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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These girls are super talented. Been subscribed for a while.

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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

House Foreign Affairs Committe Chairman Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) described the drone shoot-down as "another belligerent act" by Iran, but urged the White House to run "any response" to the attack past lawmakers for approval.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/20/iran-sho ots-down-american-drone-1372605

Why do I interpret that as "Please let us leak any American military plans to Iran to make Trump look bad, and $%&# the American soldiers that will kill."

which makes me wonder how much of the cash Obama gave the Mullahs was earmarked for illegal campaign contributions to their greatest allies? ( the Democrat Party )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...when does the military EVER run actions past lawmakers??? Jesus...we'd NEVER get anything done!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/17/iran-deal-ech o-chambers-lies-prove-trump-right-renegotiate-now/

Obama did a gun running operation to Mexican drug gangs to steal your rights and cover his lies. Did a gun running operation to AQ to create ISIS, and cover his lies. And a money running operation to Iran.... To cover his lies & launder the money?

The most dangerous job in the world is investigating the money flows in the Obama Campaign, which is still in operation, and still financed in large part with foreign money laundered through the Islamic world.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting comments from P45 this afternoon:


quote:

...I think, probably, Iran made a mistake. I would imagine it was a general or somebody that made a mistake in shooting that drone down.

And, fortunately, that drone was unarmed. It was not — there was no man in it, and there was no — it was just — it was over international waters; clearly over international waters. But we didn’t have a man or woman in the drone. We had nobody in the drone. It would have made a big difference, let me tell you. It would have made a big, big difference.

But I have a feeling — I may be wrong and I may right, but I’m right a lot. I have a feeling that it was a mistake made by somebody that shouldn’t have been doing what they did. I think they made a mistake. And I’m not just talking the country made a mistake. I think that somebody under the command of that country made a big mistake.

...I find it hard to believe it was intentional, if you want to know the truth. I think that it could have been somebody who was loose and stupid that did it. But we’ll be able to report back, and you’ll understand exactly what happened. But it was a very foolish move, that I can tell you.



Hmmmmm...
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are y'all paying attention to the USA/China/North Korea dynamic in recent days? Good stuff.


quote:

The world hopes North Korea and the United States can talk to each other and for those talks to be successful, Chinese President Xi Jinping told North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Thursday, praising Pyongyang’s efforts toward denuclearization.

...Xi told Kim he had come to consolidate a traditional friendship and to promote the political process for a resolution of the Korean peninsula issue, it added.

Xi “positively appraised” North Korea’s efforts to safeguard peace and stability on the peninsula and promote denuclearization, state television said.

“The situation on the Korean peninsula concerns regional peace and stability,” the report paraphrased Xi as telling Kim at their formal meeting.

“The international community hopes that North Korea and the United States can talk and for the talks to get results.”



^: https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1TL0 3D
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Chairman Xi Jinping arrives in North Korea to support the “correct thinking” within his proxy province and hostage Kim Jong-Un. Magnanimous Panda, and defender of all enlightened Asian progress, exhibited great smiles as nervous Kim worries over the dust on the military shoestrings.

Magnanimous Panda Chairman Xi appreciates the welcome, and will now show the world the brilliant and purposeful peace that can only be achieved by following the Chinese model of great guidance and enlightenment.

Thank you Magnanimous Panda. The world can never be worthy of your consideration, guidance and great leadership. Peace for the Korean people will be achieved because Magnanimous Panda raises the collective responsibility of all human consciousness.

Thus, we enter a phase of great nuance and subtle signaling where we will need to carefully evaluate the scale of hostage release. Obviously western media -writ large- are oblivious to the multidimensional hostage dynamic; heck, most major western media don’t even acknowledge that China controls North Korea… So we have a front row seat to review the generally coded signals.

