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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As noted above - Ronnie won, way back when.

And, Trump won the Presidency.

I think - I HOPE - that all bets are off as far as predictability and the 'usual' result pathway for elections.

The MSM is force-feeding their audience the liberal-left mantra, but the (obviously significant) Right is smart enough - and fully able - to go find the real information outside the MSM.

And the MSM does all the "predictions", so how do you think they're going to lean?
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It just is about impossible for an R to win that state.

I used to live there; your points are all valid.

What if President Trump came out to Cali and held a MAGA Rally for John Cox (like he's doing tonight in WV for Patrick Morrisey)?

Might that change the odds? : )
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Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of dirty money and prison, I'm sure you've heard about Manafort. 80 years maximum for trial number one.
Trial Number Two will be the big one.
Looks like Cohen has flipped or will do so very soon. That should be entertaining, God knows what dirt he has on Mr. Trump and his family but I'm sure it involves financial dealings with a hostile, foreign power.
What I'm really looking forward to is that "Lock Her Up!" goofball getting dragged into court. Wasn't his last escapade a kidnapping plot with his son? Something about getting paid for stuffing a guy from Turkey into a car trunk and then sticking him into an airplane bound for an island? Just crazy.

As Sean Spicer said, "You can't make this stuff up!"
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you sure? Really? Based on what?
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing Manafort has been indicted for has anything to do with Trump or the Trump campaign...unless they were colluding with Ukrainians.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trump will never see a court room. You delusional tools need to get a grip.

Also, Cohens deal doesn't include anything about being a cooperating witness. Lastly, anything he could say about Trump would likely get tossed out of court due to attorney client privilege.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fb1, Hillary carried Cali by a huge margin. And they've gone full lefty nutso since. I just don't think a R has a chance at Governor.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/the_s even_stages_of_trump_derangement_syndrome.html
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fb1, Hillary carried Cali by a huge margin. And they've gone full lefty nutso since. I just don't think a R has a chance at Governor.

Yeah, I get all that. I still hold out hope, however, based in part on the significant swamp-draining P45 has already accomplished in such a short time in office, and his complete and total endorsement of John Cox (which certainly won't be the last cheerleading we'll see in this regard as November draws nearer). Candidate Cox, for his part, needs to be shouting "MAGA!" every chance he gets.

California once elected Ronald Reagan.

Fingers crossed Cali can do it again.

: )
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

California in the 80s is not California in the teens. There is no chance.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will happily eat crow.
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reagan was a long, long time ago and Cali has run off many conservatives since then. I hope I am wrong and I too will hold out hope.
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ever since the "assault weapon ban" sunset in 2004, California has gone full libtard. There's been a massive influence of assorted elitists in various disciplines that've effectively controlled the narrative and political direction since then.

Unfortunately the flight of middle class residents to surrounding states comes with an infestation of the same political leanings they fled.

In the end it comes down to a clash of cultures...the social authoritarians and economic fascists vs rugged individualists and economic liberals. The most absurd aspect of it all is the way in which the authoritarian Big Brother types ascribe their intentions and attributes to their political adversaries.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They would do it to you, so they assume you would do it to them. Classic projection.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no chance.

There certainly IS a chance IF John Cox and patriotic California voters fight like their very lives depend on it.

Hmmmmm, maybe P45 holds several MAGA rallies in support of Candidate Cox between now and November, say, in LA, Sacto and SF. Might that change the odds?

: )
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The odds of more people having their skulls bashed in by antifa fascists would go up, yes. But it wouldn't change the odds of a republican being elected governor of California. California has a lot further to fall before they hit bottom and do some serious soul searching.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know...there's a good bit of rumbling, outside of the entertainment industry flakes anyway.

Business owners are business owners, after all. Paychecks are paychecks. Profits are profits. And most businessfolk are bright enough to understand what's happening...and why.

I just wish we'd get our shit together here in MD. Baltimore is starting to look like freakin' Chicago. Not good.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

A Bad Day In Court
By John Hinderaker - Aug 21, 2018

Some years ago, a lawyer was kicked to death by a moose in the parking lot of the federal courthouse in Anchorage, Alaska. That’s how the story goes, anyway. Local lawyers said, that’s a really bad day in court.

President Trump didn’t have that bad a day in court today, but it wasn’t great. I was on the radio, hosting the Laura Ingraham show, when breaking news came across the wire: the Paul Manafort jury had gone to the judge with a question, saying they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict on any count. The judge did what judges always do. He told them to keep trying. I was exultant, thinking that a hung jury would deal a serious blow to the Mueller Switch Project. Alas, it was not to be. The jury continued deliberating and, as Paul noted a little while ago, convicted Manafort on eight counts of what essentially amounted to tax evasion.

