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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think there was a previous discussion here a few months ago when a dirt-track inspired street version of the Indian Scout was announced. There's a good thread on ADVrider about the bike; I thought I'd post some of that info here.

Patent drawings:




Alleged spy shot of prototypes:


Alleged leaked shot of prototype:


So apparently this will no longer be considered a Scout variant, but an all-new motorcycle. Interesting features include trellis frame, under-seat gas tank, and the "gas tank" is the air box (wonder where they got that idea?). USD front forks, radial mount dual front calipers, mono shock rear suspension.

Looks like it could be a very cool motorcycle. I'd bet some of the former Buell/EBR guys at Polaris had a hand in this.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yea, Indian has also released a couple of teaser videos:

https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/ftr1200/?ut m_medium=email&utm_source=selligent&utm_campaign=i nd_1809_ftr_teaser_2nd#teaser-videos

Reveal is supposed to be next month, with production bikes available next year.
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Chauly
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

under-seat gas tank, and the "gas tank" is the air box (wonder where they got that idea?

Honda ST1100 :-)
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gold Wing!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

V-Max : )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BMW F800GS
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1313
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

V-Rod

There's one in every crowd...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, apparently if you aren’t logged in to ADVrider you can’t see the pics. Let’s try again:


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Macbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Needs new cans but very nice besides that.
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks a bit toned down from the original concept.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reverse can under the motor with dual side outlets up front.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2018 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it just me or are these similar to some of the Buell ads of old...?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ It’s not just you.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good ideas are good ideas.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got any idea how many times I watched the wheelie? Me neither.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully the final concept will have a foot peg and brake pedal on the right side.
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Adrenaline_junkie
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang it, it's Oct 1st already. Where is the unveiling?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ Apparently they’re not quite as prompt as Buell was with new model unveilings.
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1313
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually I think Buell was just smarter by specifying the date AND time of releases.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here it is:

https://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/first-lo ok-at-the-2019-ftr1200-20-photos-i-think-we-have-a -winner.286922/
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This link and specs were posted earlier today on ADVrider, but the link is already dead, so I'd guess somebody jumped the gun on releasing this info:


quote:

https://gearpatrol.com/2018/10/01/indian-motorcycl e-ftr-1200/

The 1202cc V-twin pumps out 120 horsepower and 85lb-ft of torque, which is more than enough on a bike weighing just under 500lbs.

While the base FTR 1200 is relatively basic, keeping a single analog speedometer and digital read-out, the FTR 1200S ups the tech with a customizable 4.3-inch LCD touchscreen, defeatable ABS, three ride modes and lean angle-sensitive traction and stability control.

The Indian Motorcycle FTR 1200 and 1200S Will be available in spring 2019 at $12,999 and $14,999 respectively with a race-replica colorway at $15,999.




Sounds pretty cool. OTOH, my EBR 1190SX that cost $4k less with 65 more horsepower and ~80 pounds less weight, sounds better all the time.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty slick; they didn't compromise TOO much from the concept to production.

Other than the exhaust, it bears an overall striking resemblance to my S1W. Motor in a trellis frame, 2 wheels, plate mounted on the rear tire...and a one-cheek-seat on a miniscule tail section. With some XB/Loki bits added in - radiators, top-mount airbox that "looks like a gas tank"... Be interesting to take one for a spin when they start arriving...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The official Indian page is finally up:

https://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/flat-track- race/ftr1200/
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hugh, just scanned that site.

SIICCK. That thing will sell like hotcakes at the state fair, IMHO. Look out, Ducati, might be a Monster mash!!
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to say that it shows a lot of potential and promise.

I'll be honest;I don't want to like it, but I find it attractive in spite of that. If it runs as good as it looks, it'll be a winner. I'd take it in a heartbeat over a Ducati Monster; it doesn't have Rube Goldberg inspired valve actuation. But I still prefer a new Roadster to either of the above bikes.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just read Steve Anderson's First Ride report over at Cycle World. It sounds pretty nice, but the seat height is 33.1". I've got a 29" inseam, so that looks like a deal breaker for me. Still, I'll wait until I do a Demo Ride before passing final judgement. It was a Demo Ride that made me fall in love with Buells. It was also a Demo Ride that killed my enthusiasm for a Triumph.

Before I commit to spending 15 Grand, I want to ride one and see if I'll be happy on it.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds pretty nice, but the seat height is 33.1".

John, if you look at the official Indian page, that appears to be the height of the passenger portion. The rider seat is 31.7”.

(Message edited by Hughlysses on October 01, 2018)
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2018 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1203cc...hmm....where have I seen that before...?

60" wheelbase seems a bit long; guess it depends on the geometry.

I like the twin Brembos - wonder if they did it right with a Brembo MC. Time will tell.

Forks LOOK like Ohlins...but you'd think they'd call it out.

Touchscreen and cruise - pretty cool. If its the same hardware they use in the RideCommand on the heavyweights, you can run that screen - reliably - in snowboarding gloves. Apple could learn from them.

And I will say, the ride modes make a HUGE difference - they debuted them on the heavyweights a month ago, and WOW, what a difference.

Be interesting to see one when it comes out. Anxious to take one for a spin.
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