In the dynamic of the denuclearization of North Korea, the most likely scenario is Chairman Xi playing the role of magnanimous panda and *guiding* Chairman Kim Jong Un into the world of nations. Hence the op-ed outlined yesterday.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in will be positioned as the hero so that Xi doesn’t look like he lost Kim to Trump. However, what we don’t know is how much autonomy Chairman Xi will allow Chairman Kim. It’s the “guiding” part we need to watch closely.

Beijing isn’t going to let Kim go fully autonomous and independent; not when they share a border; and certainly not after generations of strategic influence and control over the DPRK as a proxy province and hedge against the West.

Unfortunately, South Korean President Moon Jae-in will be useless as a counter wedge against the cunning of Xi Jinping in this very important aspect. Moon is essentially the Asian 0bama, and has about as much strategic intelligence, foresight and usefulness as a bag-of-rocks being used as a weather vane.

Chairman Xi now owns any actions taken by North Korea. Whether Xi releases his hostage, or the more likely scenario, he retains control but the nuclear threat is removed, matters not.

The open engagement by Xi now transfers all DPRK behavior openly to Beijing. North Korea is no more a nuclear threat than China. Technically, this has always been the reality; however, now things are public. China cannot hide or deny their involvement.

Chairman Kim may never be freed, but for U.S. interests the nuclear threat is gone.

Remember, generally speaking President trump held two connected objectives: (1) removing the threat posed by North Korea by severing the ability of Beijing to use the proxy province as a weapon; and (2) deconstructing the growing economic influence of China.

The first objective has been achieved. President Trump can now go into full economic war against China without the worry of Beijing using Pyongyang to launch rockets.

The G20 in Osaka should be lots of fun.



^: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/20/ma gnanimous-panda-arrives-to-support-correct-thinkin g-by-hostage-kim/
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just because:

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2019 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/19/we-hold-all-the -cards-in-the-showdown-with-iran/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watc h/iran-close-collapse-three-things-you-need-know-a bout-us-iran-showdown-63442

As a history buff, and a tech geek, I've long had figured out the big hammer attack that slams Iran and China at the same time.

Not the last action, but the turning point action, it would be a Tomahawk missile barrage on Iran's main oil tanker port infrastructure. We have a few older ICBM subs converted into cruise missile launchers under the SALT treaties with the Soviets. Less than one sub load, mixed cluster anti tank mine & HE, would cut off the main flow of oil & money to & from China.

But it's a big slam action, and I'd expect a lot of small, pinprick, actions possibly using Spec Ops forces to cut pipelines, prepare to strike military bases, and coordinate with domestic Iranian patriots.

You also have to remember Iran may be the biggest buyer of Silkworm anti ship missiles, which China sells like water at Burning Man. And while some are in hardened bunkers along the coast, most are truck mounted and moved constantly.

Clearing the area of tankers would be a logical move before a conventional war, but would telegraph our intention and disrupt the Global economy.

OTOH, clearing the shipping then Not attacking, would be a huge bluff/disinformation move. Costly, and certain to anger European Union powers, but Trump is certainly willing to give them the finger, and I bet he's already cleared it with Japan. In person.

On the Gripping Hand, pulling a "remove the shipping from danger" bluff, causing an desired response from Iran, then countering that response with decapitation strikes, might be the best shot at freeing Iran from despotic theocrats, & the planet from their ongoing terrorism.

It would require close cooperation with Israel, Saudi Arabia, Japan, & preferably a free Britain.

Gee. Isn't there a guy in the White House who's friendly with all those people?
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, June 21, 2019 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Image source: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/21/pr esident-trump-cancels-disproportionate-counter-att ack-on-iran/
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-23/acting-d hs-chief-sabotaged-ice-raids-leaking-plan-washingt on-post

Pause a moment in your love affair with all things Trumpian, and consider that the acting head of a Federal Agency just violated the law, big time.

There is the concept of whistle blower. You want to protect an individual who has knowledge of corruption or crimes, to reveal the truth to controlling authority.

