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     Ratbuell |
They'll all be electric, just like all the other mass-transit vehicles (because there will be no personal conveyances allowed). All supported by an electric grid system that will somehow generate electricity from unicorn farts and rainbow dust. Because, as we all know. the electricity that comes out of our outlets simply "appears", there's nothing involved in "making" it...no oil, no CNG, no nuclear...it just...IS. Because they wish it so. | ||
| Hootowl |
We'll buy electricity from Canada and Mexico. They will build enormous coal, oil, and gas fired plants to supply us with the energy we need. They will emit CO2, not the US, especially Mexico, with its looser regulations, not to mention corruption. The irony of this will be lost on the left. | ||
| Hootowl |
Don't discount unicorn farts. Tremendous energy density. | ||
| Torquehd |
Free Energy!!!! We Found it!!!!  | ||
| Torquehd |
Germany figured it out too! https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/mar/23/wo rlds-largest-artificial-sun-german-scientists-acti vate-synlight "Synlight currently uses a vast amount of energy – four hours of operation consumes as much electricity as a four-person household in a year" Wow, for the cost of 4 years worth of electricity you can generate 4 hours worth of power! Now THAT's socialism at it's finest! | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/02/10/s tudy-claims-european-slaughter-indigenous-american s-caused-little-ice-age/ This ties in with the meme that Attila ( Hun, one of ) killed so many people it stopped Global Warming. However, the Huns themselves seem to have been fleeing Climate Change. https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/10/30/165687 16/six-ways-climate-change-disease-toppled-roman-e mpire https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-n ews/nature/winter-arrived-snowing-in-rome-climatic -change-events-result-historically-in-an-increase- in-violence/ And when they look, Climate Change affected history all over the place. Duh. And not just since the dark age cooling suck. https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-finally-kn ow-what-stopped-mongol-hordes-from-conquering-euro pe | ||
| Ducbsa |
Ah, a closet Vox reader!  | ||
| Aesquire |
Out of the closet everything reader. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.city-journal.org/atomic-power The move to natural gas to make electricity, has hurt home owners and everyone else by raising the cost of heating homes. And industry. The probability that a terrorist attack will happen, on natural gas lines, thousands of unguarded miles of them is approaching certainty. Every winter storm in the North East is another prime chance to murder thousands, even millions, by cutting off the power. A buddy who recently went through a class on high voltage power, he does machine installation & repair, and hooking up the bigger installations means a 220 volt plug isn't even close to the connection, told me he'd learned to black out a county with a length of wire. I'm sure he meant the part on what not to do!  Speculation on how to commit terrorism, in order to know what to defend, tells me that a 4x4 heavy duty pickup and chain is all a clever person needs to do incredible damage to..... Stuff. Hard to maintain a surveillance system capable of detecting such attacks, and nigh impossible to prevent. Whoever Gas & Electric would need multiple helicopters with heavily armed mercenaries on stand by to stop such attacks if they could detect them in real time. Thankfully, Malls are a flashier target for the small number of people seeking glory in suicide massacre. And when that is a thing to be thankful for, it illustrates the real danger to a highly connected modern civilization. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I think another factor on mall-and-church-and-nightclub shootings is, power outages and gas outages would cause problems for the coward doing the deed in the first place... Remember, these asshats go for targets where people can't fight back. They're too soft themselves, to risk an inconvenience like not being able to turn on the game box or nuke their dinner... | ||
| Aesquire |
It's not that simple. We are dealing with people willing to die for a cause. Calling them soft is missing a lot. And while you or I may also be willing to die for a cause, my moral indoctrination, ( yours may be different ) doesn't include killing people that don't believe exactly like I do, because they don't believe exactly like I do. ( Like Islam, or Leftism ) My moral code says that is evil and probably insane. On a practical logical level, the cause of whatever Purity of Faith is one where eventually everyone else has to die since humans will interpret the same text different ways. The Koran is a book of hate and manipulation, and the probability of "error" in interpretation is nigh infinite. So are the Holy texts of the Leftists. Count the murdered by the Millions if you doubt that. The reason there hasn't been a large scale infrastructure attack, is probably because most Muslim and Leftist fanatics aren't all that bright. They go for the