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     Hootowl |
I’ll bet he’s white too. | ||
| Aesquire |
Pale blue. So all travel is rape? That's a consistent doctrine. Misogynistic? Hold on. Let me check. "Honey, am I a misogynist? " Apparently so.  | ||
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| Aesquire |
https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-ins ists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5362821/FB I-lovers-texts-Obama-wanted-info-Clinton-email-pro be.html Anyone surprised Obama lied to you? | ||
| Macbuell |
First, let me say I despise Obama. That said, according to what I have heard from numerous sources the information that Obama wanted from the FBI was in regards to their Russian investigation into meddling in the election. So it could be tied to the FISA stuff but it doesn't look like it is tied to the Clinton email investigation. The timing works to because the request was shortly before he was due to meet with Putin and one of the things he was to address with him were concerns around Russian interference in the election. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Isn't that when he told Putin to, "cut it out." If those were his words, how did the interpreter keep from laughing at the weakness? (Message edited by ducbsa on February 09, 2018) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/di sinformation_russian_espionage_infiltration_influe nce_peddling_and_sabotage.html They didn't laugh because it wasn't in the script. They are well accustomed to being in a stage play with no relation to reality. Ask yourself. ... since CNN won't, who paid for Obama to fly to Pakistan for training? How did he get a passport to a restricted country? Did he remain in Pakistan or was he given a crash course outside of Moscow? Has anyone asked his college buddy who went with him? ( I'll skip the alleged lover/blackmail angle. It can get you killed ) Candidate Bernie Sanders went to Moscow for his honeymoon. Got an opportunity he couldn't miss for advanced indoctrination. I understand why some believe in the Illuminati or aliens with no evidence. It's far easier than to admit they bought the lies of real people. For a century the Soviets bribed, blackmailed, murdered, & lied to influence other countries including us. There's no need to invent imaginary evil when the world already has shallow mass graves. The textbook on lying to steal power is available at Amazon. Hillary Clinton's senior thesis was about Rules For Radicals. Deserters from the Worker's Paradise that evaded the land mines & walls to keep them from leaving, have long told us the truth. ( notice the fury about walls to keep people out. Compare and Contrast. (5% total grade )) | ||
| Toro |
I met President Obama once. I got to hang out with him for about 1.5 hours over lunch. He's a great guy. Very decent guy. Quite down to earth. I know that Barack Obama isn't anything like you portray him to be Patrick. | ||
| Court |
I confess my opinion of Obama is pretty much the college slacker (wait till his transcripts see the light of day) sitting in a a parked car on 112th rolling joints . . . But . . . I confess my opinion is based on a single source of information. Obama's own words. The guy's a joke. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Acting like a decent guy over dinner and drinks is one thing. Being a liar and a crook typically doesn't come to the surface as dinner-talk. I've worked with countless "stars" and "figures" over my career in the entertainment industry. You get one person on stage/in character, and can get a completely DIFFERENT person backstage or over drinks. Sometimes that's awesome. My all-time favorite is John Astin (from Addams Family fame). Amazing actor, but offstage one of the most genuine, kind, good-hearted men I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. Sometimes...it's not so awesome. I continue to give benefit of the doubt, but the example that sticks in my mind at the "••••••" end of the spectrum was Martina McBride. I wouldn't have pissed on her head if her hair was on fire. That woman was incorrigable. On stage, she was "Martina", the singer her fans expected. Offstage? Nope. Absolutely horrid. Again - benefit of the doubt, maybe she had a bad bus trip to the gig, or hadn't been sleeping right, or...whatever. She was still a bitch to every member of my crew. I'll let you decide, via facts in the news that are coming to light about his presidency and the actions he took; and the public persona he put on for speeches and events; "which 0bama" you had dinner with. My guess after decades in the Industry? You ate with the stage presence; with the character of president. Not the actor himself. | ||
| Sifo |