As Paul said, the Manafort charges had nothing to do with Donald Trump, nothing to do with the 2016 election, and nothing to do with Russian participation in the 2016 election. So Bob Mueller could only have brought the case in order to put pressure on Manafort to come up with some “dirt” on Mueller’s target, President Trump. As far as we know, Manafort has no dirt to give.

Meanwhile, and almost simultaneously, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to a series of offenses. Mostly, the counts relate to tax evasion. The only politically significant counts, as I understand it, relate to Cohen’s role in paying off Stephanie Clifford (“Stormy Daniels”) to keep quiet about her sexual encounter with Trump.

It is not illegal to pay someone to remain silent. The theory here is that the money paid to Clifford was an illegal campaign contribution. Since Cohen says he made the payment to Clifford at Trump’s direction, Mueller is trying to ensnare Trump in that “crime.” To my knowledge, there is no legal authority on whether paying a woman to keep her mouth shut constitutes a campaign contribution. It strikes me as a foolish interpretation of the law, and forcing Cohen to plead guilty to the “crime” of paying off Ms. Clifford doesn’t transform it into a crime.

None of this would be happening, of course, but for Bob Mueller’s effort to drive President Trump from office on behalf of his de facto client, the Democratic Party. In a nauseating bit of hypocrisy, Deputy U.S. attorney Robert Khuzami said today that “The essence of what this case is about is justice, and that is an equal playing field for all persons in the eyes of the law….” Equal justice has nothing to do with this prosecution. Michael Cohen was targeted solely because he was Trump’s personal lawyer, and enforcement of campaign finance law is anything but equal. Just ask Dinesh D’Souza.

As we and others have said many times, what is going on in the courts is mostly theater–unless, of course, you are Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen. President Trump can’t be indicted, so legal niceties are not very material. The Mueller Switch Project has three objectives: 1) furnish House Democrats (assuming they take the majority in November) with ammunition to impeach the President; 2) help the Democrats to win the midterm elections; and 3) make President Trump’s re-election less likely in 2020.

Today’s legal developments unquestionably represent a step forward for the Democrats on all three fronts. But in principle, there is no reason why they should change the landscape. Manafort’s conviction has nothing to do with Trump. And no matter how Mueller may try to dress it up with talk about campaign finance–which voters don’t care about, anyway–the Cohen plea simply confirms what we already knew–that Trump tried to keep Stephanie Clifford quiet. That may be a big deal to Melania, I can’t speak for her. But I doubt that it is a big deal to a significant number of voters, and I doubt that tomorrow’s headlines will move the needle on the midterm election.

So, yeah, President Trump had a bad day in court. But it could have been worse. He could have been kicked to death by a moose.



Source: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/08/a-b ad-day-in-court.php


None of this would be happening, of course, but for Bob Mueller’s effort to drive President Trump from office on behalf of his de facto client, the Democratic Party.

Yep.

Equal justice has nothing to do with this prosecution. Michael Cohen was targeted solely because he was Trump’s personal lawyer, and enforcement of campaign finance law is anything but equal. Just ask Dinesh D’Souza.

Yep.

The Mueller Switch Project has three objectives: 1) furnish House Democrats (assuming they take the majority in November) with ammunition to impeach the President; 2) help the Democrats to win the midterm elections; and 3) make President Trump’s re-election less likely in 2020.

Yep.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be curious to have Melania come forward, now that that's been brought up. Wonder how that would play in the media?
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder how that would play in the media?

How does virtually EVERYTHING Trump-related play in the media?

Bonus question: ^ Why?

: )
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find this all very sad. I was brought up believing that the US didn't hold political prisoners. Recent years have absolutely shattered that believe for me.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that change in attitude was summed up in a post I saw here last week sometime:

"welcome to the USSA"...
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/2 2/delingpole-trump-what-happens-when-the-wind-does nt-blow/

I understand Trump doesn't drink....Or else this administration would have the tagline.... "Hold my beer, I gotta tweet a new made up word to make them crazy!"

American media, has there ever been a more humorless, easily trolled, bunch of arrested adolescents in history? Other than the Kim Dynasty.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We appear to be living in a Post-Constitutional society according to Marc Levin. There is no justice, only political connections. A police state or anarchy can not be far behind.
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO, we are approaching the tipping point where either the citizens stand up and demand change and take action if that change is not enacted or the country is lost.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think before that, the wrong liberal(s) will piss off the wrong conservative(s), and some conservative(s) will fight back.

Remember who knows HOW to use their sidearms?

It won't go well, once conservatives are finally pushed past the breaking point. Patience and tolerance can only last for so long, while stupidity and anger know no bounds. Libs will keep getting dumber and dumber; conservatives' patience will continue to grow shorter.

