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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suzuki has brought out a new Katana based on the GSX-S1000/F. I've gotta admit...I like it.


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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What size is the front tire?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most likely 120/70-17. I can't imagine they (literally) reinvented the wheel for the bike, most likely using GSX-spec wheels and tires.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty good shot at re-imaging the design. My lottery ticket bike is an XN85.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_XN85

I lusted after that bike, but I was only 15ish... it sat and sat and.... sat on the sales floor in Hermitage TN. I schemed and thought about how to buy it, failed. Listened to Mike the parts guy roll off, the turbo spinning up...

Learned some meat/squid bought it and wadded it within a month.

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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the headlight/fairing... it reminds me of the emerging street bikes of the late 80's... GpZ's and the like.



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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe even of the original Katana?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As if they did it on purpose...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love the retro turn signals too. Not.

No idea why the manufacturers have drifted away from the integrated mirror/turn signal?

Other than that, I like it.

Specs?
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to Ultimate Motorcycling:


quote:

2020 Suzuki Katana Specs:
ENGINE

Type: Four-stroke inline four
Bore x stroke: 73.4 mm x 59.0mm
Displacement: 999cc
Compression ratio: 12.2:1
Maximum Power: 150 horsepower @ 10,000 rpm
Maximum Torque: 80 ft/lbs @ 9500 rpm
Valve Train: DOHC, 4 vpc
Fueling: Fuel injection
Cooling: Liquid
Transmission: 6-speed constant mesh
CHASSIS

Frame: Aluminum twin-spar
Front suspension: Fully adjustable 43mm KYB fork
Rear suspension: Linkage-assisted shock w/ adjustable rebound damping and spring preload
Wheels: Cast aluminum
Tires: Dunlop Roadsport 2
Front tire: 100/70 x 17
Rear tire: 190-/50 x 17
Front brake: 320mm floating disc w/ Brembo two-piston floating caliper
ABS: Standard
DIMENSIONS and CAPACITIES

Wheelbase: 57.5 inches
Rake: 25 degrees
Trail: 3.9 inches
Seat height: 32.5 inches
Fuel capacity: 3.2 gallons
Wet weight: 474 pounds
2020 Suzuki Katana Colors/Price:
Metallic Mystic Silver/TBD




I'm pretty sure the front tire is a 120/70-17.

I haven't been very interested in fully faired bikes since the 90's. Everything's gone a bit wild with stealth fighter styling.

While I like the looks the GSX-S1000 naked is probably more practical (less expensive, lower insurance, sixteen pounds lighter).


The GSXS-1000F has better wind protection, but lacks severely in the style department.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No idea why the manufacturers have drifted away from the integrated mirror/turn signal?

Perhaps because people tend to ditch their mirrors for better ones...
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The GSX-S1000/F/Katana use a detuned K5-K8 long stroke GSX-R1000 derived motor. Depending on the dyno they make a legitimate 135-145 RWHP and impressive torque. It's not a powerplant that'll destroy the competition, but it's certainly enough.

The 2018's were supposed to pick up about 5hp due to improved crankcase ventilation, but this dyno comparison shows the opposite.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It probably wouldn't be too tough to turn what I'm assuming are front running lamps into turn signals.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The tank is rather small at 3.2 gallons, but the bikes are known for outstanding fuel mileage...most averaging roughly 42mpg. Not too shabby for a liter bike of decent performance.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My XB12S tank is around 3 gallons and I get 45 mpg with moderate flogging. I've never had a four, so is that 42 mpg good?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I'm wringing it out, my Z1000 gets about 36mpg.

If I'm tooling down the highway, best case scenario is around 42mpg.

I've got the Power Commander III so it dumps more fuel than it did with the stock map.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah...most of the competition gets MPG figures in the mid to high 30's in mixed riding and into the mid to high 20's in spirited riding.

The Yamaha triples do pretty good, but they're also losing 100cc's, one cylinder, 20ft-lbs, and almost 40hp.
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Adrenaline_junkie
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And 60 lbs lighter for the Yamahammer triple.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My XB12S tank is around 3 gallons... 3.8 gallons.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My fillups after the light comes on are about 3 gallons.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup. 3/4 gal "reserve" once the light is on. 0.8...0.75...same difference.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do like those Yamaha's.

The XSR is the best looking of the current crop of neo cafe bikes, IMO.


The FZ/MT-09 is nice ergonomically and would make a descent sport standard/hooligan machine. The build quality feels cheap-ish, however.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In person, I give the nod to the Z900RS / Z900RS Cafe...

https://www.kawasaki.com/category/motorcycle?cm_re =GLOBALNAV-_-SUBCATEGORYROW-_-VIEWALL

They look right, they feel right, they ride right..and they SOUND right.

And that 4:1, double-wall stainless, triple-polished header is simply...art.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Kawi is a little too UJM for me.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2018 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Z900RS

Takes me back to 1975, with some of the refinements that I did not know I needed back then. That year marked the biggest trip of my life so far...83xx miles in 6 weeks. Although, at 63 in 2017, I put on 4319 miles on my "pretty bike", the S2T, in 10 days.

According to the BLS inflation caculator, it's cheaper today $11200 (adjusted for inflation) than it was when I bought it new for $2525 OTD.

I wonder if they fixed the frame tweaking?

Curious now...thanks Rat
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2018 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the XSR.
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