I met President Obama once. I got to hang out with him for about 1.5 hours over lunch. He's a great guy. Very decent guy. Quite down to earth. I know that Barack Obama isn't anything like you portray him to be Patrick. I'd be curious to hear about how you got to "hang out" with President BO for 1.5 hours. Details please. No doubt, there is a difference between the man and the politician. I don't think the man would ever kill someone, one on one. As a politician, he did brag about how he was good at killing people. As we are now seeing the details of, he used the various Federal agencies to illegally target his political opposition. Not just politicians, but regular people. BO, the politician, who during a government shut down, ordered his people to make "as painful as possible" for the people of out nation. Oh yes, a very decent guy.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Nice fellow? Pleasant and classy? That describes a lot of sociopaths. Not that I say Barry is one. Just go to his actions not his persona. I'm sure that if he didn't read the following he'd be nice to party with. ( George Bush the Younger was also a very nice guy to hang out with. ) Actions. Arab Spring, supported or directly caused with military force, the revolutions that, across Mediterranean Africa to Turkey, got rid of secular regimes and opened the door to the Muslim Brotherhood and AQ/ISIS. Egypt had a counter coup and arrested Obama's choice, a Muslim Brotherhood scum that used gang rape as a terrorist technique and committed genocide against Christians and heretical Muslims. ( anyone other than his sect ) War on Libya. Sent admittedly scum Lt. Kaddafi to be killed by mob. Scum, yes, but scum that had abandoned his WMD programs and asked to return to mainstream world respectability. Technically an ally. Why? Obama said Hillary and Susan wanted a foreign policy triumph to show how tough Hillary was. ( she was already the Chosen Candidate ) Obama could be lying to pass off the blame, of course, but if he's telling the truth, he's willing to send bombers to kill people just to make Hillary look good. He's willing to let pilots die to support his Party. But he's not willing to order the rescue of an Ambassador, or pay attention, when he has a big campaign fund raising trip to Vegas the next day. He was willing to lie about the Ambassador and send a man to prison to prop up his lies. ( film maker ) Obama declared that Assad in Syria must go. Why? Brutal dictator, sure. Russian ally. Ah! Secular ruler who suppressed Islamic terrorist groups to keep his ( Also Muslim ) tribe in power. The hundreds of thousands of Syrian civilians dead, 65 million refugees flooding Europe, arming ISIS and refusing to actively fight them ( while claiming to. After all, he sent our fighter planes and pilots to drop leaflets. Let's risk a hundred million dollars in jet and American lives for a leaflet drop in SAM infested territory for???? ) etc. Etc. I'll point out that in WW2, the RAF did leaflet drops on Germany. Result was dead RAF crews and free toilet paper for Germans. And all the above is one campaign of the Obama administration. A refugee flood to Europe, rape so common from refugees that the governments pretend it's not happening, no go zones where police fear to go, and only in groups so when the police cars are set on fire they have extra transport to run away. Just one campaign. If I was going in chronological order complaining about Barry's actions, I'd start with one of his Day One items, removing funding for poor black children in Washington D.C. to go to expensive private schools, like Obama used for his kids. See the documentary Waiting For "Superman". If George Bush the Younger had done that, he'd have been lynched. I'd bring rope. Throughout the Obama administration his choices were for betrayal of allies and pandering to the enemies of western civilization. If you read his biographies you'd understand why. I do have to give Barry props for ending DADT. Go you! Bill Clinton's Don't Ask Don't Tell program demanded that gays & lesbians in the military hide from persecution, dishonestly, while not stopping the witch hunts to catch them. Morally indefensible insanity. But looked at from Bill's viewpoint? Wouldn't it be great if Hillary couldn't ask me if I'm cheating? So one that subject, I agree with and am thankful to, Obama. I have many friends who suffered in the service under the Clinton Lie policy. Forbidden to openly love under penalty of prison and end of career, combat veterans....... Your MOS doesn't matter when your convoy is pinned down, you are returning fire, teammates dead from roadside bombs, and you're bleeding from shattered glass. Just a female truck driver in a non combatant status? Not when you're running low on magazines and crawl under fire to apply dressings to other wounded. Thus I'm not 100% anti Barry. He did help some very special friends. | ||
| Reindog |
I think I was in that car on 112 when Professor Canfield drove by in his Ford Focus. | ||
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| Blake |
Frankly I don't care if Obama is a nice guy. He seems to be nice enough, plays basketball with buddies, was a member of the notorious "Choom Gang" in high school. Michele seems nice enough too. Looks like a strong enough American family with their two girls. My only complaint is with his ideology, policies, how he represents the country, and his honesty on the job. In those areas, not much to approve of. The effect has been predictable. A significant number of Americans who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 finally saw the light and voted for Trump in 2016. "The Carter Effect"? It really is heartbreaking though. I wanted our first at least part black president to be a successful uniter and uplifter, who was popular with all Americans. What a difference it would have made. It's why any person of color running for the Presidency as a Republican will be attacked no-holds-barred by the Left. See Herman Cain. See how Col. Allen West. See Ben Carson. I hope Dr. Carson Runs again, say in 2024. He is a very quick study. Mia Love is another conservative to keep an eye on. Either, if successful would be a very serious threat to destroying the Democrat Left. | ||
