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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw it. Good. Two thumbs up.

The Lando bit didn't phase me. It's not like there is any sex, other than a few fairly mild kisses. Male to female human, if You have weird sex hang ups. I may have to notify the SPLC on the above droid racism! ; )

Seriously, I didn't ever feel preached at.

I laughed, I cried, got misty eyed. ( the appropriate manly welling, but not released, tear, if you care about other's reactions. I always cry at Disney movies. I got nuttin to prove. )

Space ships, explosions, plot twists... Star Wars.

I liked it better than VII, way better than 1-3.

Worth the ticket price.

I don't get the low sales. It's like the studio wanted it to fail?

Wonder Woman also seemed to suffer studio interference and sabotage. Hollywood has a lot of mean & stupid people.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Lando thing didn't bother me, it's just not something I would have chosen. It adds nothing.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I want to avoid spoilers. So try and remember to get back to me on why I think it was done like it was done.

I could be completely wrong, and it was some deviant plot to promote droid sex.... which is a current news item, with the new generation of Sex Bots.



I still am not fond of the phlebotinum that runs the Wars technology.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Applied Phlebotinum

But since I accept it in other literature, like the Green, Red, and Gold rocks that affect that illegal alien, Kal El, I just grumble about it from time to time. : )

My real complaint is schitzo tech in the whole series. Pure nerd stuff here, I admit.

In The Last Jedi, we see the Empire & First Order is capable of making blaster resistant armor, but only one person has it. Why? The stock answer is the Empire is cheap and storm troopers are disposable, so why bother? It's a crapsack world, and it's run by ruthless, uncaring monsters.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Crapsac kWorld

As A 20th Century American, I was brought up with the attitude that troops are expensive, but hardware is cheap. It takes over a million dollars to train a fighter pilot, a bit less for infantry, but still, we know that giving our troops a technological edge is good for winning. And Winning should be important.

Of course that attitude can go too far.

We don't build enough modern airplanes to lose any. And we have lost some. We only built 100 B-1bs. Less than 200 F-22s, and 21 B-2s. That means that every B-2 lost is 5% of our total capacity. We have a lot more pilots than cutting edge hardware. And buying the sexy stuff means they keep trying to get rid of the old stuff that is still needed, like the A-10.

Or, there are tornadoes.

http://www.tailsthroughtime.com/2010/06/prior-to-a rrival-of-boeing-b-52.html

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Magazin e%20Documents/2016/October%202016/1016b36.pdf

One storm knocked out a major chunk of our bomber force in one day.

Kelly Johnson, Lockheed chief engineer, of P-38, P-80, U-2, and SR-71 fame, ( and A-12 secrets ) is rumored to have said that someday the Air Force will get the plane that does everything it wants, but they'll only be able to afford one. And they will lock it in a vault so nothing can happen to it.

The Star Wars Empire also seems to have that disease. See also Death Star. Death Star 2, and Starkiller Base. ( renamed from Deathstar 3 to fool the bureaucrats into thinking they were buying a new program, and not following up two epic failures )
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reminds me of the Japanese "divine wind".
Weather doesn't give a crap how many bullets you have or if you were planning a picnic that day.

The first enemy a soldier has to overcome is always the Earth itself.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


We've got a thing, and it's called robot love...
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire wrote: "The tech in Star Trek is understandable. Sure, the technobabble is strong and bogus, but warp drive, transporters, flip phones, and Alexa all have rationalized explanations, and build on known science."

Have you seen: "How William Shatner Changed the World"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjlF_iSo1Og

Quite revealing.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frank Zappa had a good term for the droid sex... Appliantology.

Great fun!
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2018 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just watched a commentary on the Justice League movie's treatment of women. The Amazon's armor got the bare midriff treatment, showing off the abs. Some were annoyed. Also, Wonder Woman with the new cinematographer/Director got lots of upward shots to show off that fine Amazonian Butt.

True, All True. Sexist pigs! I enjoyed it. Anyway.

The lame villain, poor special effects, and the darned lip. All those were horrid. You'd think spending million$ on a CGI upper lip by now would be seamless, but it was like inserting Polar Express's Uncanny Valley in a different movie.

http://theforestscout.com/uncanny-christmas-polar- express-creeps/

Just enough to creep you out.

Or maybe because he just couldn't brood properly. DC movie, after all.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/how-to-save-star-war s/
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. My sis just sent me this, wasn't even aware of such madness/beauty...

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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2018/06/04/pree mptive-consensus
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got to see it over the weekend, I was originally just gonna wait for it to show up on Netflix or similar, but the opportunity to see it at no additional cost came the other day. I'll try and talk in generalities to avoid spoiling.


I don't get what you guys are going on about with robot sex, I didn't get that vibe at all. It was clear that Lando and the bot cared for each other more than they verbally expressed (common trope in rom-coms), but man and sentient machine or animal becoming close and saddened by loss is also nothing new.

For a movie about Han's back story, I found it to be pretty lacking on back story. We start off with him in love with the mother of dragons, on the run trying to escape a crap planet, then next into the army. That isn't much backstory and really felt like a cop-out to me. It was good to see how Han and Chewie meet, also Lando, and the Falcon. It also felt like Lando had more backstory development than Han.