emotional targets. Schools, churches, etc. Easy ones, because, yes, by my old warrior code, they are cowards. Evil, deadly cowards, can still ruin your day by murdering helpless children. Note that M. Atta, is considered a genius by AQ leaders & the Islamist World for stealing an idea from a Tom Clancy novel and making it work in the real world with huge resources and a vast supply of agents planted in multiple countries by others. That was a "brilliant" infrastructure and emotional impact attack. ( 9/11/2001 Twin Towers/Pentagon/Capitol attack ) They're too soft themselves, to risk an inconvenience like not being able to turn on the game box or nuke their dinner... Huh? they are going to be dead. They don't care if they can't get a hot shower the day after they commit glorious suicide. They're just not led by the "right" people. This is evil preacher stuff, not Lex Luthor stuff. (Message edited by aesquire on February 11, 2019) | ||
| Ratbuell |
We're arguing two different points here. I'm talking the lone-wolf cowards like that knucklehead Antifa guy who got shot trying to kidnap his own daughter, and the kids who shoot up their schools, and the solo acts who shoot churches and clubs. I agree on the terrorist issue - they're not the brightest (religious - or any - fanaticism gives you extreme tunnel vision), or they want "more glory". I suspect they want immediate casualties, not residual as from power/heat outages in winter. Smart folks will turn their water pipes off, drain them, and find a friend with a generator or sleep at the office. They don't want to take that chance. | ||
| Aesquire |
I agree, although the press is now calling "lone wolf" people who were indoctrinated and aided by AQ/ISIS/Iran/..... And are actually part of an international War. Call it jihad, ( might help to understand ) call it infiltration, the dead don't care for labels. The domestic violence/shootings in the U.S. were, until the Obama regime, either Jihad, ( D.C. Sniper, gay night club massacre...) Or school shootings where kids are picked on by neo-Nazi SJW scum like Hogg ( you KNOW he was in the group that tormented the mentally ill kid ) until they snap. Any other kind was rare enough you instantly remember them by name. Oklahoma City, Texas tower, Las Vegas? 1. Now we have a growing number of Democrat-Socialist-Watermelon violent attacks ranging from shootings to "protest assaults" to Mob Flash Crowd home "demonstration". Expect more shootings, lots more riot-carjacking-assaults, and the Flash Mob tactic to have casualties this year. We've been lucky. Mall attacks in the U.S. while a likely Jihad target, also have 'Muricans with pistols, as have already stopped at least one Mall massacre. ( not a story the Media wants to repeat... ) So I am concerned but not as much about "public place" as "big event" attacks because they are softer targets. But.... I am going full Cassandra here, the Flash Mob assaults on politician's homes and other targets of the left, are, I predict, going to go deadly, horrifically. Some person. Congressman, pizza shop owner, grocery register person, is going to inflame the Left. A Twit storm follows and turns into a Flash Crowd call to "go get some camera time" while feeling good about yourself for being woke. 20 people follow social media into a fun time screaming curses at a frightened women & her children, numbers are growing, first News Van is on scene, and a firebombing happens. Or shooting. Or torn to pieces, scary enough. That capacity to call Mobs out of the ether is scary as heck. So easy to exploit. Footnote 1. claimed by ISIS, no credible investigation results. Conspiracy theory nuts are going crazy... And they should. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Agreed. Look at tucker carlsons house last year. I doubt thats the last time we'll see something like that. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Not to mention "SWAT-ing". That's just straight up crazy. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/02/is- global-warming-theory-scientific.php When the 13 year old home alone as the "protesters" throw rocks through Windows because of a tweet, ( & that congresswoman's urging to drive the Jews to the Sea ) hauls out grandpa's Marlin and starts punching .45 caliber soft points through 3 SJWs in a row, you can expect legislation to ban assault buffalo guns. And that's the happy ending. | ||
| Ratbuell |
It'll happen soon enough, I'm sure. Not necessarily the "trapped family member" under assault at home, but sometime soon, somewhere, some SJW is going to push enough wrong buttons on a legal, law-abiding firearm owner/carrier...and that'll be the end of that SJW. Like that meatball who tried to kidnap his own daughter from school after he lost visitation, and got ended by the police when he drew down on them. We've been patient. We've been tolerant. We've been - like our name implies - conservative. But soon...enough will be enough, and that will be a bad day. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Sifo |