| Blake |
EButch, Don't be a biggot. I'm referring to memes that offer up denigrating false depictions of the Obamas using ghetto talk, or that focus on appearance or dress. That kind of mean-spirited personal attack only affirms what the Left says conservatives are all about. Be better than the leftists, not like them. The photo of Michele's sandals? Open on the outboard side, closed inboard, with a toe loop to hold them in place, kinda like the single sided swingarm version of women's sandals. And her feet may be relatively large, but she is in the foreground of the photo relative to Barry, so take that into account. The most effective approach to enemies in politics is to stand on honest presentation of facts and to love them as fellow humans bearing God's image. Or take the David Horowitz approach and speak cold hard blunt truth. LOL. That man is something else! | ||
| Toro |
If "honesty on the job" is important to you Blake, you must be quite disturbed by the sitting President. | ||
| Crusty |
Toro; the Donald sure ain't perfect, but he's miles better than the corrupt career politician who was running against him. | ||
| Court |
>>>That kind of mean-spirited personal attack only affirms what the Left says conservatives are all about. I absolutely agree. Each one of the "cheap shots" detracts from the real problems. I disagree vehemently with both Barack and Michelle Obama on about everything. But, I had the pleasure of giving a Commencement Address at which she delivered a speech prior to mine. While her message was inconsistent with my personal views . . . she is dangerously smart and an excellent public speaker. I learned a lot from her. >>>>If "honesty on the job" is important to you Blake, you must be quite disturbed by the sitting President. Honesty, particularly in the office of the President of the United States of America, is very important to me. I watched Obama lie, flagrantly and with impunity, to the American people. I am not a big fan of Trump but I have yet to have anyone offer up an facts citing any lie. It appears, based simply on facts, that he has set about doing precisely what he promised, and was elected, to do. I think he's a buffoon personally. But, I think he'd exposing ingrained corruption and effectively on the way to fixing a system that was criminally broken. I suppose if you have Lois Lerner coming after you, at the direction of the Obama White House, to "teach you a lesson", you may view things differently. | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm no Donald fan. But when I complain to my buddy he mocks me. After all, I did say "anyone but Hillary", so I "won". I feel no need to defend Donald. But the reason he won, was all about the dishonesty of his opponent and the media. Over a year of Trump Sound Bites instead of honest reporting. A black republican presidential candidate? Ridicule and gotcha questions. How critical to economic policy is Egyptology? The only bumper magnet I have from the 2016 campaign is Ben's. It was a gift, & stays on my fridge as a reminder. I'm more a Condi Rice fan. I'd love her to run. | ||
| Aesquire |
Ditto on the insulting pictures. If you can't slam a guy with the truth you are wrong in slamming him. Don't make me defend Obama. I will, but it's distasteful. Michelle? The kids are off limits. The college age one is kicking her heels with smoking and partying, & is a great example why I think bringing children into the White House is morally irresponsible. Barry and Donald appear to put ambition ahead of family. Not good. But Michelle? If not for her anti American attitude and self righteousness, I'd call her off limits. Even so, honest criticism is fair. Picking on feet or butts or hair? Unfair. If the foot thing is supposed to be about Michelle's alleged gender? Wait for the tell all books. They may not come out until Barry's in jail. In any event it's rude to pick on Barry's sexual preferences. It is fair to point out I never heard of him golfing with a female. He had women in positions of power. Perhaps a golf thing misogyny? Or just his way to have sex with men secretly? President's time is very public and private time hard to get. | ||
| Sifo |
If "honesty on the job" is important to you Blake, you must be quite disturbed by the sitting President. Toro, perhaps you could get a better response if you were to give some example of Trump's dishonesty. I'm unaware of him pushing any major lies on the people, such as "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". IMO, Trump is a breath of fresh air on the honesty front when compared to pretty much all politicians. Back on topic though, last Sunday I was talking to the IT manager of our local hospital. I've known him for many years, but haven't had a chance to just sit and talk like that with him since we moved to Michigan a year and a half ago. Part of that conversation, as is typical, turned to work. He said they are still ripping their hair out trying to get in compliance with all of the regulations from BOcare. This wasn't a political discussion, just some old friends catching up with what's going on in their lives. This is part of the lie about the "Affordable Care Act". So much of it had nothing to do with the care, and does anything but making it more affordable. Last fall I had a similar conversation with someone who handles insurance and compliance for a small dental business. This whole ACA is one of the biggest lies ever told to the American people. It's a lie that's still being told. | ||
