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Willmrx
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2019 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got my hands on a XR650l and been riding the crap out of it, for the last two weeks. The last three days I have started to get pain in my left elbow,(tennis elbow) symptoms. It has to be from using the clutch! Time to get a quickshifter for the XR I guess.
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2019 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take a look at the ergonomic differences between your most regular ride vs. the new Honda. Handlebar height and angles in particular.

Kinda jealous! I'd love a D/S around here in E. TN and W. NC.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

May be the angle of your bars. May need to adjust or replace with different bars.
Just using a muscle doesn't normally result in "tennis elbow". It's normally using a muscle at the wrong angle. You should be able to destroy your muscle through resistance exertion without any joint pain.
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Willmrx
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bottom line, I am old.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" You should be able to destroy your muscle through resistance exertion without any joint pain."

Hunnhhh?
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You should be able to destroy your muscle through resistance exertion without any joint pain."

Actually I think I kinda did that with my foot at work last night, twisted my arch somehow, can barely walk now, calling out of work tonite. Thought I had this GD plantar fasciitis under control, now I guess I gotta take that giant injection sometime this week.
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Willmrx
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Things start to fail at some point! And I am at (THAT) point,eyesight,hearing,and I have forgotten the rest, oh yeah, my memory.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

squids said "Actually I think I kinda did that with my foot at work last night, twisted my arch somehow, can barely walk now, calling out of work tonite. Thought I had this GD plantar fasciitis under control, now I guess I gotta take that giant injection sometime this week."

You need orthotics my friend!
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got them, to the tune of $350- the Hanger clinic did a foot scan and had them custom made for my feet. Thinking back on how I was moving last nite, to move faster and more efficiently through the restaurant (kitchen especially), I sometimes use moves like one might in "contra" dancing, which I was into years ago. Think I did a pirouette on a certain corner, blew things to hell. Hate to say it, but I believe the cortizone shot is next.

Ow.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should be able to destroy your muscle through resistance exertion without any joint pain

Real-world example. You should be able to go the the gym, lay down on the bench press, knock out 5-10 sets, and your chest muscles should be destroyed. But your shoulder joints should be fine. If flat bench kills your joints, then you need to switch to dumb-bell presses. This allows you to still destroy your chest muscles, but allows your rotator cuffs some interior rotation as your arms come down. Now you can destroy your chest muscles without hurting your shoulders.

If foreplay with the clutch lever hurts your forearm, it's fine, your body will get stronger. If it hurts your elbow, you need to switch to dumbells. I mean different handlebars. While your muscles can get stronger through resistance training, your joints cannot, but there are usually kinematic options to overcome joint pain.

(Message edited by torquehd on June 09, 2019)
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hate to say it, but I believe the cortizone shot is next

Been there, done that. It helped. It's a band-aid and not a permanent fix.

For me, it was arthritis in the shoulder. Cortizone helped me regain mobility but what helped the most was re-building the muscle mass surrounding the joint. Joint pain had caused me to limit my range of motion so much that all of my muscles surrounding the shoulder ball and socket had atrophied enough to make the problem even worse.

Re-building the muscles that held the ball-and-socket together was the ultimate solution to my arthritic pain. If I get out of the gym for a couple of months, my shoulder pain returns.

It's a classical example of preventative maintenance. I had to modify the way that I did some exercises. I had to switch from a barbell to dumbells or a T-rex (which is like olympic rings). The way that joints move while under load can make all the difference in the world. Shoulders NEED interior rotation, and they can't get that with a barbell.

A barbell is a lot like a handlebar. Maybe your shoulders, or elbows, need to be rotated in a little more when applying that much load-volume.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I apologize for the triple post here.

My Cortisone shot was actually really cool.

The doctor had a group of students sitting in on the operation.

As I recall, the doctor laid me down on the bed, raised my left arm to the scarecrow position, and put a weight on my hand to keep the joint open. Then he put an ultrasound lead on my shoulder, and then stuck the needle in. As the needle went in, you could see it on the ultrasound. He talked the students through all the landmarks you had to navigate through, pushing the needle further into the soft tissue, between the bones. It was a lot like that game "operation" where you have to keep the buzzer from going off as you remove the scalpel or whatever it is. The cortisone goes deep in the joint, in the soft tissue, so it's like navigating through a minefield or something.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, June 10, 2019 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Real-world example. You should be able to go the the gym, lay down on the bench press, knock out 5-10 sets, and your chest muscles should be destroyed."

Sorry, I'm old-school. You mean depleted, not destroyed...?

Your muscles should still be there, waiting for their next carbo-load with a bit of a Gatorade analogue. Gotta reload the guns, right? ; )

Sorry, semantics.
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Willmrx
Posted on Monday, June 10, 2019 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Kmbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iím off the bikes for a bit. I keep my parts stash on a loft in my garage, I have 10í side walls. We built this garage six years ago, Iíve used the same ladder hundreds of times to access the loft. Three weeks ago, on a beautiful Saturday afternoon I was about to step off the ladder when it slid out from under me. I followed it down to the concrete floor, landing left elbow first.
Three days later today had a plate and six screws installed. No cast, started PT today. I can now go from zero weight to five pounds. Therapist says no bike for three months, not real happy, but the downside sure could have been worse.
I think Iím going to get a good understanding of clutch elbow.
Be careful out there!
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check with the Therapist about weather soaking in hot water and movement will help you. It helped me get range of motion back pretty quickly.
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Kmbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No soaking for another week or so until all the stiches are healed up. Iím hoping that heat will help!
A bit sore tonight after doing my exercises.
Thanks for the advice!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a machine the VA gave me - liquid paraffin bath.
Just big enough to get my hand a and wrist in.

Kills the arthritis pain in both thumbs.

Z
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