| Author | Message | ||
     Court |
Help me out . . . . can someone explain to me how getting shot makes you a "hero"? I THINK it makes you a victim . . I'm unconvinced about "hero". | ||
| Hootowl |
I think they're talking about the cops...I hope they're talking about the cops. | ||
| Court |
>>>I think they're talking about the cops...I hope they're talking about the cops. That appears correct and that makes sense. I just heard a glowing tribute to the 2 Law Enforcement Officers who were present. The logic, which makes sense, is that the Congressmen assembled on the field were essentially "in a cage" as a result of the chain link fence surrounding the ball field. Speculation, which I'd agree with, is that absent those officers it would have been a massacre. Kudos to those officers. | ||
| Hootowl |
As have I. Read that at least one of them was tending to the wounded, when he himself had been shot. | ||
| Aesquire |
You can bet half your paycheck that an attack from a supporter of the Socialist Democrat candidate with what I bet you are illegally possessed weapons ( in the District ) will lead to more calls to disarm the citizens of The Republic. By the most Socialist members. In effect, we shoot you. Give up your guns. Now opening a pool for the date of American Khristallnacht. ( no cash, just bragging rights ) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/14 /terry-mcauliffe-alexandria-shooting-proves-we-hav e-too-many-guns-on-the-street/ Darn. No one bet me. | ||
| Court |
He really is an idiot. But, I am open minded.
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| Aesquire |
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article156092134.htm l Rachel maddox his favorite show. My Mom's too. I'd better tell the police. Court. 1. No. ( Russian mobsters have guns. Japanese mobsters have guns. The list is endless. ) 2. nope. Heck, one well trained Roman soldier could have stopped him with a sling. (reminds me... go practice ) | ||
| Gowindward |
This was a "progressive" terrorist attack. He tried to advance their cause by his actions. So glad I live in a Pro 2nd amendment state. Glad I can carry to protect not harm. Makes me think even more about that "truck" gun. And not just a ccw. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Curious how silent comrade Bernie will be about this. Feelin' the Bern yet, putz? | ||
| H0gwash |
Fox new reports Bernie sanders said “I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. Real change can only come about through nonviolent action, and anything else runs against our most deeply held American values.” | ||
| Hootowl |
Well, sure. What else would he say? That doesn't erase years of riling up the mentally irregular masses. This is the inevitable result of his core political beliefs. | ||
| H0gwash |
This is the inevitable result of his core political beliefs. Your opinion. That knife cuts both ways of the political spectrum. | ||
| Hootowl |
Respectfully, that's your opinion. Socialism always ends badly...that's not an opinion. Bernine and his supporters promote an authoritarian form of government. Killing those with whom you disagree is part and parcel of that ideology. | ||
| H0gwash |
You make it sound like there are no socialisms left. | ||
| Hootowl |
There are some left, and more clamoring to experience the same fate. Venezuela and Argentina come to mind. We warned them. They believed they, despite all evidence to the contrary, could make it work. They were wrong. Why any American, blessed with the prosperity, even among the 'poor'* of capitalism would want to embrace socialism is quite beyond me. * There really are very few poor people in America. Relatively poor, yes, but they all have cars and flat screen televisions. You want to see poor, visit Asia. edit: typo on "same". (Message edited by hootowl on June 15, 2017) | ||
| H0gwash |
I agree with you that the US is probably the most comfortable place to be poor. I disagree with your implication that even when Bernie says that violence of any kind is unacceptable and unAmerican that he actually he wants to kill all non-socialists. | ||
| Aesquire |
Bernie want to kill people? Nah. He'd put folk in prison, maybe. But if he was Czar, he might not do mass grave stuff for a year or so. ( Most of the mass murders in history didn't start out that way. A few years as God-King and they change. ) If he never becomes our ruler? He'd never kill anyone. Obama, for all the folk he got killed, ( and are still getting killed, decisions go on making dead people after you retire ) and his "red line" and "gotta go" talk, I doubt really wanted to kill people. His political mentor, OTOH did like to kill people. Wishes he'd killed more. Venezuela? Seen any news out of there? It's less than 100 people killed by the police admitted to, in public, during protests, and I don't know if they are counting the armed militia's murdered. Potentially one of the richest countries in the area, and the Army stole all the incoming food shipments and are selling what they don't take for what the starving market will bear. It's not completely inevitable that a socialist country send it's people to death camps, Sweden hasn't yet. Or just imprison and murder political rivals. You sure can name a bunch of places where they have, and are, today. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Most effective gun control = keep them from lefties! It would have saved Gabbie Giffords, too. This guy had been living in his van near the site since March. I wonder if Alexandria has an ordinance against that and if the cops had ever "interviewed" him previously. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.vdare.com/posts/amren-com-hate-map-of-r eal-hate-crimes-attacking-trump-supporters I don't vouch for this. Use salt. ( always use salt ) | ||