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| Toro |
Hey Sifo. What's a Sifo? ok, I'll play but if you had just used Google you probably could have answered your own question. Some Trump Lies So Far... JAN. 21, 2017.“I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) JAN. 21, 2017.“A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) JAN. 23, 2017.“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) JAN. 25, 2017.“Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) JAN. 25, 2017.“Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) JAN. 25, 2017.“You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) JAN. 25, 2017.“So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) JAN. 26, 2017.“We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.) JAN. 26, 2017.“I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.) JAN. 28, 2017.“The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.) JAN. 29, 2017.“The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.) JAN. 30, 2017.“Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) FEB. 3, 2017.“Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) FEB. 6, 2017.“It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.” (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.) FEB. 6, 2017.“And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.) FEB. 7, 2017.“And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.) FEB. 9, 2017.“Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.) FEB. 9, 2017.“Sen. Richard Blumenthal...now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?” (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.) FEB. 10, 2017.“I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.) FEB. 12, 2017.“Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.) FEB. 16, 2017.“We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.) FEB. 16, 2017.“Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.) FEB. 16, 2017.“When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.) FEB. 16, 2017.“We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.) FEB. 16, 2017.“They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.) FEB. 18, 2017.“You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?” (Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) FEB. 24, 2017.“By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.) FEB. 24, 2017.“ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.) FEB. 24, 2017.“Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.) FEB. 27, 2017.“Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.” (Many fewer pulled out.) FEB. 28, 2017.“The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.” (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.) FEB. 28, 2017.“We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials.” (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.) MARCH 3, 2017.“It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.” (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.) MARCH 4, 2017.“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!” (There's no evidence of a wiretap.) MARCH 7, 2017.“122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.) MARCH 17, 2017.“I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.” (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.) MARCH 22, 2017.“I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems.” (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.) MARCH 22, 2017.“NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.” (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.) MARCH 31, 2017.“We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone.” (These investments were already planned.) APRIL 11, 2017.“I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.” (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.) APRIL 12, 2017.“You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.” (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.) APRIL 12, 2017.“The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.” (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.) APRIL 12, 2017.“Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.” (The campaign was expected to take months.) APRIL 16, 2017.“Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!” (There's no evidence of paid protesters.) APRIL 18, 2017.“The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’ I haven’t changed my stance.” (He did.) APRIL 21, 2017.“When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.” (He criticized it as early as 2010.) APRIL 27, 2017.“I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.” (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.) APRIL 28, 2017.