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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never mind the difference in training & accuracy. A patriot gets beaten, or shot, and the Media will parrot the Democrats, saying the Nazi deserved it. You punch a paid Antics thug who is assaulting you with a baseball bat, and he's a Martyr to Freedom.

Scale that up, and shiver.

For over 70 years the Left has run a propaganda and educational campaign to imprint the lie that the National Socialist Worker's Party is "right wing" and thus Republican. When confronted with the actual name in English of the Nazi Party, I am told, "it's just words".
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cities will only last a few days. When the food runs out, they may start to appreciate flyover country. And they will have better things to worry about than imagined transgressions by the patriarchy. Like whether they will eat today. Reality will come crashing down around them. The bubble will burst. They will become victims of the criminal element they currently defend. The walk away movement will become a hoard. No, this civil war, if it starts, will end within a few weeks. Besides, as Joe says, we have all the ammunition.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The simple trick is to make them look like us to each other. Super glue MAGA hats onto their heads. Let them eat their own.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine San Francisco becoming a city under siege in The Second American Civil War. Think Leningrad in WWII. The bridges are either destroyed or blocked and the Patriot Marines have the ProgRebs cornered in Frisco from the south while the city is firebombed from the air by the Patriot Air Force. A new city will arise after all the ProgRebs are either killed or surrender to bring The Second American Civil War to an end.

I am thinking of writing the history of The Second American Civil War.


(Message edited by reindog on October 06, 2018)
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harrison_(writer)

Read his Stars & Stripes Triumphant trilogy, first. It may give you plot ideas, ( after all, the story isn't over yet ) like how focusing on a foreign enemy might unite us.

Not that I'm in favor of a false flag operation, or deliberately going to war to calm the revolution. That's been done before, and it was a disaster. See the war between Russia & Japan, where Vyacheslav von Plehve said "What this country needs is a short, victorious war to stem the tide of revolution."

and in the words of Robert Wilson Lynd "The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions."

My reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Short_Victorious _War

I've read Sun Tsu, and Von Clausehoozitz, & others. ( Don't pretend to understand them ; ) ) None of the greatest minds in military history can emphasize enough the results of failure. Some try, but they know people just won't get it until they've been through hell.

Where the fiction writers aid me in my understanding is that the greatest stories and tragedies come from the failures in history. The rise of Nazi Germany, the examples are endless, and mostly ignored in school and in media. History is so boring. Forget it, and make the same mistakes!

Writers like Weber & Drake & Clancy etc. often seek the historical disasters for inspiration, ( if not outright theft ) because that's where great drama is found.

I'd prefer to avoid that drama, thank you.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions."

The Israelis might disagree. : )
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot!

If you're going to go to war you need to be fully committed and without reservation.

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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/anti-fascist -group-plans-potluck-blitz-to-raise-millions-to-co mpel-removal-of-the-trump-pence-regime

Nice folk. sarcasm.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, that is like pointing out the guy who had both parachutes fail from 10,000 feet and lived. Not a great example.

If you are choosing 1967 as your point.

Worse, if it's 1973, where a substantial part of the Israeli Air Force got shot down with missiles using frequencies the Russians knew our planes were not equipped to see, after the N. Vietnamese Communists sent them POW's to be vanished into Secret Police interrogation, & death. Plus, a fairly brilliant ploy by the Egyptian Army to defeat the artificial dunes next to the Suez canal. That was a close call. Not a quick victory.

Or the Current conflict where Yassar Arafat declared war on Israel after rejecting a nation of his own, because Israel would still exist, and he'd be murdered by his own terrorist buddies. That's been going on since before some people who can vote were born. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summ it

But the Russian Japanese war gets top billing because of the quote above.
Here's the 3 minute history version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS1csqutxv4
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/kavanaugh-foes -fill-senate-gallery-with-sounds-of-the-insane/
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/women-to-crazed-femin ists-we-will-fight-you-to-defend-our-men/
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2018 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why did you have to pour cold water all over my humorous post? Not cool, man, not cool.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hangs head in shame....