Then there is leaking for political or treasonous reasons. The ( unknown? ) CIA minion ( Clinton appointee? ) that leaked that Bush the Younger asked for a plan to attack Iran while Iran was supplying weapons, troops, and a highway for AQ to kill U.S. troops & civilians in Iraq.

While Bush Hitler Haters declared it a super patriotic bold move by an unknown drone, it was, actually, a coup & Treason most foul. One individual took it upon himself to change U.S. Foreign Policy by "preventing a war"...by warning the enemy of a surprise attack, publicly, anonymously, cowardly.

Imagine a Japanese mid level minion giving the New York Times a leak about plans for Pearl Harbor.

In any country but here, and maybe Canada, that treason would result in not only the execution of the traitor, but their entire family, to prevent revenge killings and eliminate the treacherous infection.

A little less medieval and dramatic, what if the Head of the FBI leaked that his agents were about to raid the Mafia? That's obstruction of Justice, the real deal.

That's what we have here. A coup. A cop warning criminals. ( like certain Californian DAs ) One unelected man deciding to steal power from the Executive, to make a major foreign policy decision, on his own, violating the existing law, because???

The honorable way to do this power play is to announce your resignation, why, ( a policy you disagree with ) and take the flak with head high.

As a weasel leaking warning criminals of arrest, he instead should not be fired, but arrested, jailed, and tried in court.

This is the Deep State destruction of or Constitutional government.

If it was honest rebellion against tyranny, the defense you KNOW they will use, then where the hel were these scum during the 8 years of abuse, war without legality, and secret police spying during the Obama regime?

This fish stinks. We are in much greater danger than you think.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What he did is called, "treason".

I can't imagine the severity of the NDA's he must have signed IOT have that job.

But, D's never seem to be held accountable for their treason. R's are accused of treason and then investigated with no probable cause. The system is broken.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“Imagine a Japanese mid level minion giving the New York Times a leak about plans for Pearl Harbor”

Wouldn’t have made any difference. The Times would have buried it, like they buried the stuff Nazi Germany was doing.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least, I assume the DHS chief was a Democrat. There are also a fair number of R's who, in the name of "never-Trump" are willing to commit treason. "orange man bad".
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since there's no state of war against illegal immigrants, it's not Treason.

It is interfering with a police investigation, and arrests, which is basically what they falsely accused the Bad Orange Man of.

It's a felony.

The unknown CIA leaker OTOH, that was Treason. Lawyers would argue that no formal declaration of war was voted by Congress, but the last time that happened was early December, 1941. The Mullahs declared war on us decades ago, during the Carter regime.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It’s wikipedia, but probably good enough in this case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_ Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Iraq_Resolution_of_2 002

The constitution is not specific about how congress must declare war. They, in effect, did so here, according to the judiciary branch.

Similarly, congress authorized action against Iraq in 1991. They didn’t use the word ‘declare’, but, again, the constitution does not require such verbiage.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-01-13 -mn-374-story,amp.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2019 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, Iraq and Iran were authorized by Congress and cases involving them count as aiding an enemy.

Not so for the DHS acting head. That's civil law, even with the international parts. "Simple Felony".
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Blake
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2019 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's bad if true.

The fed bureaucracies are still infected by leftist slime.

I saw the guy testify to the House recently and thought he was great. Seemed hard-nosed, competent, and by the book.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/a_pos sible_trump_strategy_if_iran_closes_the_strait_of_ hormuz.html
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clearcut case of NMFP, now that we're energy-independant.

Not
My
F'n
Problem.

Let the rest of the world deal with their own issues, and quit being the Global Police. We have enough problems right here at home.

A good article...and I hope, some actual insight into our policy in the matter.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...Except one of the main charters of the US Navy is to keep ALL international waterways open...

“The mission of the Navy is to maintain, train and equip combat-ready Naval forces capable of winning wars, deterring aggression and maintaining freedom of the seas.”

Keeping the waterways open is the responsibility of all nations.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Key phrase - ALL nations.

