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     Sifo |
The whole "investigation" on Trump by itself is incredibly suspect and damning for the FBI/DOJ. Taken in conjunction with the "investigation" of Hillary's well documented crimes, by virtually the same group of people, you get a much more complete picture. That is a picture of complete corruption at the top levels of our government. Something we have complained about for years under BO, but are finally getting rock solid proof of. | ||
| Aesquire |
Ah, thanks, I was about to look that up. The rant is from Palindromic. Not a horrible handle. Here's another editorial dissecting the 2016 election, and Trump's habit of counter punching, as therapy for the cancer of the Swamp. http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/radioactive-trum p/#more-10938 | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456030/rober t-mueller-investigation-russia-collusion-obstructi on-justice-trump-tower-meeting-emails-hope-hicks A rather less flattering, and optimistic, take on the "Russia" investigation. | ||
| Fb1 |
I read the "memo" and am going to re-read it. But . . .based on a single reading . . . I am not seeing this thing gaining any traction. The so-called "Nunes Memo" was the opening salvo. The "Grassley Memo" is next. Slow and steady, by the book, so the baddies can't wriggle off the hook when the time comes, and so the normies have a chance to fully digest the red pill before the next dosing. We've only just begun. Yep, in the good old days this would all be political theater, and nothing positive would ever come of it. We're operating under a totally different set of ground rules now, however. Case in point: We've railed against Congress for years to "DO SOMETHING!" Well, they're now doing something (Rep. Gosar, on the record, used the "T" word yesterday!). Why do certain members of Congress now seem to have a spine? Because they know President Trump has got their backs. To be clear: they're not doing the bidding of President Trump, they're simply FINALLY doing their jobs, but now without fear of retaliation from the Executive (via the DOJ...or worse...). Remember in P45's SOTU address the other night when the R members of Congress began chanting "USA! USA! USA!" President Trump had just formally lifted the jackboot of tyranny off their collective necks. It was a stirring moment. Watch it again if you get the chance; the R's were, in essence, shouting "We're free! We're free!" P45 has recently issued three rather significant EO's (one of them just moments before his SOTU address; this has gotten virtually zero press...). These EO's, combined, spell out rather clearly what's coming (for some/many, what's already happening) for the black hats. Court, in the old days I'd agree with you 100%: Same old shit sandwich. Those days are over. Praise the Lord. Best, FB | ||
| Hughlysses |
So I watched Scott Adams’ Periscope this morning. He also highly recommended watching lawyer Allen Dershowitz‘s comments. Dershowitz, although a democratic, has been pretty impartial in his evaluations of events since Trump was elected. Dershowitz said the memo is basically hearsay since we don’t have access to the supporting documents and Adams agrees. Dershowitz did say he thought the memo was probable cause for an independent investigation to be warranted. He also said the actual FISA application (redacted as necessary) should be released to the public. Those seem like reasonable viewpoints. One key claim in the memo is that Andrew McCabe testified in front of congress that they wouldn’t have submitted the FISA application if they hadn’t had the Steele dossier. The democrats counter that the dossier was only a part of a larger body of evidence. I think it’s telling that the Democrats are NOT saying “McCabe did NOT say that!” Both the Republican statement (McCabe testified no dossier, no FISA) and the Democratic statement (there was other evidence beside the dossier) could be completely true. The point is if the Republican’s statement about McCabe is true, there’s a big problem with the FISA warrant. | ||
| Hughlysses |
In case you’re interested in what Dershowitz had to say about the memo: (Message edited by Hughlysses on February 03, 2018) | ||
| Court |
Julie: >>>The "meme-oh" is just a fractional part of the intelligence used to obtain the FISA warrants. That doesn't hold water from a logic perspective . . . it's akin to saying "yeah, but my daughter was only one of the people I screwed". The mere fact that F.B.I. and D.O.J personnel used contrived, ill-motivated . . . and, in fact, may have played a role in it (they said that . . . .in their texts, I didn't make it up) is sufficient reason to taint the issuance of a FISA (generally held, at least in theory, to the highest standards) Warrant. The better part of this thing is that they got it . . . they have investigated the dickens out of Trump and any and every one that they can find associated with him and the best, to date, they have come up with is finding that the Clinton campaign funded Fusion GPS in generating the false narrative they hoped to rely on. So far . . any and every shred of anything with "Trump" and "Russians" contained therein . . . is the product of a fiction novel penned by Fusion GPS and funded by some rouge Clinton camp folks. Don't feel bad . . . .even Derek Jeter sometimes stepped up to the plate and struck out. It was just your turn to strike out. Court | ||
| Court |
Julie: As you know I am a University Professor . . . the one thing that will get you tossed out on your ass, from either Harvard, Yale or Columbia . . . is plaugaurizing, STEALING, the work of another. Can you explain this . . . . FROM REDDIT:
WHAT YOUR WROTE WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION AND TOOK CREDIT FOR . . .
