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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Mark. No way he should have lost the fight.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fox reported it was an AR15...but not sure if that's been substantiated. Agree though, no way the guy should have been outgunned by a pair of pistols, regardless of their training.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/06/foghorn/ breaking-congress-baseball-shooter-used-sks-9mm-ha ndgun/
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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Multiple stories have called it an assault rifle as well. So they have started using that word. Next will come calls from the left to ban "assault rifles".
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need to keep in mind that while we are focused on the one sitting Congressman that was shot, and occasionally the few others that were also shot, some fatally, this was not likely what this idiot had in mind. He had a large group in a fenced in enclosure. Right before starting to shoot, he confirmed that this was the Republican group that he was shooting at. It's hard to believe that he had anything in mind but killing off many sitting Republican congressmen. It clearly was not a focused attack on an individual, or small group. IMO, it's clear cut domestic terrorism committed against the Republican party.

Does anyone question if we are seeing a civil war starting up? I'm just glad that so many on their side have never learned to shoot. That was a blessing in this case.
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S21125r
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was an SKS. It's not an assault rifle since it's not select fire. It's not even an assault weapon in it's standard form as it doesn't have a detachable magazine or the required number of cosmetic features that define what an assault weapon is. Its just a garden variety semi auto rifle. But to be honest defining an assault weapon based on cosmetic features was dumb on .gov's part anyway.
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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SKS wasn't even included on that Ban list that moron Dem senator put together years ago.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not scary-looking enough to be an 'assault weapon'.
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H0gwash
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be interesting to see some coverage of how this guy became "radicalized"

I'd like to see that too. It would be nice if we could tell who is about the cross the line between mentally sane enough to collect guns and mentally insane enough to justify prevention of gun ownership or whatever quick and practical means there might be of preventing terrorist like events from foreign and domestic threats. It does seem that even insane shooters know well enough to not let on what they're about to do.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Several shots fired at truck flying ‘Make America Great Again’ flag on I-465

The push back from this crap is going to get nasty...
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone question if we are seeing a civil war starting up?
It's how the last one started, only the last one was on a simpler scale.
How quickly things escalate, and get "reported" as quickly, is the gas on the fire.

IMO, it's clear cut domestic terrorism committed against the Republican party.
Truth
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2017 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/06/15/the-7-most -despicable-reactions-to-the-virginia-ballpark-sho oting/

The hate grows.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2017 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'll get ugly when the conservatives - very admirably self-restrained thus far - have enough and start shooting back.

Methinks the 2nd Amendment folks will have better aim, too. Dems should consider that...
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2017 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The Battle of Berkeley" where people fought back against the communist antifa thugs was reported as the Nazis ( us ) starting the violence.

Any fighting back against the mob is dangerous because you will always be depicted as the aggressor.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2017 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where did I say "fight"?
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He had a kill list.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/exclusive-assass ination-list-found-on-james-hodgkinsons-body/

The corrupt leftists media are driving this. They just never figured one of their own would start shooting.

Not good for them politically, thus the NY Times & CNN going full tilt liar trying to blame Republicans.

Rasmussen has Trump approval at 50%.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The latest day by day cartoon mocks the shooter for having a crowd in a fenced in area and having no kills.

Sometimes not safe for work, nudity & political content..... ( cartoon nudity. ... and well done. Sure, I'm a perv. ) this cartoon has a right wing bias. And is smart. Also nsfw.

Talked to a buddy last night who is afraid these were the first shots in the new civil war. A retired Marine, and not PC, he's sure he wouldn't have done so poorly in a target rich environment. Joking, but factual. He's a much better shot than me.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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But for all his complaining about Republicans, he had little to do with Democratic politics here.

SOURCE: New York Times




This guy, reportedly, was an outspoken Sander supporter . . but now . . no one knows him.

Odd.

I've been asking folks . . . tell me how a "gun free zone" would have improved this incident.

I'm eager to listen if someone has an opinion.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure, it works fine. All you need is a stop & frisk, door kicking total police state with no mercy or compassion.

