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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I fear I'd not be able to tolerate such insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSBTTmahTVE



Maybe a chicken carcass in her air vent to start?

"No sir, I've no idea how the roaches, rats, and snakes got into her room."
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's pretty crazy. We had a pretty nutty thing on our block a few years back. Nice 4 bedroom house, and the homeowner wound up out of state for an indefinite period. They let their adult kids, complete with their kids live in the house rent free for a couple of years. They finally decided that they were going to sell the house and notified their kids. Once it was on the market, the kids trashed the place. Broken drywall, cut carpet, etc. This wasn't acting out against the parents in anger. This was to make the place unsellable so they wouldn't have to move out. Of course, eviction process, then renovate, then sell. I can only assume this has created some friction between the parents and kids.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That story is from 2014 and she is no longer living in the house.

To be fair (and this is NOT just California), there are laws in place concerning how you treat tenants and just forcing them to move out without proper legal proceedings IS against the law. The couple is claiming victim-hood here, but they were completely negligent in how they treated a tenant. They set themselves up for this mess.

Granted the lady is bat shit crazy and highly litigious. They should have done a better background investigation.

This story even made it on Dr. Phil. https://www.drphil.com/shows/2258/

But again, this is from 2014...
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H0gwash
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When this happens it is less expensive to try and move them out with an offer of a couple month's rent at another place to try and avoid an eviction which is going to cost you at least several month's rent anyway.
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Mtjm2
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We allowed my daughter and her kids to move in
With us about 4 months ago
She has a drug addiction and we felt it would be best for the kids
Well after 3 months she got back into the shit and got in trouble.
We were told we would have to file eviction papers to get her out.
Christmas Day while my wife and I were at my moms
She decided to leave.
We didn’t tell her she had to leave she just did

And we would have had to file even when she contributed nothing to the home

That’s in Pennsylvania
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I learned a long time ago to be very careful who you let in.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever you do, don't let her panties hit the floor or you're married.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a longtime landlord of a nice 3/2/2 in the DFW metro area, these types of stories garner my interest. I've always been very careful in vetting tenants. Like Airbozo notes, that is key. Not sure why he's impressed that the story is 4-5 years old.

Arguing legality in a system rigged for squatters? That's the outrage, that such behavior is actually legally protected. The outrage is strictly moral. The law needs adjusted. The woman is a litigious parasite with a long history of similar behavior. She was reportedly quoted as saying that she is just waiting for her "pension"? Care to guess where that is coming from? Fired from the CA DMV or other state govt agency but retaining full pension would not surprise me. I digress.

Treat others as you would be treated. What a poor lost woman.

My worst experience so far as a landlord was just a tenant leaving the place a mess, but he was apologetic and even volunteered to chip in extra on top of his forfeited security deposit.

We used to live in the house and I'm friends with many of the neighbors. It's an awesome neighborhood.

Get a load of this case, actually multiple cases of "tenant" squatting, in Texas no less!

https://youtu.be/NDXnBcCvkOc



How is misrepresenting information on a rental application not criminal? Try that on a govt form and see what happens. Seems to me that the police are not doing their job. If they wanted, they could surely find criminal behavior to go after. But that requires effort.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mtjm2,

Gosh Mark, that's a heartbreaking ordeal. I sure hope your daughter is able to get help and make a recovery. You're a courageous man in taking the truly loving action necessary to best help lead her to that point.

Hang in there brother.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The seller of my first house had rented space in the detached garage to a guy for storing stuff. I accepted it because the rent for ~ 12 months was OK. The term ran out and he didn't leave, but paid rent for a while. When he quit paying, but no move, I looked into it. In Illinois, he could stay there until I filed and got the sheriff to evict him. Eventually he did leave. Tenants do have a lot of rights.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tenants deserve rights to protect them against injustice. Thirty days eviction notice seems reasonable.

Much like some states' no-fault divorce laws now though, the knee jerk legislation to address one injustice has created another injustice on the other side.
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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,

I mentioned the age of the story mainly to show it had already been resolved. And to point folks to the Dr. Phil show so everyone could see how crazy she is.

I've been trying to find the follow up stories concerning the litigious nature of that creepy old lady. She has been admonished by the courts several times over frivolous lawsuits.

Vetting tenants is the first line of defense against crazy, but not 100% effective. I've been on both ends of the renter situation and can see why certain laws exist. In California (and many other states) the laws side with the tenant and not the owner.

San Jose recently passed a law that will force all landlords to accept section 8 vouchers and that is going to cause several people to pull their rentals off the market and sell them. I've had many run in's with section 8 renters and none of them were good. 90% were people who should be in institutions (psychiatric or incarceration).

It took the lady behind us almost 2 years to evict a guy that just showed up and moved into her 2nd house. He was trespassing and squatting in that house and it still took her that long. The whole neighborhood hated the guy and made sure the cops were called on anything he did. He took shots at my animals and then emptied a clip into my house after he was finally removed from the property.

One particularly funny incident happened late one night. He had a habit of gunning his truck full speed out of that property kicking up rocks and dust, so one of the neighbors hooked a cable to his axle and the other end to a large redwood. It didn't quite yank the axle off the truck, before the cable snapped and destroyed his home made camper shell but that truck never drove the same. Of course he blamed me. He never found the subwoofer mounted to the underside of the floor right below his bed though. Low frequency rumble disturbs the sleep patterns.
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2019 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have a vacation rental here on The Island. My rental cutoff is 179 days. Anything under that number is not covered under rental eviction laws that you all are talking about. The law treats it just like staying in a hotel. If they refuse to leave, they do not have any rights to stay in the condo and I can call the police to have them removed. I researched the laws very carefully before getting into this.
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