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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, but killing Hitler would be more satisfying.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a child? No.

I saw a video of a German fellow who was at the beer hall one night when Hitler and his young Nazis were getting organized. He said he had a pistol in his pocket, and if he'd only known, he could have walked through a door and prevented WW2. The lost opportunity haunts him to this day.

I prefer "The Goliath Stone"'s idea. An adult, a criminal, and a thoroughly unpleasant fellow, Lenin was. Prevent WW2, the Soviet Union, hundreds of millions dead, Red China never happens, countless third world countries never have Soviet funded revolutions, South America isn't the mess it is today, Liberation Theology never takes root in the Church and the Current Pope wouldn't be an ardent Communist bent on the destruction of western civilization. The Green movement, without Soviet influence urges people to clean up their messes, but doesn't strive to destroy industrial wealth.

The list is nearly endless.

Hitler would never have become a leader of a Socialist Germany, since there wouldn't be a Fortress of lies in Moscow to spread the word of the Worker's Paradise.

You could console yourself that Hitler had a quiet life as a second rate used car salesman, married to a nice Jewish girl who would henpeck him to drink and an early grave. : ) Far better than strangling an innocent child.

I suppose there are greater inflection points where a small push would do great things. Most of the big ones in the ancient days would be hard to accomplish without being burned as a witch.

Or... Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Willia m_Proxmire The short story is much more entertaining than the wiki entry.
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Julie
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Blake Rudy said: Its not improbable that the guy panicked. It's not so obvious like taking up a sniper post and shooting cops (Dallas) or congressmen and their staff at a baseball park. I didn't see the licensed protesters starting fires or vandalising storefronts.




Wow. You, Blake Rudy, and everyone that supports this website, have become NAZI sympathizers. This used to be a site for Buell enthusiasts. Now it is just a dark corner of the Internet dedicated to Nazis and Nazi sympathizers.

You Nazis can gloat all you want because you have the support of Donald Trump but it won't last long. We, the TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS, defeated you scumbag Nazis before, and we'll beat you again. NAZI SCUM BLAKE RUDY COURT CANFIELD NAZI SCUM!!
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04xl1200c
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, isn't it nice that Julie has returned to bash everyone on the site! Welcome back.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good to hear she's now against Socialists.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/eboni-k-williams-d eath-threats-trump-fox-news-1202530309/

Partisan zeal be Damned! This is criminal.

We must protect the First Amendment. Popular speech need no protection, dissent does.

Death threats against popular figures like this writer or the President deserve.... What?

TO be clear, I'm talking about the many calls to violence and murder from Anyone about Anyone. There are laws that make threats against the President criminal above and beyond every citizen's protections. I have no problem with this. The President has always been a target for hate and murder just by the nature of the Job.

These people are Flaming idiots and vile children. You want to somehow slap sense into them, a natural reaction to hateful creatures. But you can't. I can't even say they should be prosecuted.

For one thing they will always say they were joking, or blowing off steam, and would never mean such a horrible thing. And there's the whole Free Speech Ideal.

Smarter men than I have considered this, and if you know the answer, by all means tell us.

I am going to condemn them for their hatred and actions.

They give Mobs a bad name.

And the leaders, that exploit the hate for power are truly evil in any morality. No mortal punishment is adequate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, we're all agreed that if the automotive manslaughter was, in fact, premeditated random murder, that the murderer should be prosecuted and penalized to the max, right?

Just Crossing the 'T's for the silly gits who think speculating about a crime makes you a criminal.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ignorant clowns

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16 /protesters-atlanta-tear-peace-monument-mistaking- confederate-symbol/
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Court
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Julie:

How do you feel about John Kennedy sneaking over 3 dozen women into The White House and sexually abusing them?

Your answer should clear up some confusion.

Court
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ms. Thompson, you do realize that you, just by visiting BadWeB, are indeed supporting this site.
Your support has been noted,
and
Thank you for your support.

Please come again
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WaPoo sanctions violence:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19823/rubicon-wapo-o p-ed-openly-calls-political-violence-john-nolte#
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of supporting this site; where's Alf?
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps it's time for the right to ignore the laws. I propose we start by lynching some abortion docs.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4Chan Strikes Back Against AntiFa With Operation Lenin Down

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/a_stor y_about_deleting_history.html

No. I disagree. That's illegal and immoral.

We should perhaps consider being honest. The protesters against so much, and many politicians have called for violence against Nazis and racist groups, the Klan specifically.

While I was raised in a free nation with free speech, it's hard to disagree with this jihad against evil.

Should we support violence against Socialists, the Klan, and their parent organizations?

Should we demand action against all Klan affiliated groups?

Should we have those groups, obviously evil, outlawed?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You Nazis can gloat all you want because you have the support of Donald Trump but it won't last long. We, the TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS, defeated you scumbag Nazis before, and we'll beat you again. NAZI SCUM BLAKE RUDY COURT CANFIELD NAZI SCUM!!"

It's as if she didn't read any of the posts, just came over, vomited, and left.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/like_t heir_monuments_the_democratic_party_must_be_disman tled.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still say it's promising that she now hates Socialists.
It might take a few years, or a few days of actual dialogue, to get her to come around to a good liberal western civilization viewpoint. I welcome her to participate in polite discussion of the history and ideology of the socialists she now dislikes.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only issue with demanding action against all hate groups is, mis-identification. The MSM is touting Trump as a nazi racist. Who decides who's actually "evil"?

Google?
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Mtnmason
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been away and missed some of this earlier in the week.