Well at least we had Paris ( Climate accord rejection )

(Message edited by aesquire on October 07, 2018)
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Ducbsa
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing is safe from them:

http://victorygirlsblog.com/social-justice-wankery -invades-physics/
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/s eedpods_from_the_garden_of_stupid.html

For the title alone! Had to share.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had a horrifying thought.

I previously saw a binary options set. Phd Ford is a deliberate liar, Or Ford was used as a puppet by deliberate liars.

Neat, clean, simple, but..... Probably wrong.

Things are seldom that simple.

Now, armed with two facts, that Phd Ford wrote a paper on implanted false memories, & that she "remembered" her assault in 2012, "during therapy" when someone pointed out Justice Kavenaugh was on Mitt's list for The Supremes, I see a third option.

A women, political activist, who has "scrubbed" her Social Media past recently, may have, voluntarily, with malice aforethought, had a false memory implanted to be used as a weapon against then Judge Kavenaugh, when he was nominated.

Deliberately volunteering for brain washing, sounds like science fiction & fanaticism.

But it is not science fiction. Scholarly papers, including from Phd Ford, are numerous. Many lives have been ruined by implanted false memories, that's well documented. And nearly every person who has been mind F&%$ed by this technique, underwent it voluntarily, as part of therapy. ( therapy by well meaning folk, mostly, despite the monstrous results )

Volunteering to have your mind messed with to pass a polygraph, to be a living weapon against the Enemies of The Holy State, seems insane, but could be considered an act of Faith, a self affirming commitment to a Higher Cause. ( that I consider that Cause literally Satanic, based upon the writings of Marx & Alinsky, doesn't matter to the Faithful, other than casting me in the role of Enemy )

What would the signs of deliberate mind alterations look like, to a laymen, watching the testimony?

Absolute sincerity.
Child like ignorance of facts not implanted.
Conflicting statements with zero self awareness that they are conflicting.
Emotional breakdown when challenged.
Construction of elaborate self delusional defences to protect the implanted false memories.

Every box on that list was checked off during Ford's testimony. Fear of flying, ignorance of the offer to come to her, no memory of details not implanted, etc.

Maybe Ford is a victim of the Left, And a voluntary weapon.

That idea is chilling, to me.
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/0 7/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-calls-for-abolishing-el ectoral-college-shadow-of-slaverys-power/

Just a refresher on why we have that weird Electoral College.

Otherwise New York and California pick the President.

The Founders just had New York. But that was bad enough, back then. They didn't want New York City to have all the power with a dozen other states and upstate NY 's citizens subject to the whims of a single, easily influenced, city state.

Now, it's the 2 most radical, leftist, anti civil rights states that would rule.

Nebraska? Wyoming? Zero say with a " popular vote" election. Hillary or Hyphen Cortez would genuinely be, not their President.

I'll point out that in the microcosm of New York, where The Big Apple chooses a lot more than just the Governor, that the current Emperor Cuomo denies counties that voted against him road repair funds. You think Queen Hyphen Cortez wouldn't similarly punish Idaho?

That doesn't even count the rumor that Hillary's majority vote came from illegal immigrants in CA.

Expect more attacks on the Electoral College from Democrats in the future.
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Strokizator
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'll never happen, so who cares what some libtard thinks?
It takes 2/3 of both houses of Congress and then 3/4's of the the state legislatures to approve an amendment. I don't see the whole of the country's interior states voting to give up the power of their voters to California and New York.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amendment? Who needs an Amendment? Just have a judge declare it so.

Oh... you didn't notice that's what the last weeks circus is all about?

We could have had another member of a racial supremacy organization on the court, like Obama gave us.

La Raza aka The Race, has an interesting history.

https://townhall.com/columnists/tomtancredo/2009/0 7/31/sotomayors-ties-to-la-raza-n1236505

It is both less, and more, racist than it's name makes it seem. The wiki article fails to note the influence of the Soviet Union on the organization. Big surprise. ( maximus sarcasmus )

Fortunately, Kagan is a relatively moderate lefty, despite her time in the Clinton White House defending Bill from a number of criminal accusations.