“The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion trade deficit with Canada.” (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.) APRIL 28, 2017.“She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.” (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.) APRIL 29, 2017.“As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.” (China stopped years ago.) APRIL 29, 2017.“We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.” (The deal was struck in 2014.) MAY 1, 2017.“Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.” (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.) MAY 4, 2017.“Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.” (Polls show most Americans do care.) MAY 5, 2017.“We pay the highest taxes anywhere in the world.” (We're not.) MAY 8, 2017.“But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.” (Colbert's Late Show debut had nearly two million more viewers.) MAY 8, 2017.“Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.” (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.) MAY 12, 2017.“Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.” (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.) MAY 26, 2017.“Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs.” (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.) JUNE 1, 2017.“China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.” (The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.) JUNE 4, 2017.“At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’” (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.) JUNE 5, 2017.“The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.” (Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.) JUNE 21, 2017.“They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.” (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.) JUNE 21, 2017.“You have a gang called MS-13. ... We are moving them out of the country by the thousands, by the thousands.” (The real number of gang members deported is smaller.) JUNE 21, 2017.“Your insurance companies have all fled the state of Iowa.” (They haven't) JUNE 21, 2017.“If [farmers] have a puddle in the middle of their field ... it's considered a lake and you can't touch it. ... We got rid of that one, too, O.K.?” (The Obama environmental rule to limit pollution in the country’s waters explicitly excludes puddles.) JUNE 21, 2017.“Gary Cohn just paid $200 million in tax in order to take this job, by the way.” Cohn sold Goldman Sachs stock worth $220 million.) JUNE 21, 2017.“We’re 5 and 0.” (Republicans have won four special elections this year, while a Democrat won one.) JUNE 21, 2017.“Last week a brand-new coal mine just opened in the state of Pennsylvania, first time in decades, decades.” (Another coal mine opened in 2014.) JUNE 22, 2017.“Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia” (Johnson, who had a different title, didn't say that.) JUNE 23, 2017.“Ratings way down!” (CNN's ratings were at a five-year high at the time.) JUNE 28, 2017.“Democrats purposely misstated Medicaid under new Senate bill — actually goes up.” (Senate bill would have cut the program deeply.) JULY 17, 2017.“We’ve signed more bills — and I’m talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever.” (Clinton, Carter, Truman, and F.D.R. had signed more at the same point.) JULY 19, 2017.“But the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting.” (He reports directly to the attorney general.) JULY 19, 2017.“She did the uranium deal, which is a horrible thing, while she was secretary of state, and got a lot of money.” (There's no evidence Hillary Clinton was actively involved or benefited from the deal.) JULY 24, 2017.“It looks like about 45,000 people. You set a record today.” (Many fewer than 45,000 were there, and the attendance was not a record.) JULY 25, 2017.“We have nearly doubled the number of veterans given approvals to see the doctor of their choice.” (The increase was 26 percent.) JULY 25, 2017.“Since I took office we have cut illegal immigration on our southern border by record numbers. 78 percent.” (The decline began before Trump's inauguration.) JULY 28, 2017.“The previous administration enacted an open-door policy to illegal migrants from Central America. 'Welcome in. Come in, please, please.'” (Obama deported millions.) JULY 28, 2017.“We have trade deficits with almost every country because we had a lot of really bad negotiators making deals with other countries.” (The U.S. has a trade surplus with more than 100 countries.) JULY 31, 2017.“2.6 is a number that nobody thought they’d see for a long period of time.” (Many experts predicted economic growth at least this high.) JULY 31, 2017.“And even the President of Mexico called me – they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.” (Mexico's president says he didn't call Trump.) AUG. 3, 2017.“The Russia story is a total fabrication.” (It's not.) AUG. 15, 2017.“We want products made in the country. Now, I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they're leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside.” (People resigned from Trump's business councils over his Charlottesville comments.) AUG. 22, 2017.“As everybody here remembers, this was the scene of my first rally speech, right?” (Trump's first rally was in New Hampshire.) AUG. 22, 2017.