However, Jefferson Davis is not on my gift list. Leader of the Confederacy, founding member of the Klu Klux Klan, and, hard core Democrat, before, and after the Civil war.

The KKK was actually founded by one Nathan Bedford Forrest. Incidentally, he disavowed the group in his old age once they became violent towards innocent persons. The original intent of the Klan was to protect the life and property of impoverished white southerners from the post-war atrocities doled out by the Feds during Reconstruction. If you are not familiar with the minutia regarding that dark period, I can suggest some literature. The South paid dearly for their loss and it still does to this day.

Am I a KKK apologist? Not at all. Simply pointing out that the group devolved into something that it was never intended to be. Had Lee and Jackson been alive at the turn of the century, they would've had every member of the KKK HANGED!!! Had a KKK member been killed in C-ville last weekend, it's doubtful that I would care at all.

While I can admire the military ability of Robert E. Lee, just as I can admire the same in Erwin Rommel, or even Georgy Zhukov, I'm not a personal fan of any of them.

I'm confident that you do not know very much at all about R.E. Lee given that you chose to put his name in the same sentence as a (real) Nazi and a (real) Communist.

Lee was against slavery (do your research and read HIS words) and was an opponent of secession. He was offered the position of commander of Federal forces by Winfield Scott prior to deciding to defend his home state which he ultimately felt more allegiance towards than the US gov.

Lee's greatest legacy was the way he lived his life in the post-war years. He single-handedly did more to reunite a still divided nation than any other individual of the time. Lee was the embodiment of personal honor and Christian generosity. He was beloved by Americans in the North and South both before and after the war. Any attempt to besmirch his name due to the fact that he lead the Army of Northern Virginia from 1862-65 points to nothing but sheer ignorance of the man, his words and his deeds.
(Aesquire, I agree with a good deal of what you post here but please do educate yourself about him. It is wonderful reading.)

The Confederate leader whom I admire the most was the socially peculiar Thomas J. Jackson. His tactics are still studied by infantry leaders the world over.

Jackson taught a Sunday school class for both freed and enslaved blacks in the Lexington area prior to the war. At the time, it was illegal in the Commonwealth to educate blacks whether religious or otherwise. Jackson was often approached by members of the community over concern of his "unlawful" Sunday school. He would reply that his class would end once he was jailed for leading it. When anyone from Lexington paid him a visit while campaigning during the war, his first question for them would always be, "How is my Sunday school class". For further reference, please read Graham Williams's "Stonewall Jackson: The Black Man's Friend".


Truth is such a dagger to most Leftist narratives. Unfortunately it has not mattered to them in quite some time.

[I will say no more here about "The Failed Southern Revolution" but would gladly discuss it in a separate thread]
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lee was a very good General who fought for an enemy of the U.S.

Note that Zhukov fought for a then ally.

Not going to argue Lee was an evil man. Didn't bother to defend him is all. As a General I rate him far above Zhukov and equal to Rommel, at least. A couple of other generals of the day were darn good. My short list includes Belisarius and Nelson, so Lee is in good company.

But you've right. No need to rehash the War of Northern Aggression.

But equally, those trying to erase that history do so for malicious reasons. The folk that accuse Republicans of slavery and racism who are loyal minions of the Jim Crow/Klan Party.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess it's easy to erase history when you have zero understanding of history. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Abraham Lincoln monument torched in Chicago

A double facepalm doesn't begin to cover this.
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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fools.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stalin's term was "Useful Idiots".
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So there is video showing this guys car getting hit with a bat BEFORE running people over. Like it or not, his defense of fleeing from violence has just been sealed. The narrative of running over peaceful protesters has been smashed.

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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, we're all agreed that if the automotive manslaughter was, in fact, premeditated random murder, that the murderer should be prosecuted and penalized to the max, right?

This isn't a rhetorical question, as such. If I don't hear any objections, I will assume it's the unanimous opinion of this web site.

I was not sarcastic. Sarcastic would be if I suggested that if convicted, he be given to Julie to re-educate. I did not make that bad joke at that time. ( and now I have, to signal how virtuous I am... I've been watching CNN ) ; )
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Btw, we're all agreed that if the automotive manslaughter was, in fact, premeditated random murder, that the murderer should be prosecuted and penalized to the max, right?

This isn't a rhetorical question, as such. If I don't hear any objections, I will assume it's the unanimous opinion of this web site.


Agreed. But then I just posted a video of his car being hit with a bat just before he rammed the crowd. His defense for panicked fleeing has been sealed. At least as long as he listens to his lawyer and keeps his mouth shut.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps. If they find a tweet or message from before the manslaughter, saying "I'm a going to go kill someone" then that will be it.

Which means that there's a huge number of useful idiots calling for violence, that if caught doing any violence, have sealed their own prosecution.

Agreed
Thank you for the confirmation. I'm sure I didn't need to ask, but just wanted to be on record, after being falsely accused of being a nazi. I see no need to contest such a contemptible lie.

I expect Badwebbers to keep an open mind and speculate on alleged assaults like in Virginia or that video of the moto-mob and the tourists in NYC. Benefit of the doubt is a sound, and kind, principle. Maybe we can teach that to Julie when she comes back out from under her covers.
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Genesisclimber
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OMG you idiots are still talking about all this. Democrats and Republicans switched ideology in the 1950's - and neither party are terrorists - facts - now can you all please shut the up about all this?
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Confused about the origins of things like socialism, fascism, communism, Nazis, etc.? Dinesh D'Souza has a new book out examining exactly that. Here's a great video with Bill Whittle discussing these matters with Dinesh. Backs up some of what has been said here about Robert E. Lee also.

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