Julie . . . . do you work for Fusion GPS or are you just dishonest? Pretty much requires nothing more than a one word answer. Frankly . . . you got your tit in the wringer here dear. | ||
| Buellerxt |
I received the following email yesterday from a person very close to me, a very intelligent person, who worked for the Federal Government in D.C. for an entire career. We were corresponding about the memo release, etc. It is only one opinion/observation but . . . The email: The Federal Agencies are staffed with overwhelmingly leftist people who are contemptuous of conservatives. They often use their jobs to actively harm conservative people and organizations. It doesn't matter whether its the IRS, FBI, DOJ, CEC, EPA or any of the others. They all have police forces and SWAT teams and an arrogant attitude. The Federal Workforce resembles what the Russians called the "New Class" before the fall of the Soviet Union. They are a privileged, secretive, governing class that does what they can get away with. Conservatives are ignorant when they think the FBI is impartial. They still think most FBI people are sympathetic and it is only a few bad apples at the top that are at fault. The bad apples are fish swimming in a warm and friendly sea. What the country needs is a purge to get rid of the ones at the top. The others will then fall in line. I doubt that will happen. (Message edited by buellerxt on February 03, 2018) (Message edited by buellerxt on February 03, 2018) | ||
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| Blake |
I don't see how this single fraudulently obtained warrant is necessarily justification for shutting down the Mueller investigation. It appears criminal, but it was to my knowledge not the primary impetus for the Mueller investigation. I thought that had to do with Flynn lying, and the Trump campaign folks including DJT Jr. meeting with some Russians. Let's keep it in perspective. The Mueller investigation should be shut down because it's found zero evidence of any criminal activity. | ||
| Toro |
I've been s Buell rider for a couple years and I've been following this website for about a year. This is my first time posting. I believe Mr. Mueller is an honourable man with the best of intentions for this great country. Shouldn't Mr. Mueller be the one who says when the investigation should be over. To date we have yet to hear anything from Mr. Mueller about his investigation. When the man reaches the end of his investigation I'm sure the appropriate justice will come forward. Patience is a virtue. God's will be done. | ||
| Rick_a |
That did seem an odd departure from Julie's usual frothing childish partially coherent half unhinged ramblings. Not surprised. Quite disingenuous and unscrupulous. Many of the progressive devotees seem to share such traits with their political leaders and media pundits. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/from-conspiracy- theories-to-conspiracies/#more-10929 But we have heard from Mr. Mueller. Contradictory things and illegal leaks from an investigation that may have endangered intelligence assets, even directly led to the deaths of people on two hemispheres. My default settings on police are that they are the thin blue line between the honest citizens and the barbarians who prey upon them. Sure, I am irritated when I get an expired inspection ticket, but not at the police, at my procrastination or willful blindness that I let a reasonable safety requirement slide. In the Mueller case, I can't help but notice when an agent of the Justice system staffs his investigation 100% with people who are political enemies of the person investigated and in at least one case had family that received more cash than most make in three years from the opposition candidate for her political campaign. Staff that worked diligently to stop an investigation into that opposition candidate, & wrote about their fears that to actually do their jobs would subject them to unspecified revenge from that candidate, who is widely known as a vindictive person who has left a trail of wrecked careers and dead bodies, alleged suicides etc. In her wake. So while I really want to know if there is treasonous contact between ANY politicians and our avowed enemies, the actions of the Prosecutor do not fill me with confidence that the truth will come out. Especially when his staff apparently worked very hard to prevent the truth from coming out about Donald's opposition. But I could be wrong about that. What I'm certain of is Mueller has a staff that leaks political and intelligence information in violation of multiple laws, & that is his responsibility. There is zero trust earned here. And much to make a reasonable person distrust. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Sometimes the Onion gets it right: https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican -memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681 | ||