“We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently.” (The U.S. isn't projected to become a net energy exporter until 2026.) AUG. 22, 2017.“Look back there, the live red lights. They're turning those suckers off fast out there. They're turning those lights off fast. Like CNN.” (CNN didn't turn off its cameras.) SEPT. 14, 2017.“Also with the fact that I know in the case of FEMA and the case of Coast Guard, the job you've done in saving people, saving lives. As an example, in Harvey in Texas, we talked – over 16,000 lives.” (The real number is smaller.) SEPT. 14, 2017.“And in Florida you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded.” (They weren't the strongest ever recorded.) SEPT. 22, 2017.“So he started off here, he was in third or fourth, he went to third, second, and now it's like almost pretty even.” (Strange consistently polled first or second in the Alabama Republican primary.) SEPT. 27, 2017.“I’m doing the right thing, and it’s not good for me.” (All available evidence suggests he would benefit.) SEPT. 27, 2017.“To protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer, we are finally ending the crushing, the horrible, the unfair estate tax.” (The real number of small businesses and farmers is vastly smaller.) OCT. 6, 2017.“They also just said that there has been absolutely no collusion. They just said that. Yesterday. Two days ago. Senate. There has been no collusion.” (The Senate didn't say that.) OCT. 10, 2017.“The Failing @nytimes set Liddle' Bob Corker up by recording his conversation. Was made to sound a fool, and that's what I am dealing with!” (Corker asked the Times reporter to record the call; his aides recorded it too.) OCT. 11, 2017.“We have missiles that can knock out a missile in the air. Ninety seven per cent of the time. If you send two of them, it's going to get knocked out.” (The effectiveness rate is about 60 percent.) OCT. 16, 2017.“I hear that Ireland is going to be reducing their corporate rates down to 8 percent from 12.” (Ireland has no plans to cut its tax rate.) OCT. 16, 2017.“If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls.” (They did call families of soldiers killed in action.) OCT. 16, 2017.“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.” (Trump himself has bragged about groping women.) OCT. 18, 2017.“Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof).” (The wife confirmed Representative Frederica Wilson's account.) OCT. 18, 2017.“Nobody has ever heard of a five hitting land.” (Category 5 storms have hit land before.) OCT. 24, 2017.“Under our plan, more than 30 million Americans who own small businesses will get a 40 per cent cut to their top marginal tax rate.” (The real number is estimated to be less than 1 million.) OCT. 27, 2017.“Wacky & totally unhinged Tom Steyer, who has been fighting me and my Make America Great Again agenda from beginning, never wins elections!” (Steyer has financially supported many winning candidates.) NOV. 7, 2017.“When you look at the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation, it's Chicago.” (Several other cities, including New York and Los Angeles, have stronger gun laws.) NOV. 11, 2017.“I'd rather have him – you know, work with him on the Ukraine than standing and arguing about whether or not – because that whole thing was set up by the Democrats.” (There is no evidence that Democrats "set up" Russian interference in the election.) 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| Aesquire |
After the first few I realized that Trump is full of crap. But I knew that. Those are all him being wrong. Not deliberate lies, just full of himself. And several of the ( explanations of why he was wrong) are themselves outright lies. I don't have time, nor the inclination to rebut the bull crap and admit the true parts. Because, in case you hadn't noticed, Donald is full of it. So he's wrong a lot when he gets bombastic. So, source? Or did you search Trump Lies and pick them individually out of the 76 million times he's been full of it? Like I said, Not A Fan. And it's not really fair to just point out all the times other politicians lied, that's not an excuse. Just because Hillary lied to the families of the dead she was responsible for, then called the families liars, ( not so, her comments were published at the time ) doesn't excuse a single thing Donald said that was false. It IS a reason she lost. | ||
| Court |
>>> (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Even I . . just read the first line and knew that was Hillary Clinton. Ya gotta do better. . . . .  | ||
| Blake |
Toro, Sure. I cringe every time our President says something that isn't true. What dishonesty on the part of the president do you reckon we should be most bothered by? I do tend to mostly disregard inaccuracies in casual commentary. It is the willful misrepresentations concerning serious policy and major political events that ought to be of grave concern to all Americans. I'm paraphrasing from memory here, but the type of dishonesty that really concerns me would be the kind akin to the following. "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan." (boldly asserted publicly dozens of times) "Ben Ghazi was a spontaneous popular protest caused by an Internet video." "The Islamic State is not Islamic." "Beau Bergsahl served the country with honor and distinction." "The police acted stupidly." |