Kavenough doesn't really shift the Court that much, but is a serious impediment to the Court declaring the Electoral College null & void for whatever reason... ( we didn't WIN!!!! being the real reason )
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just have a judge declare it so.

Fortunately, a single judge can't do that. 5 can though. I've seen a number of 5/4 votes in recent years that came close to overturning portions of out constitution. It really does get scary to see this happening in our country.
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Strokizator
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The courts have issued opinions based upon their interpretation of laws or the bill of rights but the language of the Constitution is pretty clear. No court, no matter how looney, is going to dismiss Article II, section 1.
It would only take 14 states to put the kibosh on any attempt at an amendment.
I'm not losing any sleep over this.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“No court, no matter how looney”

I wouldn’t make that bet. They invented the right to have an abortion. They’ve upheld bans on firearms in common usage, even though the words ‘shall not be infringed’ appear right there in plain English.

All it takes is enough judges to agree with each other. Thank God Hillary is not in a position to nominate Ginsburg’s replacement. You want to see crazy? Because you haven’t seen crazy. Wait until Ginsburg kicks the bucket. The next nominee will be accused of murder, by the victim, and the left will believe it. They will accuse everyone who points out that the victim is still alive of being an accomplice. Yes, I’m exaggerating. But not by much.
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Strokizator
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since I seem to be in the minority, explain to me just how you see this happening; keeping in mind that this challenge to the Constitution would have to work it's way through the lower courts first. I'll spot you the 9th circuit appellate court.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll spot you the 9th circuit appellate court.

The 9th circuit was going to be my answer. I guess you see the pathway for this to happen.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Simple, a Federal judge appointed by Clinton in Hawaii will declare that the National Guard and the Private Armies of the rich are the Milita, and all guns must be surrendered to be held by the State to be well regulated, since no citizen without government approval can be Militia & bear arms.

Then the Electoral College can be declared Unconstitutional by the same judge. Nevermind that it's there in ink on parchment. Pocket Constitutions are Hate Speech.

Progressive judges already declare that illegal, unfunded by Congress, Obama programs created by Executive order cannot be stopped by Executive order.

Legal? That's for them to decide, not you, peasant.

Don't like it? Hate speech, and you get banned from Instaface.... Or whatever brand name some super rich guy runs.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember that the individual mandate in ACA was declared constitutional by a federal judge because ACA would collapse without it. Not because the constitution describes a pathway for the federal government to force you to buy something just because you’re breathing, but because ACA won’t work without it. The judge’s personal desire to see ACA upheld was the only thing weighing on her mind. The electoral college could be declared unfair, in violation of the one person one vote spirit of long established norms, and therefore illegal. They’ll call it a birth defect, the media will sell it hard, and that will be that. If the supreme court had shifted left under a Hillary administration, such a scenario is not, in my estimation, fantastical.

Also recall that, in more lawful times, a constitutional amendment was required to make the volstead act legal because the constitution doesn’t enumerate the right of the federal government to ban a substance. That fact was conveniently forgotten when they banned other substances. We’re still feeling the effects of the organized crime each ban gave rise to.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember correctly, ACA was upheld in the court because the Dems finally admitted that it was merely a tax and that Congress has the authority to levy taxes.
Other scenarios - some judge declaring private ownership of guns is illegal and, as such, everyone will just turn them in - are the stuff of science fiction. You going to turn yours in? Yeah, me neither.
Plenty of sore losers have opined that the electoral college should be done away with but no one in power thinks it's as simple as getting some obscure Clinton appointee to deem the Constitution as unconstitutional.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If those appointees are on the supreme court, their opinions count. You can disagree with them all you like. The folks who actually run the government overwhelmingly lean left, and will happily implement the new voting system. Your concerns, and mine, will be ignored.

Speak of the devil, the “birth defect” argument has already begun.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/10/08/alexandria-o casio-cortez-calls-electoral-college-be-abolished- after-kavanaugh
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What in the world does the electoral college have to do with slavery?
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