The nostalgia circle jerk seemed excessive and held the movie back. Yea, we get it, you are talking about Jabba when mentioning the "big gangster" over and over.

I did like Donald Glover as Lando, but didn't buy this guy as a good Han. My Fiancé has the opposite opinion and liked Han but said this Lando wasn't as smooth as the other one.

The movie was decent and watchable, certainly better than Force Awakens, Rogue One and the old crap from the 70s. It still does not hold a candle to Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. See it when it comes at no cost to your favorite streaming medium, don't even spend a dollar at Redbox for it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the old crap from the 70s better than any of the later films, including the reproduced old crap from the 70s.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For my part, I really do like each of the movies for different reasons.

I hope they make a lot more of them. It gives me a chance to get the wife and kids all together for 3+ hours to eat and laugh together.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can watch the old crap from the 70s over and over and over. That's my sign for a great movie. THere is only one from the 70s, but we get it.

And yeah the "Special Edition" stuff was totally UNnecessary and detracts from the movies. IMHO that was the start Lucas' sellout.

Han shot first!

(Message edited by fresnobuell on June 05, 2018)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Han shot first!

He was the only one who fired his weapon. Greedo was murdered - justifiable homicide.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "old crap from the 70's" will always be the true Star Wars saga. Blasphemer.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, someone points a gun at me, they’re asking to get shot.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This might be a silly question and I haven't done any research, but is it possible to buy the non-"Special Edition" Star Wars movies? I know everything I have seen on TV for the last um-teen years has been SPecial Edition.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spoilers!

The plot, botched caper leading to another caper, is repeated in bigger & bigger Bad Choices throughout the movie.

"Tell Jabba I'm going to get his money" is the Solo curse.

Do we really need to see the Imperial Acadamy? I mean, it would be pretty, but there's only so much time you have to tell a story. This isn't a Peter Jackson saga that lasts nine hours in three parts without Director cut additions.

Besides, they spent more money than most wars in history, partly in reshoots with changes in directors and vision. The BluRay might have the stuff you like with special effects missing.

Perfect? Not even close. But how much back story do we need? More beatings as a child? That might be just what it needed to be the most hated film, more child abuse.

Won't argue about the actors, I agree. Lando, the GF, and the Mentor, all well done. Han? Just ok. But the intent is a ",coming of age" story, so a bit vague is proper.

The Lando -L3 friendship is SOP drama. Give the audience a character to care for, then put them through hell. If there's no reason to care, there's no reason for the character.

Won't argue relative merit on the new films vs. Each other.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns1m_aXJa58
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Bill Whittle youtube link above is well worth watching.

The really important part is, No One ( except George Lucas when he went insane ) thought Han Solo was a cold blooded killer. Not when the movie came out, not today.

In fact, I would argue he's the most loved character in the whole series. Luke was a whiny brat, his dad was a whiny adult, Obi Wan has his flaws, etc. etc.

Because he shot first. You might be too young to remember westerns, and might think they were all black & white morality. Oh, so wrong. The Searchers, alone makes that a myth. Over and over, the morality of the use of violent force is argued and rehashed and on and on.

And people don't like Cold Blooded Killers.

We love reforming bad guys. Leon The Professional. The Outlaw Josey Wales. etc.

Han Solo was the arch typical "reluctant Hero". A staple in comics of the time,and cinema. He just wanted to be left alone to live his life. He didn't want to get involved in any political crap, since that gets you killed and there is no profit to it, and in his experience, no winning.

But he gets drawn into plots of others and his own character won't let him abandon those he has made his own, or feels obligated to.

THAT, I thought SOLO did a good job showing us how he became the man we saw in that dive in Mos Eisley spaceport.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell, you have to pirate it, but there is a fan made de-specialized version out there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy%27s_Despeciali zed_Edition
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ignoring the Last Jedi atrocity, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones are the worst Star Wars movies, IMO.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You want an Obi Wan stand alone movie?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno, the original versions of Star Wars are still available.

Search around on Amazon and you'll find them.

Personally, I have two separate copies on VHS - one set remains unopened, and I also have a new VCR in the box, for the eventuality that the VCR I actually use ends up eating the tapes I actually play.

I'm set.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2018 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm pretty sure that is fan made. They haven't even announced the Obi Wan movie let alone produced any film / trailers. (although it has been rumored)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2018 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they don't make a Kenobi movie, then I will eat my hat.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2018 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you've seen The Last Jedi, go see "how it should have ended" on youtube. I laughed.

The nice actress who played Rose was so picked on that she fled Instagram. People were so unfairly mean and vicious.

Bunch of arse holes. The actress didn't write her part, the dialog isn't her fault. Not her fault some punk doesn't think she's pretty enough, skinny enough, white enough.

It's hard enough enjoying a movie or tv show when the actor is a loud mouth jerk on politics or defends accused rapists, or raises money for a politician. You just have to realize all actors are expected to be good at is short term memory, parroting the lines written for them, and pretending to be a person.

Accept they should have those limited talents and be idiots elsewhere, or if you can't, don't watch.

Fans are funny.

My sister, and many other Grey's Anatomy fans, freaked out when their beloved character..... The actor who played that character, got a job as The Comedian in the movie Watchmen. They can't deal with their memories of the kindly, blah blah guy and the very Bad guy in a different movie & roll.

Go figure.
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