I'm not looking forward to it, but I take comfort in the fact I live behind 19" thick stone walls with good sightlines...should things turn that sour.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/08/2 2/exclusive-ann-coulter-trump-represents-what-libe rals-hate-about-america-which-is-americans

This speaks to your comments.

Will the citizens stand up against oppression when the Progressives use violence against them on a bigger scale than in college campuses & Soros sponsored ANTIFA staged riots? Yes, but not how they think.

There is a fundamental difference between the Left & the Middle. ( there is no real Right in America, just a handful of fringes )

The difference is respect for, and respect from, the rank and file Law enforcement officers. The Mayors of Berkeley and Baltimore can order the police to get out of the way when the Progressive Mayors want a riot. But they won't have as much success ordering their police to fire on peaceful protesters who use typically non confrontation tactics. Not, unfortunately, zero success in ordering murders, but the "f%$& those civilian bastards" mentality seems restricted to a few Federal agencies, and a small minority in those agencies, even the ones with a record of abuse and "accidentally murdering" like BATF & FBI.

Will the Baltimore police open fire on families at a prayer meeting in the park? I doubt it. Not impossible, but unlikely.

Will concerned citizens open fire on the Baltimore police? Not a chance. That's their neighbors and friends they meet at school events.

Will outside agitators bused in by Soros/Obama/Bernie paid organizations open fire on the police? Yes. If I'm taking bets, this fall, before the elections, and CNN will blame the NRA and Donald.

But.... This isn't the 1960's. With the internet and "doxing" there are places to find the home addresses of politicians.

Social media enables flash mobs, for every purpose from mob thefts at stores overwhelmed by trashing thieves anonymous in the crowd, to cosplay musicals in airports.

At this point in the logic chain.... I stop. Your imagination can take you anywhere you want to go. But I wouldn't discuss those places in your heads on the permanent record of a forum or in front of Alexa, or with Facebook listening..... If you are stupid enough to leave a microphone plugged in or enabled on your laptop/tablet/phone.

Let stupid people brag about assassination plots and other crimes no Patriot would condone.

We should stand for law & order, respectful disagreements, and peaceful coexistence. All while remembering General Mattis's advice.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good article:

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/403072-did-pr esident-trump-violate-campaign-finance-laws
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I, for one, will proudly stand among brothers and sisters in blue, should it come to that.

And I know I'm not alone.

I suspect the left has either forgotten that, discounts that...or it has never occurred to them.

Yet.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2018 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We should stand for law & order, respectful disagreements, and peaceful coexistence. All while remembering General Mattis's advice.

Very well said, amigo.


I suspect the left has either forgotten that, discounts that...or it has never occurred to them.

The left (more importantly, the folks pulling the left's strings) are counting on chaos and discord - it's one of the few tools remaining in their arsenal (a very powerful tool, considering "they" own the bulk of the mainstream media).

President Trump (who is volunteering his time; dare I say it, this seems quite Founding Father-ish) is working overtime to get our country running in tippy-top shape (while simultaneously nuking the myriad of support columns that prop up the swamp, in preparation for the eventual Big Bang).

By every metric our country is now functioning at historic, or near-historic, levels.

A rising tide lifts all boats, it is said.

And indeed, ALL Americans - regardless of skin color, gender, age, etc. - are benefiting.

This sudden success, so soon after P45 was inaugurated, is extremely dangerous to the left. It is helping destroy the Mainstream Matrix, and adding greatly to P45's street cred.

Hence, part of the reason the left is fighting so hard to foment chaos and despair.

The battle right now is for the midterms (to be more accurate, there are multiple battles taking place, some in the public sphere, many much less so).

P45's "bad day in court" was a coordinated hit (Cohen's plea agreement is relatively old news, but it's not a coincidence this "news" broke at exactly the same moment Manafort's legal misfortunes broke).

Remember in the movie "Titanic," when the stern of the ill-fated ship is vertical and just seconds away from plunging into the depths?

That's the left, hanging in suspension, knowing what's coming and desperately clawing and scratching for even another second before their ship makes its final death dive.

And the "despair" expressed yesterday on this thread, multiplied by a zillion patriots across the country echoing the same thoughts, is EXACTLY what the left is counting on.

Dig in, peeps. This is war, and the left doesn't fight fair. So be it.

Turn off your televisions! About the only thing worth watching on TV these days is Barnwood Builders. If you get your "news" via TV, shame on you.

If you get your "news" via a newspaper, shame on you.

(And if you get your news from ANYTHING related to Media Matters, SHAME ON YOU!)

Steel your resolve, reload, and approach the midterms like our lives depend on the outcome.

This. Is. War.
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