Why do you insult cows that way? | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/02/the -trouble-with-solar.php A few years back some company was promising it had found the magic solution to drying out wet organic waste, to make biodiesel. They were going to use chicken processing waste. Haven't heard anything lately. Lots of organic waste, mostly food related, stalks, chaff, gizzards, would be fine feed stock for biofuel or burn in boilers, directly. Except they are wet. The energy costs to dry them out so you can burn them are more than you get out. How about solar, free energy to dry it? OK, take over the black asphalt parking lot of the abandoned mega mall. A small fleet of spreaders, loaders, and $15 hour homeless people with rakes, and good weather, and you've dropped the cost of the waste from free to more expensive than Venezuela crude. And just as available. Not to mention the smell as silage and chicken guts marinate in the sun. | ||
| Hootowl |
You may not have heard from them, but they are still out there. Butterball uses such a plant for their waste stream. The output of the plant runs the plant. The issue isn’t whether it works, carbon chain manipulation is a thing, the issue is whether there is a large enough waste stream to meet our energy needs. Answer: There isn’t. | ||
| Hootowl |
“energy costs to dry them out so you can burn them” This springs from a misunderstanding of what thermal depolymerization is. Nothing is being burned. Carbon chains are being reformed. | ||
| Aesquire |
It's a steam process with the chicken waste, right? That was the trick to avoid drying costs. Iirc. Good to know it's working. Not a surprise it's not The Holy Cure for fuel. You need to dry out stuff like corn stalks or manure to burn it. Some stuff, like pig manure can be fermented to get methane, and pig farmers run generators off it. See also Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Co-generation, in multiple forms, using previously wasted heat or material, is a big part of increase efficiency and saving the planet, and money. It's probably a better place to "spend" taxes through credits than most "green" projects. Insulation and efficient HVAC credits are better for home owners. I'm all for more efficient stuff! I'm vehemently opposed to dictatorship. Conservation vs. Watermelon. | ||
| Hootowl |
The process is also ideally suited to disposing of plastics that cannot otherwise be recycled. | ||
| Sifo |
Big bang never happened? I'm not sure I really care, other than mild curiosity. I'm pretty sure that most scientists (97%?) buy into the theory though. If this really proves the big bang theory to be false, it is a huge change in our understanding of... Well, a lot. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Regarding poultry waste: https://www.twincities.com/2017/04/27/an-mn-power- plant-that-burns-turkey-poop-was-once-a-wonder-now -it-may-close/ My company bid on this in ‘99 or so (unsuccessfully) and we visited a couple plants in the UK that were working. | ||
| Gregtonn |
You need to dry out stuff like corn stalks or manure to burn it. Corn stalks (and cobs) burn quite well after the corn has been harvested, no drying required. Having been raised on a corn farm I know this for a fact. Corn can also be used as fuel in properly design pellet stoves. G | ||
| Sifo |
It's not as simple as wet or dry, or it will burn or it will not burn. The more moisture content in the fuel, the more BTUs will be used to evaporate the moisture. That means less net energy. When heating with wood for example, while somewhat green wood will burn just fine, a cord of well seasoned wood will last much longer than a cord of green wood. How that work out in the calculations of getting energy from waste, I really don't know. It's not as simple as saying there are X number of BTUs available in a given product. | ||
| Ratbuell |
You also, with moisture, have the residual/residue problems with flues and chimneys. Dry fuels burn...well...drier, and leave less creosote behind in the equipment. Less creosote and coatings means less time and expense in equipment maintenance, and less probability of equipment damage (i.e. chimney fire) when maintenance isn't done. Which gets REALLY expensive. | ||
| Aesquire |
Corn stalks require less drying. That's after days drying in the ground. You don't burn freshly cut dent corn kernels either. It's not as wet as sweet corn, but it's not instant. I'm from Nebraska, it's the State religion.  England, before steam powered pumps allowed deeper coal mining, turned it's forests to charcoal. ( except royal & some Estate woods ) That's more than just drying, to turn wood into useful fuel for the forge. And with the exception of some ships & power plants, we don't use crude oil directly. Venezuelan Heavy for example, isn't even good for that, without processing. In Boy Scouts we even made corn stalks into charcoal, to use in a forge. Small batch, about a ton. That is, we started with a ton of stalks. Made it obvious why most of British forests were replanted in the 20th century. The solar panels down the road have zero output these last few days. Covered in snow, then freezing rain, then more snow. We are going to have to burn socialists to keep warm, and they won't burn efficiently alive either. It might be satisfying and necessary, but it's not efficient without processing. |