Just like in NATO, it's time for some of the other folks to pitch in...do their fair share instead of counting on ol' Uncle Sam to do it for them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The notion that simply not responding to provocation is the best way kinda appeals to me.

http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/we-hold-all-the- cards-in-the-showdown-with-iran/

After all, we don't need Arab ( or Persian ) oil, although China & Japan etc still do. You know the Mullahs aren't going after Chinese tankers, they got a deal. ( never mind Chinese Concentration Camps for Muslims ) But Japan, Free Korea, and a lot of the planet are in the cross hairs of the Iranian regime.

So, will the Japanese Defence Force send a Destroyer to the Gulf to defend it's ships? A French Frigate? Who would object to a retaliatory strike? Not us. Screw the E.U.

Part of the Iranian arsenal are Soviet built missile boats. This late 20th century vessel is the new version of the Torpedo boats of the late 19th century, where a small, cheap, & expendable boat carries the means to sink the biggest Capital Ship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_boat

In fact "Destroyers" as a ship type were originally Torpedo Boat Destroyers, built to guard the Cruisers and Battleships from Torpedo boat attack. ( the first robot war weapons? )

Iran also has a sh%& load of cheap crappy speedboats to carry rifle & RPG armed military out to harass, attack, & hijack ships.

The missile boats are glass cannons. Easy to kill with any fighter or gun equipped ship. But with a powerful punch that can fight far above it's weight. The Soviet Strategy is that for a fraction of the cost of a Carrier, they could have a serious threat to Allied Sea Power, and with a smart Captain, can fire their missiles & run away. Before they get taken out. And after they shoot their load, are a lower priority to kill, since they aren't a threat until they run to Mama and reload.

Our Navy spends a lot of time figuring out how to deal with that threat, and the answer so far is...Destroyers. Unfortunately as missile defense platforms and bait.

The swarm boats, OTOH, show how the romance of high tech weapons has left our Navy vulnerable. Sinking one of thirty boats with a missile that costs more than a thousand boats is silly, and a fail at stopping the threat. Most anti ship weapons in the inventory are useless against a speed boat anyway, meant for bigger, farther, targets.

Ironically, what most ships need today are 40mm Bofors quad mount guns from WW2. Updated with IR & light amplification sights, and some with radar robotic aiming, but absolutely guns with men & women capable of making a judgment call on when to not shoot, and when to unleash Hellfire.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/06/the -news-from-newsom.php

Translation.

Screw the Law. Screw the Citizens. Illegal Democrat voters, the Governor has your back.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell: Agreed. one thing I am very happy about is Trump forcing other nations to step up and finally pay their share to NATO. They also need to pay with lives instead of counting on our soldiers dying for their sake.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only to be badmouthed for doing so.

That's the worst part - the ingratitude.
"You did all this for us...but we're still going to treat you like shit."

As for Newsom...the comments section made an excellent point. Sure, the Constitution may provide Due Process rights for anyone on American soil.

However.

If you have ALREADY been issued an exit order by the courts, to leave this country because you are breaking the law...you do NOT have the right to refuse law enforcement entry to your home. That exit order IS judicial authorization for law enforcement to enter, and execute the order.

"You can't come in without a warrant."

"um...the court told you to leave. That IS my warrant. Time to go."
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Akbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now, don't pick on Newsom. After all, he and the rest of the Dems/libs in Calif know what they are doing. The business/social climate there is so good that Mitsubishi North America just announced their move to Franklin, Tenn. To be followed by . . . . .
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newsom just like Biden is being given a pass by the left for their indiscretions.

Gropey Joe is being given a pass because the left feels he is their ticket to unseat Trump.

Newsom is a serial cheater who cheated on his wife with his best friends wife. But that's OK because he is a democrat. Incredible. He is slimier than a banana slug...
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://mosaicmagazine.com/observation/politics-cu rrent-affairs/2019/06/what-iran-is-really-up-to/

A bit long but a good analysis.

Going to be a fun weekend in Japan.
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