| Julie |
Lol Court you didn't even read the "meme-oh" apparently. Carter Page has been under the FBI's watch since 2013 and the "meme-oh" even states that this 2016 iteration of the FISA application wasn't the first for Carter Page. Multiple members of the Trump election organization and administration, including his former National Security Advisor, have already pleaded guilty and are working with the feds. http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-le tter/ oh, and as far as posting on other sites - this is the internet and it's not impossible for a person to make postings on multiple sites so, maybe it's you that has your flaccid meat in the wringer mr. university professor (ALL CAPS TO MAKE YOU MORE IMPORTANT!!). in addition, plaugaurizing isn't a word mr. university professor. don't you know that university professors are regarded as lying lieberals by the redcap conservative trumpsters?? you probably shouldn't claim that as some sort of achievement around these parts. (Message edited by julie on February 04, 2018) | ||
| Aesquire |
It is polite, and often a big boost to your viewpoint to post the source of quotes. It also lets you cut & paste a smaller quote, one making your point quickly, & inviting others to read more. All aspects of better communication and more effective persuasion. There's also the Intellectual property rights issue. Posting quotes with references are ok, especially if you don't copy the whole article. Pretending, or allowing others to think the quote is your own writing is unethical. ( the property rights on stuff like boat plans is different and not relevant here ) Criminal? Not in this context. In a professional or collegiate setting? An expensive habit. Ruinous. On topic, this Page fellow is one reason to not make the memo other than it is. The memo isn't a get out of jail free card. It's a criminal conspiracy true story. Not the same at all. As I mentioned before this was on a tv show. Ms. Maddow did her usual Art Bell style conspiracy tale about Page and the alleged lies of the Trump staff. Those lies if as alleged open staffers to persecution by the limitless witch hunt mode of the Special Prosecutor investigation. Scooter Libby was in no way responsible for outing a CIA agent, & the Prosecutor knew who was in fact guilty. But only Scooter did time. For changing his story, basically. It's the inquisition intimidation threat that is pointed at Trump. Everyone now knows the "Russian Collusion" story about Trump is baseless. The memo quotes the Prosecutor's staff, they know there's no Trump-Russian collusion. Some of them involved in the Clinton investigation know there was Clinton-Russian collusion. So, false pretenses for the one FISA warrant, admissions that no crime has been detected, much less proven, don't change the investigation. There will be staffers prosecuted. For denying Page was on the team if nothing else. More than a year of hostile press questions, and far from perfect staff. You are going to get contradicted statements. Those are what it's all about now. You can't even defend their statements. Incompetent or poor communication, they are out there. There's a reason the Trump staff has high turnover. They keep wanting their slice of fame and love to talk to fawning reporters. Getting that good attention is addictive. Yes, if this was Obama, the press wouldn't report it and would join in the cover up by accusing the Becks and Hannities who would report it of....... anything. But this is Trump and he's hated by both Party's leaders and the press. | ||
| Aesquire |
Btw. Rachel Maddow is pretty good at the Art Bell drag out a story technique. I may not have the originator of the technique correct. It could be centuries old. Art Bell did a midnight radio show on conspiracy stuff. Aliens, remote viewing, whatever. He could drag a story out for hours that was only seconds long. "Space aliens beamed me up then probed me. Then put me back in my car by the side of the lonely country road. " That's the guest. That's his whole story. ( they skip the tequila part ) Then the host drags it out for three hours. With leading questions. If there's no guest? A newspaper report can be teased out for more than an hour. This is Rachel's shtick. She's good at it. Every show is repetitive propaganda pounding. Pity she's not honest & plays for the other side. | ||
