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Ltbuell
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sad day..Stan Lee passed away.Looked up to him for who he was and i was an artist back in the 60's/early 70's in high school who was so taken by his stories/art work in the Marvel Comic books.I loved to do the same art work that he was doing.Excelsior!!!LT
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2018 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



RIP Mr. Lee.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2018 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the great civil rights activists in American history.

Luke Cage & Tchalla were just the overt racism busting elements. The X-Men were the real introduction to prejudice and discrimination many young people could identify with.

All teens are outcasts in a world they never made. They identified with Mutants...... And Howard, in a way most adults didn't comprehend. A generation grew up in the 70-80's learning about racism & sexism in their comic books far better than the rapidly decaying education system dared to, with censorship of classic literature trying to erase history and soften the lessons of intolerance.

Violence, in the tragic figure of Wolverine, the most popular Marvel character, was better, and more rationally addressed and contextualized than in contemporary pablum literature.

All thanks to Stan Lee.

The Mob behavior and selfish callousness of the young "adults" today shock the previous generations raised on the idealism Marvel taught us.

Would Hyphen-Cortez and the other spawn of Hydra have been better, smarter, kinder, and more rational human beings if they had followed Stan Lee instead of Karl Marx?

I have zero doubts.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He will be missed, but I really didn't like most of what he wrote. I am into other things from other artists and Marvel mostly didn't do anything for me. DC's Vertigo line and a few of the other smaller companies were the ones that got my money.
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I started reading FF comix in 63-64.
My BFF/cousin and I were at the convenience store every month getting the new issue.
Had the FF that Silver Surfer and Spiderman debuted...
Somewhere I've got my MMMS card - Merry Marvel Marching Society...

Thought I'd be a "surfer" but wound up being a biker/hippie...

RIP Stan the Man.....

(Message edited by zac4mac on November 13, 2018)
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2018 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/stan-lee-co mics-characters-transformed-america/

George R R Martin says his detractors, complaining that he kills off his characters, ignore Shakespeare. It's a funny rant.

D.C. Comics killed Superman, and Batman, and..... But we all knew it was a stunt. They had plot armor! The comic had their name on the cover..... And didn't stop. Naturally, They were resurrected.

So fake, so predictable. And behind the times.

Over at Marvel, even the characters joked that being killed was temporary, by then.

But what changed?

X-Men. The Phoenix Saga. The death that shook the literary world.

Time and time again I read that writers were inspired to become writers because of that comic. "Phoenix Must Die!" on the cover. Drama, pathos, hard moral choices.

Two works of literary art changed the way people saw comic books. The Dark Knight, and the Phoenix Saga.

The Dark Knight, Watchmen, the dark anti heroes, were isolated novels by a single author, standing on the shoulders of decades of tradition, but apart from the Company main lines.

The Phoenix Saga was in the main line, the popular comic, going where comics never went. Yet was the logical continuation of the established moral compass. Spider-Man was nothing without his Uncle Ben's tragic end. The Uncanny X-Men were the anti racist example for generations.

The death of Jean Grey was the shot heard round the world. Nothing legitimized comics as literature like it did. ( and the pompous literary took notice.... And tried to deny, then dominate )

All from Stan Lee. He didn't draw every comic, or write every line, but it was his characters that suffered, and his characters we fell in love with, to share their pain. His vision of Great Power, and Great Responsibility.

He will be missed.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2018 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXfFjvUgzM
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