| Hootowl |
"I disagree with your implication that even when Bernie says that violence of any kind is unacceptable and unAmerican that he actually he wants to kill all non-socialists." I disagree with that too. Good thing I never implied such a thing. Perhaps you inferred it from "Bernine and his supporters promote an authoritarian form of government. Killing those with whom you disagree is part and parcel of that ideology."? Bernie doesn't want to kill people, but he clamors for a political system that lays waste to economies, makes everyone (except the politicians) poor, and tends to result in death, at the hands of those in power, for those who would strive to shrug off the yoke. | ||
| H0gwash |
Wasn't Gabby Giffords a lefty herself? Not sure why she shouldn't be able to defend herself from crazies. | ||
| Hootowl |
She's a dem, yes, and shot at by one of her own. Ducbsa's assertion that lefties shouldn't have guns is, I'm sure, meant as irony. The left wants to ban guns, but it is the left that tolerates and promotes violence toward its political foes, sometimes, in Gabby's case, and the shooting yesterday, with the very guns they would see banned. | ||
| Strokizator |
It's not completely inevitable that a socialist country send it's people to death camps, Sweden hasn't yet. Sweden flirted with socialism in the 70's but quickly saw how damaging it is to the economy. Sure, they have "social" programs but are far from the definition of a socialist society. | ||
| Sifo |
I disagree with your implication that even when Bernie says that violence of any kind is unacceptable and unAmerican that he actually he wants to kill all non-socialists. It's not a matter of wanting to kill them. It's that it becomes a necessary part of controlling the socialist system. | ||
| Sifo |
I find it interesting that when there is the "lone wolf" attack from a "radical Islamist", we wind up with wringing of hands trying to figure out how they became radicalized. Fairly easy to see if you choose to open your eyes to the entire history of Islam. Aside from the fact that we as a country haven't come to grips with the fact that close to 100% of events like the baseball game shooting are done by liberals, why do we not put effort into understanding how they became radicalized? Probably because it will point directly back to the liberal rhetoric that we have been seeing this past year. Well, much longer than that, but it's really been ratcheted up lately. Yes, this is a predictable escalation of what we have been seeing from the left. | ||
| S2t_bama |
I have been skeptical of the claims of left wing media bias. Today, I'm pretty convinced. Yesterday there was an attack on leadership of the majority party in congress by a left wing extremist armed with an assault rifle. He wounded multiple sitting members of congress! I turned on CNN HLN this morning and they were talking about all sorts of things from human interest stories to the apartment fire in London. They only made a brief mention of the attack on GOP congressmen! Listening to NPR for my 30 min drive to work, they briefly mentioned the fact that there was an attack by a "gunman" and that congressman Scalise would possibly be undergoing more surgeries to repair broken bones and "damaged organs." Then, on to coverage of the Russian "interference" with our elections. Unbelievable! If there had been an attack by a "right wing extremist" on democrat congressmen (or anybody for that matter), these "news" outlets would not stop digging and talking about it until Christmas! They would go into how his affiliation with "right wing hate groups" had radicalized him. There would be hand wringing about how many others like him were waiting in the wings, like ticking time bombs. There would be a parade of people calling for more police powers to investigate anything remotely conservative. There would be no end to the coverage and editorializing. But today, crickets. I guess I'd better reevaluate how I get my news, to say the least. | ||
| Hootowl |
That's a good point Tom. It would be interesting to see some coverage of how this guy became "radicalized". Wouldn't really be news though...the sources of his radicalization are readily apparent to the not-intentionally-obtuse among us. | ||
| Hootowl |
"armed with an assault rifle" Have they published the model of rifle he used? What was it? | ||
| Macbuell |
It was a Chinese version of the AK, I believe. Thank goodness the guy had no idea how to shoot a rifle. |