| Ducbsa |
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| Ducbsa |
" they are the thin blue line between the honest citizens and the barbarians who prey upon them." A recent episode in the trial of that gymnastics doctor in Michigan shows that, only with a small role reversal. A dad of one of his victims charged the guy in court, with apparent intent to harm him and three deputies tackled the dad. http://wtvr.com/2018/02/02/dad-randall-margraves-t ries-to-attack-larry-nassar-court-video/ I had two thoughts: - The cops did their duty and reacted instantly to protect that monster Nassar. - They treated a white man the same as they treat a minority youth who is a threat. (yes, there have been too many cases of actual brutality, but a significant number of exonerations.) | ||
| Hughlysses |
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| Rick_a |
Julie, in with the usual "your view point is invalid as I found a misspelling" defense.  Lying "lieberals" [sic] are lying "lieberals" [sic]. That a majority of university professors are flaming neo-Marxists is besides the point. | ||
| Tootal |
Pelosium: A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium (symbol PU). Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark particles called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Pelosium's mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass. When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates CNNadnausium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Pretty funny: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/03 /students-hate-quotes-from-trumps-state-of-the-uni on-until-realizing-they-are-obamas/ To be honest, the clips in the video were "cherry-picked" and there surely were some youths who were on the ball. On the other hand, all the Dem pols have probably said sensible things about illegal immigration. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/01/horrib le_and_disgusting_democrats_then_and_now.html | ||
| Sifo |
Julies C&P from Reddit was so out of ordinary for her that I was searching for it's origin after only reading the first few lines. Could she have posted it at Reddit? Who knows. Other than being an un-credited C&P, it's unlike anything else she's ever posted here. Decide for yourselves. Sounds like I'm not the only one who felt it wasn't her work when they first saw it. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/th e_constitutional_crisis_the_fourth_estate_birthed. html Julie's own work? Never occurred to me. Word choice, spelling, the lack of ad hominem attacks. I will assume that after two posts that we corrected her no doubt innocent oversight about posting sources, that Julie will cheerfully post her source from now on. Since I pointed out how that aids one's arguments and is the ethical thing to do.  | ||
| Ducbsa |
Will she plagiarize from this next? https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican -memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681 | ||
| Pwnzor |
Au contraire... (s)he has posted similar things in the past, and been similarly called out just like this. Any time you see more than one coherent statement from him/her, you can bet it's been lifted from somewhere. | ||
| Sifo |
Donald is walking out of the White House and heading toward his limo, when a possible assassin steps forward and aims a gun. A secret service agent, new on the job, shouts “Mickey Mouse!” This startles the would be assassin and he is captured. Later, the secret service agent’s supervisor takes him aside and asks, “What in the hell made you shout Mickey Mouse?” Blushing, the agent replies, “I got nervous. I meant to shout “Donald duck!” | ||
| Julie |
Lol Cadet BoneSpurs is done Purple Heart Meritorious Service Medal Air Medal Army Commendation Medal with Oak leaf cluster National Defense Service Medal Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal with four Oak leaf clusters Army Service Ribbon Combat Action Badge Senior Army Aviator Badge -Tammy Duckworth's Military Service Honors from the Iraq War Avoided Chlamydia -Cadet BoneSpurs Draft Dodger Donald Trump's Military Service Honors from his "Personal Vietnam" (Message edited by julie on February 06, 2018) |