Think the Movie "Equilibrium". ( Warning, depressing, depressing cast, and... guess what happens to Sean Bean? )
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2017 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sean dies? The hell you say!
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire: I get the dark flippancy regarding tragedy. I took the family to the JFK assassination memorial in Dallas a few years back. I had read about all the conspiracy theories, the magic bullet, the lone gunman, Russians, the mob, all of them. I won't render an opinion on how much validity there is to any of them, that's another thread. (The memorial is worth the time and touches on all of them too.)
What I will say is, I walked to the window adjacent to the one Oswald used, (the actual window is roped off, with a Carcano propped up on a box), I looked out on the street below, and thought to myself, "18- 24 inch target, 30yards, moving 10-20 mph straight away, downward angle. You don't need a second shooter. Even I could probably do 3 in 7seconds, and get 66% if I practiced my bolt technique.
I'm more skeptical of conspiracies, but I 'm always open to the possibility.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would have been 100% if the stop light hadn't soaked up one of the rounds.

It would be interesting to see some coverage of how this guy became "radicalized"
He was from Illinois. Go talk to someone from Northern Illinois.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Best we not rehash the JFK assassination. .... but : )

A conspiracy crazy at work, ex Army, owns a Carcano & plays Russian or Italian in WW2 recreation, insists the shots are impossible.

A retired Marine buddy insists he has a good chance of making the shots under those circumstances.

Oswald was an ex-marine, KGB wannabe, that the Soviets decided was a nut not worth having as a propaganda tool, much less a agent. ( or picked as an agent. No way to tell. Unless they release his file. )

Personally I could get the number of shots off. Pretty sure I could hit the car. Be pure luck to get the reported results.

Me? I go with the Red Dwarf version as likely as any. ; )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He was from Illinois. Go talk to someone from Northern Illinois.

I left Illinois so I wouldn't have to do that. Go figure, my new neighbor is from Chicago! At least he plans to go back there in the next couple of years. Also he's not the wack job that many are, but he sure isn't the typical Northern Michigan country guy.

Be pure luck to get the reported results.

You never know when that will happen. When I started sighting in my AR-15 I did a three shot group in one ragged hole at 100 yards. Miracles happen! The first shot would be at his discretion. A bit of luck on one of the two other shots is certainly withing the realm of possibilities.
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SMEGG!! I thought I was the ONLY person I knew that followed that show. The Red Dwarf one makes the most sense to me too.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, June 19, 2017 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's times when conspiracy is bogus, times when it's real, times when it's out in the open but many refuse to let conspiracy theories go anyway.

Did Bill Clinton order the baseball attack? No. Silly notion. Anyone at DNC? No. Silly. Was that an expected result of long term strategy by certain people at the DNC and others? Absolutely.

We know the black mask folk are being paid & transported to planned disturbances by Soros. Is his partner in resistance a figurehead or active? Can't tell.

Is the leader of the murderous trend the known billionaire or unknowns? Illuminati, or Zuckerberg? Alexa? : )
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://ntknetwork.com/sanders-act-in-unprecedented -ways-fight-back-in-every-way-that-you-can/

But what about calls for peaceful discourse?
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Alfau
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Searching for the Black Trump Supporter!
Speak to me. Or am I disillusioned ?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here ya go


Or am I disillusioned ?
That should be AND not OR
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2017 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yay socialism!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/06/23/venezue la-protester-shot-point-blank-range-sje-lon-orig.c nn
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The poor woman.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/25/college-profe ssor-fired-following-remarks-on-tucker-carlson-ton ight.html

When she returned to what she thought was her safe space, she was lynched, raped, and treated like an unappreciated solder returning from a war.

She valiantly donned all the mantles of victimhood she could muster, but it wasn't enough. Fight the good fight.

After being publicly lynched and blamed for her own rape, I'm not sure how she'll be able to move on, especially while being paid while on a temporary suspension. What war was she in? The article didn't mention it.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

“I thought it would be a safe place for me,” she told the paper, referring to the college. “I thought when I came home from war, I would be safe.” Instead she said she was fired.

Durden's attorney, Leslie Farber, said she believes her client's free speech rights were violated.

"It is free speech guaranteed by the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution and New Jersey law," Farber told Fox News Sunday.




As usual, the crazy liberals don't understand our rights. Sure she has the right to say something. That doesn't mean she is protected from consequences. It's not like the 2nd amendment protects you from the consequences of shooting someone. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1,000.

Sure, you can SAY whatever you want. Burn a flag. Proclaim your religion.

However...so can the people who don't share your views. And if those people happen to have power over you (i.e. your BOSS)...your actions and words will have consequences.

For too long, "free speech" has been used as a "get out jail free" card. Go ahead and say it...just don't be surprised if people get pissed off about it.

Free speech.

Common sense.

Manners.

Life isn't "a rule"...it's a delicately balanced equation.
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