wild west" was constant gun violence with everyone having a gun on the hip. Far from it. They had fewer gun deaths, per capita, than our modern cities.

I'm not sure what the cause of these mass shootings might be. I'm assuming it's more than we are hearing about it more than in the past. It seems pretty clear though, that there hasn't been a big change in gun laws being loosened up as the cause. Based on that, new, more restrictive gun laws are unlikely to be a solution.

I do wonder one other thing. We all know about the fact that our nation had 2 mass shootings in a single weekend. No doubt, we can all agree that this is horrible. I just wonder though..., what happened in Chicago that same weekend? I don't have the answer, but I'm pretty sure it's just as devastating. But in Chicago, it's just called the weekend.
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Bandm
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chicago had 2 mass shootings Sunday along with 40 others shot over the weekend. This brings the total to 24 mass shootings in Chicago so far this year.

https://heyjackass.com/
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a note, the "official" definition of "mass shooting" is a single event that kills four or more persons.

And yes, unfortunately Chicago...that's just "weekend". Hannity did a big piece on it last night, going so far as to scroll a movie-credit-style list of victims' names to illustrate how many folks were dying in Chicago on a near-daily basis.

Cause?

Society today. There is ZERO self respect, and even less respect for others. Entitlement, no sense of justice, no sense that when you do something wrong there will be consequences...hell, the Dems ENCOURAGE misbehavior, and tell us that due to identity politics, the individual can NEVER be prosecuted because that means you're biased against their entire identity group (race, gender, socio-economic class...). So, these asshats take advantage of the system that is designed - more and more, I believe this - it is designed to cause chaos and sow discontent.

And we don't hear about Chicago because it doesn't push their agenda. This is me speaking as a Dem/Hydra agent now - it is NOT my personal thought but only an illustration: "meh, it's just more blacks dying in the city. And it's a city we control, so we don't want to publicize that. Let's point the spotlight at some dead immigrants, we can use THAT to further our 'the President is a racist' agenda! Let's let the slaves keep killing themselves so we don't have to worry about them, and make sure the press spouts off about racist killers who love the President so we can push our gun confiscation agenda and disarm the people".

Back in the "old west", people had respect - for themselves and others. They had a sense of pride. They had a sense of WORK - "idle hands do the devil's work" ring a bell? Lots of folks weren't "book smart" back then, but common sense was still...common. And today? It absolutely is NOT common.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/08/h ow_to_host_antisemites_visiting_israel.html

Advice for our Congressional hate mongers.
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